HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-22-1968 Planning Commission Minutes (2) CITY OF SARATOGA PLANNING COM~MISSION '
MIN'0TES
TIME: Monday~ 22 April 1968, 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, California
TYPE: Regular Meeting
I. ROUTINE ORGANIZATION
A. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Crisp, Johnson, Lively, Metcalf, Norton and Smith.
Absent: Commissioner Kasner.
B. MINUTES
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Johnson, ·that·the .·
reading of the minutes of the 8 April 1968 meeting be waived and that
they be approved as distributed to the·Commission; motion carried unani-'\
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C, NEW CO~ISSIONER
Chairman Norton extended a welcome to newly appointed Commissioner Metcalf.
He observed that Commissioner Metcalf has been very active in City affairs
and the Planning Commission is fortunate to have him as a member.
~li. D." RESOLUTION NO. 115
Chairman Norton read Resolution No. 115 relative to the General Plan
Committee Report dated 26 February 1968 and approved by the Planning
Commission.
After discussion, Chairman Norton directed that action relative to
Resolution No. 115 be postponed until same-can be amended to include
Revision No. I (elated 8 April 1968) of the General Plan Co~ittee
Report dated 26 February ·1968.
E. CO~ffTTEE ASSIGN~,fENTS
Chairman Norton stated that in view of the proposed absence of Commissioner
Smith due to a two month trip abroad the Conmittee appointments and changes
will be as recorded below:
SUBDIVISION COr~.ilTTEE GENERAL PLAN COMMITTEE
Commissioner Crisp, Chairman Commissioner Johnson, Chairman
Co~nissioner Lively Commissioner Crisp
Con~nissioner Metcalf Commissioner Kasner
VAR!j/qCE COF~MITTEE DESIGN REVIEW CO>~iITTEE
Commissioner Crisp, Chairman Commissioner Kasner, Chairman
Conunissioner Johnson Commissioner Lively
Commissioner Lively Commissioner Metcalf
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Plannin~ Commission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
II. PUBLIC HEARINGS .
.A. C-11~ - Wayne F. Pendergraft, Calabazas Creek and Foothill Lane - Request
for Change of Zoning from "R-i-40,000" (Single Family Residential)
to "R-i-20,000" (Single ~amily Residential) - Continued from
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8 April 1968
Commissioner Smith recommended that this matter be continued to 13 May 1968.
He then stated that the Subdivision Committee met with the Planning Committee
of the City Council to review.' this matter ~nd it was the unanimous'opinion
that this matter should be discussed with the City Attorney.
In view of the foregoing, Chairman Norton directed C-111 continued to the
meeting of 13 May 1968 and the hearing relative to same was not opened.
B. ELSIE PATRICK, Prospect Road - Informal Hearing - Request to Add "Auto Parts
Store" to the List of Conditional Uses in the "C-N" (Neighbor-
hood Commercial Zoning District~ - Continued from 8 April 1968
The Secretary stated that a Notice of Hearing was published. He then read a
letter received from Mrs. Patrick asking that the subject request be postponed
to the meeting of 27 May 1968 and stated that some plans will be presented to
the Subdivision Committee prior to the 27 May 1968 meeting.
Chairman Norton directed the matter continued to the next regular meeting
and referred same back"~to..~the Subdivision Committee for further study.
C. UP-148 - West Valley United Church of Christ - Congregational Church - Request for Use Permit for Church Facilities
Chairman Norton opened the hearing relative to UP-148 at 7:47 P.M. The
-Secretary stated the Notice of Hearing had been mailed and then read
communications filed in opposition to the proposed application and received
from the following:z
~. 1. Dr. Donald H. and Shirley J. Hambey
2. Walter J. and Marion Metzger
3. Robert C. Jones
Chairman Norton explained that this application does not involve a Change
· of Zoning since churches can be located in residential areas under a Condi-
tional Use Permit.
Mr. Warren Held, applicant's architect, explained that 1) the church would
be developed on a three acre parcel on Quito Road 2) the building and park-
ing lot will be located on the level portion of the property 3) the appli-
cant applied for a Conditional Use Permit in 1966 for a site on the corner of
Martha and Quito Road and were granted approval by the Planning Commission,
but after review by the Church Board in New York it was found that this site
was not appropriate because of other churches located in the nearby areas;
therefore, the Board suggested that another site be obtained.4) the exhibit
submitted shows the main sanctuary with a capacity for two-hundred-and-fifty
people; a Sunday School wing which will acc~u~,Odate~.'a study, library, and
fellowship hall 5) the plan, also, shows the wings located around a central
court 6) the parking lot will not be visible from Quito Road and will include
two exits - one at the creek and the other further up 7) the map shows
one-hundred-and-fourteen parking spaces.which allows for two-hundred-and
seventy-five seats in the sanctuary 8) Sunday School will be held only on
Sunday with no day school classes on week days.; h~wever there will be fellow-
ship classes during the week 9) the structure will be low and the idea is to
establish a country-type church 10) a City such as SaraTOga, with the excellent
residential areas, should have churches of all~denominations and sizes and 11) he
has yet to see a church down-grade a neighborhood;' usually the presence of a
church up-grades an area.
Commissioner Crisp indicated that a topography mapswould be helpful in making
a thorough examination of this request.
Planning Cormnission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
II. C. UP-148 - Continued
Reverend Donald F. Blanchette, Minister of the West Valley United Church
of Christ, asked for a show of hands of people present who were opposed
and those in favor of the subject request. He then stated that 1) he has
called on people in the area and found that a desire exists here for a
special kind of religious need which can be filled by the United Church of"
Christ 2) they are not planning to build a mammoth cathedral, but simply
a quiet, rustic, rural-community church that will serve the religious need
of some two-hundred families 3) the church does not want to cause a big
fight since there is enough fighting in the world already 4) for the next
three weeks he will be in the area making calls in the homes and he hoped
the people will open their doors to talk with him 5) some brochures have
been placed in the lobby telling about the church and 6) he would be avail-
able for questions in the lobby.
Commissioner Lively suggested a clearer picture of the proposed grading
relative to the subject application be presented.
Mr. LeRoy Broun, 18584 Vessing Road, stated he was on the Board of the
Congregational Church in Fremont before moving here; therefore, has no
prejudice against the church. He further stated he was not in favor of the
sitehowever since he felt it was unsuitable for a church of any kind and
then presented a petition with forty.signatures opposing said request.
Mr. William B. Krause, 18564 Vessing Court, stated that 1) his living room
is not more than one-hundred-and twenty-five feet from the proposed church
2) when he bought his home he did. not expect this type of encroachment on
his privacy for which he paid.~a f'~lot~-~of money 3) he is a retired naval
officerand does not make a great deal of money working at Lockheed 4) the
taxes on his $62,000 home will not be reduced even though the proposed church
would cause his property to decrease in value 5) the church will not be pay-
ing taxes on the three acres it is proposing to develop 6) he felt the property
available,to the church is not adequate and 7) the church will eventually
out-grow this property and thereby create crowding or require the purchase of
additional property in the area.
The Secretary, in answer to an inquiry from Chairman Norton, stated that
Quito Road, south of Pollard, will not be widened within the next ten years.
Captain Donald E. McKenzie, 18680 Vessing Road, stated that 1) Quito Road
would not be widened for quite some time and the church would create traffic'
problems along this narrow road and 2) many people in this area live abQ~e
the property owned by the church and with sound traveling upward the church
would cause quite a disturbance to these people.
Mr. Robert C. Jones, 14651Quito Road, stated that he was opposed to the
subject request because of the traffic that will be generated by same.
Reverend Vern Henderson, 1289 29th Avenue, San Mateo, California, stated that
1) he was a member of the State Board that decided the site at Martha and
Quito was unsuitable 2) he was a member of the National Advisory Committee
3) the proposed'church is just beginning to make an appearance in this area
4) geographically this is a good location for a church 5) he..felt the
arguments presented by the nearby residents seemed to be rather selfish
6) .he hoped the New York Board and State Board were not wrong in acquiring
this property and 7) he trusted the Planning Commission would vote favorably
for UP-148.
Planning Commission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
II. C. UP-148 - Continued
Mrs. Reis,= 18545 Vessing Road, stated that 1) she lived above this site
and goes to sleep every night listening to tires screeching on the road
below 2) the additional traffic that would be caused by the proposed
church would be extremely dangerous 3) she has witnessed several bad
... traffic accidents in this area 4) she agreed a church is needed in the
community as it is in every community and 5) her family tak~a drive
into the village of Saratoga, which is only a few minutes away., to attend
church services.
Dr. Hoffman, 18579 Vessing Road, stated that 1) he concurred with all the
statements mentioned by his neighbors 2) a short drive will take him and
his family to the existing churches in Saratoga 3) he did not understand
why the site at Martha and Quito, which was approved by the Planning o.
Commission, was not used.4) if it is going to be in the neighborhood
then it should be left up to the people living in the area whether a Use
Permit is granted and.5) the church will generate additional traffic
and along with 'the proposed Stepovich subdivision a thoroughfare type
of street will be the result.
Chairman Norton explained that the City cannot delegate the authority to
determine the approval of a Use Permit to small private groups,
Mrs. Christensen, 18510 Sobey Road, stated that 1) she was a member of
the Congregational Church, but not this particular one 2) another site
for this church was turned down by the Planning Commission due to traffic
problems and 3) she felt this site would cause worse problems and suggested ""~
the request be denied.
Mrs. Anna Mae Krause, 18564 Vessing Court, stated that 1) she would like to
talk with the minister who indicated theX were a selfish community 2) she
talked to her minister and he had told h~"churcheS are big business and you
have to protect your residence" and 3) her doors will be open to the representa-
tive of the church to discuss the matter,
Mrs. Millie Bernstein, resident of the area, stated.that 1) it is her feeling
that the Planning Commission has a responsibility to the communitylto utilize
the little vacant land left to. the best interest of the entire community 2) she
felt putting a church on this site would not be utilizing it'to the.best interest
of all especially since there are some sites which would be more appropriate
and 3) the Planning Commission should visit the site for an ins e i '\ '
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Mr. Scott Smith, 14751Quito Road, stated that 1) the people present to
support the church did not live in the immediate neighborhood and 2) he
did not think the people who live. in the neighborhood would change their
faith.
Miss Cheryl Hambey, 18600 Vessing Road, stated she would like to know why the
church site at Martha and Quito Road was turned down by the Church Board.
Reverend Henderson stated 1) he was a member of the Board of Churches which
represented different faiths and reviewed all proposed construction of new
churches 2) the Martha-Quito location was an-area that already had two churches
within a one-half mile radius and 3) the lady who secured the subject property
for the church is present and has indicated that this is about the last site
available in the area that would be suitable for a church.
Chairman Norton, in answer to an inquiry from Mr. Reis, explained that the
church has provided for more parking on their map than would be required
by the Zoning Ordinance.
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PlanninS Conm~ission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
.II. C. UP-148 - Continued
Miss Alita Young, member of the Youth Group from the Congregational Church,
wondered why nothing has been done about the traffic situation in this area.
Mrs. Elkington, realtor that located the site for the church, stated that
she!is interested in knowing the location of all the available property
mentioned by several people.
· ' Mr. Metzger, 18540 Vessing Road, stated that Vessing Road narrows down to
a one-car width and if the church goes in the residents will not even be
able to get out while services are being held.
Mr. Warren Held advised that 1) this is intended to be a two-year program
2) it is a. permitted use with a Use Permit and'3) the church may triple
its present membership of fifty people.
}~s~ Elkington stated that 1) they have looked very hard and have not been
able to locate another site and 2) maybe one bit of good will come of this
and that will be that Quito Road will be widened now instead Of ten years
from now.
The residents of the area unanimously stated they were not interested in
getting Quito Road widened at this time.
Mrs. Blanchette, wife of Reverend Blanchette, stated 1) the church has been
trying for a year-and-a-half to find a suitable location and 2) she felt it
is heartbreaking to see people put the value of property above ideals.
Jeff Smith, member of the Church Youth Group, stated 1) his group was look-
ing for new members and 2) at present their main goal is to establish
permanent location.
After discussion, Chairman Norton (8:50 P~M.)'closed the hearing for the
evening, referred UP- 148 to the Subdivision Committee and continued same
to the next regular meeting.
Commissioner Crisp, 0n'·behalf.··.Of.·.t~e Subdivision Committee, arranged for
a meeting on Saturday, 4 May 1968 'at 9:00'~.M. with ·the representatives of
the church.
III. BUILDING SITES AND SUBDIVISIONS
A. SDR-732 - Franklin Homes Company, Fourth Street and Saratoga Creek -
Buildin~ Site Approval - 1 Lot - Continued from 8 April 1968
Commissioner Smith stated that the applicant submitted a letter of extension
and recommended that SDR-732 be continued to the next regular meeting. .
Chairman Norton so directed.
B. SDR-740 - S. L. Tyler and G. S. Kocher, Fourth Street~'-'Building Site
Approval - 1 Lot - Continued from 8 April 1968 "
Commissioner Smith stated that a letter of extension was received from
the applicant and then recommended that SDR-740 be continued to allow
further time to..work out problems with Flood'.Control.
Chairman Norton so directed.
Planning Connnission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
III. C. SDR-744 - Neil Kirkham, SobeyRoad - BuildinS Site Approval - 1 Lot
The Secretary read a petition received from residents of the Vessing.~
Road area (21 signatures) stating they object to the use of Vessing
Road for ingress and egress for this building site and the proposed
Stepovich subdivision.
Chairman Norton explained that 1) in most instances the subdivider
is.required to improve the road and 2) the subdivider is required
by the Subdivision Ordinance to provide..two'-mean~ of,.access.
Mrs. Reis stated she'preferred to see Vessing Road remain a dead-end
street.
The Secretary explained that the Stepovich subdivision does not have
access to Vessing Road but will be able to get access across the Kirkham
property.
Chairman Norton advised that anyone wishing to discuss this matter with
the Subdivision Committee could call Mr. Walker, Planning Commission
Secretary, to set up an appointment.
Commissioner Crisp advised that the Subdivision Committee planned to
meet to review SDR-744 and SD-746 on Saturday, 4 May 1968 at 10:00 A.M.
Chairman Norton directed that 'all matters discussed relative to SDR-744
be applied to SD-746 as well.
Captain McKenzie, 18680 Vessing Road, stated that his job at Boeing Air-
craft dealt entirely with traffic safety and if additional traffic is
routed over Vessing - numerous deaths will occur.
Commissioner Crisp stated that the Subdivision Committee will visit the
site of an on-site inspection along with the Public Works Director.
After discussion, Chairman Norton directed this matter continued to the
next regular meeting and referred same to the Subdivision Committee for
study.
D. SDR-745 - Jens Hunseid~ E1Camino Grande - BuildinS Site Approval - 1 Lot
Commissioner Smith explained that a portion of this property has already
been approved by ~he Planning Commission. The Secretary stated that all
the proposed .conditions of approval stated in the Building Site Committee
Report of 22 April 1968--hav~..a!~dy been met.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Crisp, that the
Building Site Committee Report of 22 April 1968 relative to SDR-745
be adopted and that the tentative map (Exhibit "A", filed 10 April 1968)
be approved subject to the conditions set forth in said report; motion
carried unanimously.
E. SD-746 - Dr. Michael L. Stepovich, Sobey Road - Subdivision Approval -
21 Lots'
See SDR-744 for'discussion relative to this matter.
Chairman Norton directed this matter continued to the next regular meeting.
and referred same to the Subdivision Committee for study.
PlanninS Commission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
IV. A. A-275 --Atlantic Richfield 'Company, Cox Avenue and Paseo Presada - '
Final Design Review - Identification Sign - Continued from
8 April 1968
Commissioner Smith stated that the Design Review Committee met with the
applicant and discussed this application.
The Assistant Planner read the Staff Report dated 22 April 1968 reconunending
that Final Design Review be granted for A-275.
Chairman Norton directed that the subject report. be amended as follows:
paragraph 1. .'.line 6. .add. ."all letters of which are to be
twelve inches high;". .between the words sign and and.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner L~vely, to adopt,'.as amended,
Staff Report of 22 April 1968 recommending that Final Design Review be
granted A-275 as shown on Exhibits "B", "C", and "D" and subject to the condition~'~
stated in said report; motion carried unanimously.
B. A-280 - Cable Car Restaurant, Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road - Final Design Review -
Identification SiSn - Continued from 8 April 1968
Commissioner Smith stated that the Design Review Committee met to review this
application and agreed that all temporary sign should be removed.i
The Assistant Planner read the Staff Report dated 22 April 1968 recommending
that Final Design Review be granted for the Cable Car Restaurant. Identification
Sign.
Chairman Norton directed that the subject report be amended as follows:
Condition b). .Under paragraph 2. .be changed to read.
"b) All temporary signs, flags, sandwich boards, and
including the. smal~ sign painted on front (facade)
of cable car, be completely eliminated."
After discussion, Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Lively,
to adopt, as amended, the Staff Report of 22 April 1968 recommending that'
Final Design be granted A-280 as shown on Exhibits "A" and "B" and subject
to the conditions stated in said report; ~.motion carried unanimously.
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V~. CITY COUNCIL REPORT
Commissioner Crisp gave a brief summary of items reviewed at the City' Council
meeting of 17 April. 1968. He then stated that one item of special interest was
the appointment of Adm. Ralph M. Metcalf to the Planning Commission.
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Chairman Norton stated that Commissioner Lively volunteered to go to the City
Council meeting originally.scheduled for attendance by Commissioner McFall who
has retired. ""'~ ........r---. ...... ............
VI. OLD BUSINESS
C-86 - Neil K. Chase, SaratoSa Avenue - Request for Extension
The Secretary stated that the applicant submitted at the 8 April 1968 meeting a
letter requesting an extension of ten days in order to allow time to submit the
necessary information requested by the Planning Commission.
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P~anning Commission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
VI. A. C-86 - Continued
The Secretary further stated that 1) .the applicant has now submitted a
revised letter requesting a one-year extension from the..origina! date of
expiration (10 April 1968) subject to submittal of new plans within'sixty
days from 10 April 1968 and 2) the Subdivision Committee met with the new
prospective buyer of this property to discuss development plans.
Commissioner Smith, in answer to an inquiry from Chairman Norton, stated t~at
there is really no good use other than the one proposed that can be made of. \
this property.
Mr. Shannon Lightfoot, realtor, in answer to an inquiry from Chairman Norton,
stated that the new buyer has sound financial backing and should be able to
produce some workable plans in the near future.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Lively, that the 22 January
1968 report relative to C-86.be amended to show an expiration date of 10 June
1968 and a Condition (3) be added as follows:
"3) Subject to submittal'of acceptable plan by 10 June
1968 by the applicant or his representative an
extension of ten additional months will be granted; :
thereby, making the expiration date 10 April 1969 "
and that such recommendation be forwarded to the City Council as the action
of the Planning Commission; motion carried unanimously.
B. GENERAL P[~N COMMITTEE'REPORT- PZ: CO~DZNTS'REQUESTED IN REGARD TO PARK
PROPOSALS AN~ HERRIMAN AVERrUE EXTENSION
Commissioner Johnson (after reading communications received from Mr. J. R.
Huff, City Administrator and ~. Larry Livingston, Jr., Planning Consultant)
read the General.Plan Committee Report of 22 April 1968 stating their recommend+--
ations relative to parks and the Herriman Avenue Extension.
After discussion, Commissioner Johnson moved, seconded by Commissioner Smith,
that the General Plan Committee Report dated 22 April 1968 be adopted and
forwarded to the City Council as the recommendation of the Planning Commission;
motion carried with Commissioner Metcalf abstaining.
C. POLLARD ROAD AN~ QUITO ROAD - Removal of Trees by Flood Control
The Secretary, in answer to an inquiry from Commissioner Lively, explained
that the City Officials met with the Flood Control Officials to discuss a
system by which the City of Saratoga will be informed, in advance, of any
tree removal anticipated by the Flood Control Department. ·
VII. NEW BUSINESS
NONE
VIII. CO~t~f~IC~TIONS
A. WRITTEN
1. CI~f OF C~BELL GENERAL PLAN REPORT
The Secretary stated that a letter with a copy of the Campbell General
Plan was recieved from the City of Campbell. He further stated that
the letter requested that any comments or suggestions the Saratoga Planning
Commissi6n may have be forwarded to them.
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Planning Cornmiss.ion Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
VIII. A. 1. CAbSBELL GENEiAL PLAN - CONTINUED
Chairman Norton referred the matter to the General Plan· Committee
-and directed that copies of the letter and the attached General
.Plan be made available to the Con~mittee. \'
2. FENCE AT THE CORNER OF bZLLON AND SARATOGA AVENUE
The Secretary read a letter received from ~. &Mrs. Pav!ovic, Jr.
expressing their concern over five-to-six-foot front yard Wall fences
and then read a copy of a letter to Mr. & Mrs. Pavlovic from the Mayor
informing them that they could contact the Planning Department relative
to any problems resulting from subject fences.
The Secretary, in answer t~ an inquiry from Chairman Norton, advised
that 1) the Zoning Ordinance permits six-foot front yard fences except.
close to intersections and 2) most deed restriction do not allow front
yard fences.
Mr. Norman Martin, Vice President of the Prides Crossing Homeowner~s
Associatio~ stated that 1) it is quite costly for one homeowner to
enforce deed restrictions on another homeowner.
After discussion, Chairman Norton referred the matter to the Subdivision
Committee for study.
3. KING DODO PLAYERS - RequestF0r Extension
The Secretary read a letter submitted by Joleen Holm, on behalf
of the King Dodo Players, requesting a one year extension for their
indoor theater.
After discussion, Chairman Norton directed the matter continued to the
next regular meeting and referred same to the SubdiViSion Committee for
study and a report.
B. ORAL
A-282 - Rocke Garcia, Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road - Final Design Reivew -
Identification Sign
}',~. Rocke Garcia stated that 1) he will be opening a liquor store on
Saratoga-Sunn)~ale Road between the Cable Car Restaurant and the Speedee;·!
Mart 2) he ordered the sign for the liquor store prior to filing for the
sign permit 3) he has now submitted, for review, exhibits showing the
proposed sign and 4) he would appreciate the Planning Commission approving
the subject sign at this meeting.
Chairman Norton then read the Staff Report dated 22 April 1968 recommending
that Final Design Review be .granted for the prOpoSed identification sign.
After discussion, Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Lively,
that the Staff Report dated 22 April 1968 relative to A-282 be adopted and
and Final Design Review be granted for the sign as shown on Exhibits "A",
"B'~ and "C" and subject to the conditions stated in said report; motion
carr led unanimous ly.
GUESTS
Chairman Norton acknowledged, with pleasure, the presence of Councilman
Smith, I/~s. Ottenberg of the League of Women Voters, ~s. Arlene Wilberding
and F~c. Ted Lyons of the Good Government Group, and Mr. Norman Martin, Vice
President of the Prides Crossing Homeowners Association. He, also, thanked
Mrs. Wilberding for the coffee served at recess.
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Planning Commission Minutes - 22 April 1968 - Continued
VIII. B. ORAL - CONTINUED.
Chairman Norton, on behalf of the entire Commission, bid
Comnissioner Smith Bon Voyage since he is leaving for a
two month tour of Europe.
IX. ADJOUR~ZNT
The Chairman declared the meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M.
Saratoga Planning Con~nission
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