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TIME: Tuesday, October 23, 1973 - 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: Saratoga City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, SaratOga, California
TYPE: Regular Meeting
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I. ROUTINE ORGANIZATION
A. ROLL CALL
Present:Commissioners Belanger, Lively, Marshall, Martin, Matteoni,
and Smith.
Absent: Commissioner Woodward.
B. MINUTES
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, that the
reading of the minutes of the O~tober 10, 1973 meeting be waived and
that they be approved as distributed to the Commission with the following
changes: page 2.. .under V-397.. .paragraph 1o . .line 1. .insert
the word "public" between the words "the" and "hearing"; page 5. . .under
SDR-1080. .paragraph 2. .line 1. .insert the word~"the" between the
words "that" and "tree"; page 12... .paragraph 2. .line 1. . .insert
the words "by the" between the words "action" and "College"; page 15. . .
paragraph 1. .line 2. .change,P.M. to A.M.; motion carried unanimously.
C. CITY COUNCIL REPORT
Commissioner B~langer submitted a!written review of the action and
discussion that took place at the'Council meeting of October 17, 1973
relative to items ot~7. interest to the Planning Commission.
II. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A0 Proposed Amendment to Zoning Ordinance NS-3, Article 3 - Regulating
Two-Story Residences in New Subdivisions - Continued
from October 10~ 1973
Chairman Lively. reopened the hearing at 7:47 P.M. The Secretary stated
that a new draft of this ordinance amendment is now available for review.
He then read a written comment received from the Santa Clara-Santa Cruz
Counties Home Builders Association requesting that this matter be continued
to the next regular meeting.
Mr. Herman Rains, iExecutive Assistant of the Home Buiiders.Association, ~
and stated that if the matter is continued he would withhold his remarks
until he made an appointment to meet with the appropriate Committee.
Commissioner Marshall stated he '~i'd'~0'f'~H~r'~'~6w the Builders Association
relates to what the City does in regulation of two-story structures since we
'are~.talkihg.~.~ about what people living in the houses adjacent to two-story
houses have to put up with. He would suggest the Builders Association
presentation be made sooner rather than waiting until a later time, because
the regulation of two-story homes should proceed as rapidly as possible.
Is a two-story defined as a structure the second story of which is that
portion included between the upper surface of the ground floor and the
ceiling or roof above that or in laymen's languag~ between the plate
and the rafters? Is that desfgned to exclude split level homes? How
would a split level home be included as-a two-story within this categorization
since the mid-story per?se would not be that portion between the upper
surface of the ground floor and the ceiling or roof above? It would be
adjacent to but not necessarily included within.
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Planning Commission Minutes - October 23~ 1973 - Continued
II. A. PropoSed Amendment - Continued
· The Secretary stated that the City Attorney did wan~ to review
that definition with the Planning Commission in Order to resolve
that difference.
Commissioner Marshall stated that if.the intention is to include
pure two-story (one story directly above the other) ~nd possibly
split level then it would seem that some other language should be
in reference to multiple elevations above the finished floor of
the first floor and yet exclude a basement. Could it not, for
example, depending upon whether we wished to include split levels
or only two-stories, define a two-story building as one inf:which
the first floor is defined as base and subsequent floors are
elevated at least one-half living level above that base or one
total livingslevel above that base.
Commissioner Marshall, in answer to a statement made by Commissioner
Martin, advised that while the principle endeavors have been away
from having two-story homes which do not fit into a level landsarea -
there are subdivision areas in the City where two-story homes are the
only proper solution to the' lay of theftand.
The Secretary, in answer to' an inquiry from Chairman Lively,. stated
that the City Attorney has not had time to present an input on
this portion (Section 1 ) of the Ordinance and the matter should not
be granted more than one additional continuance since 'it is necessary
to take some action in connection with this propps~d amendment.
Commissioner Matteoni stated he is still not sure about the question
of multi-elevations in hillside areas~ Maybe~tjat should be defined
in another category.~ ~
Commissioner Marshall stated that he is suggesting that this be done
and if that is incorporated into the ordinanc~ a limitation which
says that this ordinance applies to developments on slopes of less
than "X" percent if the average slope is greater than 20 percent.
Commissioner Matteoni agreed and stated that a preamble be added to
the Ordinance explaining what we are attempting to do by adopting
this Ordinance, i.e., protect privacy of neighboring property Owners,
and limit interference of views, etc. Commissioner Matteoni ~heni:.~:.'
commented on Chairman Lively's suggestion that the building of a
two-story houses on a single building-site might damage neighboring
houses. This matter needs some attention from the City Attorney since
some definite specifics are'necessary as to what type of damage we are
talking about~ His concern is primarily that the Ordinance be more
definitive.
Commissioner Martin agreed that Section 1 of the proposed Ordinance
should be more clearly defined since he was, also, concerned it was
not explicit enough. He could see where a second story-could be
built over a garage and not go over the maximum height of thi~.t_X_yi~i~
feet since the definition of height is that distance measured~between'j
the plate and roof. That definition has to be very!.well '~tated. He
can recall where two-story ~esidences were backed to two (2) or three
(3) lots. The neighbors should be considered and informed when a
one-story residence is proposed for conversion into a two-story or
when an accessory structure is proposed.
Commissioner Smith noted that this could be covered by a Use Permit
which would require a publid hearing.
Commissioner Belanger stated there should be some notification to
the neighbors of proposed two-story conversions, but, maybe, this
does not necessarily have to be done by Use Permit application.
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Planning Commission Minutes - October 23~ 1973 - Continued
II A. Proposed Amendment - Continued
Perhaps the Planning DirectOr could receive application for proposed
two-story structures and then make the neighbors aware that such a
proposal was submitted and an appeal process could,be initiated in ca~e
the decision of the Planning Director is not acceptable to th~ appli-
cant.
The Secretary, in answer to an inquiry from Commissioner Belanger,
stated that in a subdivision of five (5) or more lots the builder
is allowed up to 50% two-stQry in the development.
Commissioner Belanger stated that, perhaps, some implication should
be included that the Planning Commission has the right to decide that
a percentage of less than 50% is allowable. Some builders are assuming
they have the right to the 50%.
Commissioner Marshall stated he did agree with Commissioner Belanger
that in some cases, depending upon the nature of the tract and size,
a 50% two-story construction would be highly.desirable. It may be
that in certain instances you would not want 50% you may want a 100%.
The Secretary explained that 50% would be the maximum in a flat.-
land subdivision.
Commissioner Marshall stated that, maybe, anything'tb'_which slope
density applies should be exempted from the proposed Ordinance.
The Secretary stated that it is proposed that Design Review ApproVal
be required for all hillside lots and the City Attorney will coordinate
that into the Ordinance amendment.
Commissioner Belanger Stated that-she would recommend that in
Section (e) of the proposed Ordinance the % of site coverage should
be scaled down.
Commissioner Matteoni state~ that there was some suggestion before
to work out the old % in terms of coverage. People do build second
story additions over garages - maybe the way to pull down the square-
footage is to exclude the area over the garage.
Commissioner Marshall stated he.keeps getting the feeling someone
will find a way to build a big house on a small lot and it can be
a s~ngf~!story. By the same token someone may try for the most
house for the money available. Someone may try to build a house
that is not in proportion tO the lot. Anyone desiring a house larger
than what is allowed on a certain lot should not come looking for a
Variance, but should instead look for a larger lot to build on.
Commissioner Matteoni stated that the Ordinance as written does not
spell that out.
Chairman Lively closed the public hearing for the evening at 8:14 P.M.,
directed the proposed Ordinance amendment continued to the next regular
meeting and referred same to the Subdivision Cofm~Littee and Staff.
B. Proposed Amendment to Subdivision Ordinance NS-5, Section 10 - Regulations
for Hillside Combining Zoning Districts - Continuedl
Chairman Lively reopened the hearing at 8:15 P.M. The Secretary
explained that the proposed amendment to Ordinance NS-5 relating
to HillSide Developments is available. It was the opinion of the
City Attorney that rather than come up with any new regulations in
the form. of Subdivision Ordinance Slope Density ~Resolution~ it"~would
be best to have Design Review Approval for hillside developments and
put that into resolution form; therefore, that draft is now ready
for approval by the Planning Commission and for forwarding to the
City Council.
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Planning CommissiOn Minutes - October 23~ 1973 - Continued
II. B. Proposed Amendment - Continued
Commissioner Belanger noted that at the time the Planning Commission
was looking at the Painless Parker Randh one of the problems involved
was taking a very large area and averaging out the flat land with the
steep land and coming up with more generous slope-density allowance
than if individual parcels had been considered. Does the proposed
Ordinance speak to that kind of situation?
The Secretary explained that this situation was reviewed and in
the case of the Painless Parker Ranch where the land is very steep
the developer is proposing to utilize the flatter portion of the
property for homes.
Commissioner Marshall noted that if a developer kept acquiring land
in order to bring the average of any grade down the net result would
be.to allow the developer to build houses on land which wasn't really
designed for that purpose.
Chairman Lively stated that the intent of the proposed Ordinance is to
determine the average slope of the parcel to be built on and not to
encourage slope averaging by adding additional land.
The Secretary, in answer to an inquiry from Commissioner Smith,
stated that this ordinance would not affect existing individual
lots since they would becom~ legal non-conforming sites, but these
lots would still be subject to site development approval and/or
Design Review Approval.
Commissioner Matteoni asked if this Ordinance would set down how
far the contour lines have to be set apart - it seems that the
greater the detail the greater the application of formula.
The Secretary ansWered~'_th~t'iLthe subject of contour lines'is covered
in the Subdivision Ordinance NS-3~
Commissioner Marshall stated he is.interested in how actual computation
of the figures in the Ordinance would apply to an actual development.
The Secretary explained that some hypothetical cases could be computed
to reflect what would happen if the figures in the Ordinance were .imposed
on a proposed development.r
Chairman Lively closed the public hearing for the evening at 8:29 P.M.,
directed the proposed Ordinance amendment continued to the next regular
and referred same to the Subdivision Committee and Staff.
C. V-397 - Terence P. Woods, Old Oak Way - Request for Variance to Allow
a Reduction in Front Yard Setback Requirements - Continued from
October l0t 1973 :
Chairman Lively reopened the public hearing at 8:30 P.M. The Secretary
explained that the applicant and his architect were present. A meeting
was held with the applicant, his architect, the Design Review CoLLmmLittee
and the Variance Committee to further review this site.
Commissioner Martin stated that, after meeting with the Design Review
COmmittee, it was the feeling that some Variance wbutd be required for
V-397, but the applicant would have to come up with a design to minimize
the amount of Variance.
Commissioner Belanger stated that as Chairman of the Design Review
Committee she did request the applicant to submit a revised .plan for
review by the Committee before a recommendation could be made. '
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II. C. V-397 - Continued
Mr. Wood, the applicant, stated that his architect did submit the
plans as requested. ~
Mr. Woessner, applicant's architect, stated that the revised plans
reflecting the changes requested were submitted.
Commissioner Matteoni stated that since the plans have been submitted
they could be reviewed at the recess and a recommendation made this
evening.
Cormnissioner Belanger agreed this would be appropriate if a report
from both the Variance Committee and .Design Review Committee can be
Coordinated during the recess.."'. '.--'.l.~"':... " '~...'.'.'
Chairman Lively temporarily closed the hearing at 8:36 P.M. and
referred the.matter to the Design Review Committee and Variance
Committee for review during the recess.
The matter of V-397 was reviewed at the recess;~.'h0wever, the matter will be
concluded here for the sake of continuity.
Chairman Lively reopened the hearing at 9:55 PT.~M.
Commissioner Martin explained that the revised plans do reflect
changes in the setbacks, this is a difficult lot and the Variance
Committee and Design Review Committee agree that some type of
Variance is needed. The architect has done a good job in redesign-
ingi~the plans.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall to
close the public hearing relative to V-397 at 10:05 P.M.; motion
carried unanimously.
Commissioner Martin moved, seconded by Commissioner Matteoni, that
the subject request for Variance in connection with V-397 be granted
as shown on E~hibits "X" and "Y" since the findings required under
Section 17.6 of Zoning Ordinance NS-3 can be made. This approval shall
constitute Design Review Approval as well and.written reports are
to be prepared byvth~-Sedr~tary=~nd'i~placed in the appropriate file;
motion carried unanimously ·
D. UP-227 - Luceal Fitzpatrick, Sousa Lane - Request for Use Permit to
Allow a Residential Care Unit - Continued from October 10~ 1973
Chairman Lively reopened th~ hearing relative to UP-227 at 8:36 P.M.
Commissioner Smith stated that the Subdivision Committee did meet
with the applicant and the final presentation made at that time
relative to the use of the building and site coverage was satisfactory
to the Committee.
Chairman Lively noted that the Staff Report dated October 23, 1973
relative to UP-227 recommends approval of the proposed Use Permit.
Commissioner Smith recommended that the subject report be amended
by deleting the words "for a period of one (1) year" from the last
sentence in paragraph 1.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, that
the public hearing in connection with UP-227 be closed at 8:40 P.M.;
motion carried unanimously..
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, that the
Staff Report dated October 23, 1973 relative to UP-227 be. adopted, as
amended, and the' subject.request for Use Permit to allow a six (6) unit
residential-care home be approved as shown on Exhibit "A" subject to the
conditions stated in said report; motion carried unanimously.
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Planning Commission Minutes - October 23~ 1973 - Continued
II. E. C-171 - Mel DeSelle, Fifth Street - Request for Change of ZOning
from "R-M-3,000" (Multi-Family Residential) to "C-C"
(Community-Commercial)
Chairman Lively opened the public hearing relative to C-171 at
8:42 P.M. The Secretary stated the Notice of Hearing was mailed
and published and the appl{cant is requesting a Change of Zoning
from "R-M" to "C-C" for the two°'0~'~'acre parcel which abuts the
e~i~fn~"~'C" zone on Fifth Street. Tenants woul~ participate in
~ ~ any Par"f~ih~'D'i~tr~et formed'in that area.
iCommissioner Smith suggested that, perhaps, the Planning Commission
should consider for review a similar block of property at ·the other
end of Eourth Street~ Rather·than just consider the one currgntly
under consideration,
Commissioner Marshall asked if it is the intention to develop on
Big Basin Way and have a c6rridor parking strip and development
at the rear of the parking strip or is the intention to build to
the front and use the expansion as the parking area?
The gecretary explained that the intent is to build at the
front portion 'of the lot. He then read a Statement of Reason
filed by the applicant and a correspondence flied by Mr. David
Morrison of 19590 Juha Lane in opposition to the proposed Change
of Zoning.
Mr. Larry Tyler stated that this proposed Change of Zoning request
would be in compliance with the parking district which was adopted
several years ago, but not approved by the people in the district.
The Secretary explained that those plans are available for review
and consideration.
Commissioner Martin stated he would like to see some combination
plans of the T & F Development and the DeSelle properties bef6re
· making a decision.
Commissioner Belanger inquired if Mr. Tyler and Mr. DeSelle had
discussed the possibility of coordinating the development of the
two (2) adjacent properties.
Mr. Tyler explained that yes they had and as a m~tter of fact the
proposed Change of Zoning is a result of those discussions.
Chairman Lively closed the hearing for the evening at 8:52 P.M.,
directed the matter continued to the next regular meeting and
referred C-171 to the Subdivision Committee and Staff for further
study and review.
III. BUILDING SITES AND SUBDIVISIONS
A. SDR-1075 - T & F Development, Big Basin Way and Fourth Street -
Buildins Site Approval - 1 Lot - Continued from October 10~ 1973
The Secretary explained that this· is, also, a proposed development for
the Village Area and is located at Fourth Street and Big Basin Way.
Commissioner Marshall explained that this developer proposes to
develop somthing like 40% or more of the remaining portion of the
Village on the south side of Big Basin Wayl There are already three
(3) interwoven developments in the Village and this would be the
fourth and in addition there is the parking district. His concern
is that the Planning Commission does not get too carried-away before
it is seen how all these developments merge together.
The Secretary explained that building-site approval does not constitute
approval of any parking plan. The Design Review Committee would speak
to the parking plan and ·coordination with the parking district itself.
Commissioner Marshall stated that another matter that must be considered
along with this is the abandonment of Fourth Street. The impact of all
these items should be~considered~in total rather .~han individually.
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III. A. SDR-1075 - Continued
The Secretary explained that the abandonment of Fourth Street
.does not directly affect this property nor does it really affect
the parking district itself.
.~Chai.rman Lively noted that' the Village Plan has not been shown
on the General Plan and he would like the Planning Consultant's
recormnendation on this~ matter.
Commissioner Marshall stated that an effort should be made by the
developers of these properties for an integrated plan where everybody
is in lockstep as to what. the City will wind up with in all respects.
Commissioner Smith stated-that the parking-district situation is
one that the Planning Commission should know something more about
before going ahead with an~ of these individual applications, because
if it takes as long to get this parking district through as it did
the other one it will be four (4) or five (5) years from now before
anything is settled.
The Secretary explained that actually the plan that this developer
proposes and in the case of the other properties that are in the
parking district are in accord with the parking plan that was
developed over the years and they do fit into that plan.
Mr. Tyler explained that Mr. IrOnside, Planning Consultant for
the City, is acquainted with those plans.
Chairman Lively suggested that the matter be continued to allow
time for further study.
The Secretary explained that a written extension from the applicant
is necessary before this matter can be continued.
Mr. Tyler stated he will supply a written extension prior to
November 1,' 1973.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall,
to deny the request for Building Site Approval.for SDR-1075
unless a let. ter of extension is received from the applicant prior
to the expiration date of November 1, 1975; motion carried unanimously.
B. SDR-1076 - Almaden Development, Big Basin Way and/Fourth Street -
Building Site Approval - 1 Lot - Continued from October 10,
1973
The Secretary stated that in light of the action taken on SDR-1075
he would recommend a continued from SDR-1076 subject to receipt of
a letter of ext~nsi6n:from the applicant.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, to deny
the request for Building Si'te Approval for SDR-1076 unless a letter
of extension is received from the applicant prior to the expiration
date of November 1, 1975; motion carried unanimously.
C. SDR-1079 - Southland Corporation (7-11 Food Stores), Big Basin Way -
Buildins Site Approval - 1 Lot - Continued from October 10~ 1973
The Secretary recommended that SDR-1079 be continued to the next
regular meeting since purchase of that property is under consideration
by the City.
Chairman Lively so directed.
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III. D. SDR-1081 - James Dyer~ Vessing Road - Building Site Approval - 4 Lots
The Secretary recommended that SDR-1081 be continued to the next
regular meeting since the Public Works Department has requested
the applicant to submit a revised map.
Chairman Lively so directed.
E. SDR-1082 - Charles Hecker~ Pierce Road - Building Site Approval - 1 Lot
The Secretary stated that the applicant had reviewed the proposed
conditions of approval and.expressed satisfaction with same.
Commissioner Smith moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, that
the Staff Report dated October 23, 1973 be adopted and that the
tentative map (Exhibit "A", filed S~ptember 12, 1973) be·'approved
subject to the conditions set forth in said report; motion carried
unanimously.
F. SDR-1083 - F.rank Schillace, Upper Hill Drive - Building Site Approval -
1 Lot
The Secretary recommended that SDR-1083 be continued to the next
regular meeting in order to allow additional time to work out
problems with soil stability and grading.
Ch·airman Lively so directed.
G. SD-1078 - AVCO Community Developers, Inc., Cox Avenue - Subdivision
Approval - 18 Lots
Commissioner Smith explained that the applicant did meetSwith the
Subdivision Committee and was asked to work out a secondary access
to Scully Avenue. The applicant has now presented a plan which is
wholly unacceptable.
Commissioner Marshall moved, seconded by Commissioner Smith, that
Subdivision Approval for SD-1078 be denied on the basis the map
as submitted was unacceptable;emotion carried unanimously.
Mr. John Hanna, attorney for the applicant, was present and stated
that 1) he was sorry he was unable to speak before the motion to
deny was made and passed 2) at the time the maps for this subdivi-
sion were originally prepared everyone assumed that the West Valley
Freeway would be constructed 3) the subdivision proposed was sub-
mitted with the idea that it would force the hand of the State to
make a decision on this particular parcel 4) the matter did get
a court decision, which required the City to approve the map pro-
vided it met the Ordinance'requirements 5) at this point the
State declared it had no further interest in this parcel so that
left this property owner with a land-locked piece of property unless
it can be tied into an adjacent developers property and 6) originally
the though~ was that eventually the rest of the freeway strip would
be developed and that would provide the needed access for the proposed
development.
Chairman Lively noted that there might be other ways to develop this
property without as many lots that would be acceptable to the Planning
Commission; however, the map as currently presented is not acceptable.
The applicant can work with the Subdivision Committee and Staff to pro-
duce a map for this develo}ment that would be acceptable to the Design
Review Committee.'~'''~.
RECESS AND RECONVENE
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IV. DESIGN REVIEW
A. James A. Rodrigues, Woodbank Way - Final Design Review Approval of
Single-Family Residence - Continued from October 10,
1973
The Secretary read the Staff Report recommending that Final Design
Approval be granted for this residence.
Commissioner Marshall asked if the applicant had any comments rela-
tive to the subject Staff Report?
The Secretary explained that the applicant was notified that this
matter would be on the agenda this evening and in view of the fact
that he is not present he-Twou'ld ~.re~ommend that the matter be continued
to the next regular meeting.
Chairman Lively so directed.
B. 'A~l'9'- T & F Development Co., Big Basin Way and Fourth St.reet -
Preliminary Design Review - Commercial Building - Continued {
from OctOber 10~ 1973
Chairman Lively directed A-419 continued to the next regular meeting
due to the fact that SDR-1075 and SDR-1076 have not yet been approved
and the Architectural AdvisOry Committee and the Design Review Committee
are still in the process or reviewing this development.
C. Landscaping and Fencing Policies re Planned Community Developments -
Continued from October 10~ 1973
Commissioner Belanger submitted a report relative to Design Review
Standards for "P-C" Development re fencihg and landscaping.
Chairman Lively read the report which set forth general guidelines
for the Planning Commission to use in reviewing design of fencing
and landscaping in the "R-i-40,000" Planned Community area off of
Fruitvale Avenue.
Commissioner Marshall stated that he felt that planting rather than
plain solid fencing is the more ideal solution since it is softer
and gives a more pleasant environment wi~h a see through quality.
If the owners of property in the "P-C" development are interested
in delineatiod of their lot. lines there are other ways of accomplishing
this other than solid,wood fences.
Commissioner Smith inquired if the prgperty is fenced to the prescribed
limit of Type "A" (described in the Design Review Standards) is it
possible for the owner to go on with Type "C" and fence the rest of the
property.
Commissioner Belanger responeded that since Type "C" fencing involved
plants she could see no objection to that.
Commissioner Matteoni stated he had some concern regarding box, type
hedges that would be equivalent of boar~ fencing in providing· screening.
Commissioner Marshall stated that there are certain piantings that are
as effective as solid-wood fencing and these form an·~m~en~51~·.screen-
ing. ·
Commissioner Matteoni stated there would be a 16-foot strip outside the
fenced area that might present some maintenance problems, but would be
a further break from the~Bo"~'d~'f~l~'Bk. i·
Commissioner Belanger stated, perhaps, something more specific could be
added to the standards about this 16-foot strip landscaping.
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IV. C. Landscaping and Fencing - Continued
Commissioner Martin noted that it seemed landscaping along the
outside of the fencing constitutes double fencing.
Some of the residents of the "P-C" Development were present and
expressed their oppostion to the proposed set of standards sub-
mitted for consideration by. the Chairman of the Design Review
Committee. :
Commissioner Marshall stated that most of the existing one-acre
areas in the Saratoga (with the exception of tract developments)
do not have perimeter fencing.
Chairman Lively explained that it was the intent of the "P-C"
Development to create open-Space for the City of Saratoga as
well as the residents of the area.
Mrs. Margaret Dunn ofi9521 Douglass Avenue stated that with the
West Valley Junior College and tennis courts across the street
from this development the rural open-space atmosphere is gone'~?
therefore, if the residents of this development desire fencing
around their property they should be allowed to have same.
Chairman Lively stated the ~eveloper intends to plant a screening
buffer from Fruitvale Avenue and West Valley Junior College, and
create a green-belt area around this "P-C" Development.
Mr. Norton, resident of the "P-C" Development, stated that there
is no means of irrigating these landscaped buffer areas and in
effect the residents of this development have become the owners
of these areas and responsible for the maintenance; however, with-
out wate~ maintenance will be difficult.
Commissioner Belanger explained that the Design Review Committee
is scheduled to meet with the developer of the "P-C" Community on
Tuesday, October 30, 1973 and all interested residents of the
area are welcome to attend and discuss these matters at that time.
Chairman Lively directed the matter continued to the next regular
meeting and referred same to the Design Review Committee.
D. Tract 5244 - Osterlund Enterprises, Inc. - Saratoga and Cox Avenues -
Final Design Review - Lots 7 and 8 - Continued from
October 10~ 1973
Chairman Lively read the Staff Report dated October 23, 1973 recommending
that Final Design Approval be granted for Tract 5244.
Commissioner Belanger moved, seconded by Commissioner Matteoni, that
the Staff Report dated October 23, 1973 relative to Tract 5244 be
adopted and that Final Design Approval be granted for lots ~7 and 8
in Tract 5244 as shown on Exhibits "A" and "B"; motion carried unani-
mously.
V. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
None
VI. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS
A. Almaden Development Corporation, Oak Street - Request for City
Abandonment of a Portion of 4th
Street - Continued from October 10~ 1973
The Secretary stated that Mr. Trinidad of the Department of Public Works
has a recommendation on this matter.
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VI. A. Almaden Development - Continued
Mr. Trinidad explained that the Public Works Department has studied
this request and recommend against the abandonment of Fourth Street
at this time since the connection tO Big Basin Way and Oak Street
is physically possible., F~urth Street may be more desirable as
the interconnect with Oak Street than is Third Street since Fourth
would make a full four-way intersection at Big Basin Way and is,
therefore, more likely to warrant a traffic signal. Also, if properly
constructed, it can have a '~e'~e'Y ~.lope and a flat landing area at
Oak Street. It would be advisable to!wait until the Planning
Consultants make a recommendation relative to this matter in the
General Plan Review.
Chairman Lively directed the matter be held in abeyance until such
time as the Planning ConsUltant's recommendation is received.
B. John Vance - Request for Reconsideration of Conditions AllOwing
50% of Residences to be Two-Story
The Secretary stated that a communication has been received from'
Mr. and Mrs. Vance summarizing information that restates their
postion on the matter of the Osterlund Development at the north-
east corner of Fruitvale and Allendale Avenues.
Mr. Vance was presentaand stated he would like to remind the
Commission there is a petition on file with fifty-six (56)
signatures protesting the construction of two-story homes in
the Osterlund Development at the corner of Fruitvale and
Allendale Avenue.
The Secretary explained that the matter could~wait until after the.
adoption of the two-story ordinance. The Emergency Ordinance
relating to two-story construction applies only to existing h'omes
proposed for second story additions.
Chairman Lively referred the matter back to the Subdivision Committee
for study and a report.
C. .Referral of Land Development Matter in Santa Clara County for Stanley
R. Lee~ McGill and Bohlman/Roads
The Secretary explained that this is a proposal before the County
Planning Commission and involves a four'.z (4) lot subdivision in
Saratoga's Sphere of Influence. He then recommended that the matter
be continued to the next regular meeting to allow additiOnaln"time
for study and preparation of a recommendation.
Chairman Lively so directed and referred the matter to the Staff
for further study and a report.
VII. COMMUNICATIONS
A. WRITTEN
1. Fire Access Road from Ambric Knolls to Toll Gate
The Secretary read a petition received from the residents of
Ambric Knolls Road requesting that careful consideration
be given before allowing the closing of the fire access road
from Ambric Knolls Road'tb~th~.2Toll Gate subdivision since this
is the only means of secondary access.
Chairman Lively referred the matter to the Staff for study and
a report.
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vII. A. 2. Letter from R. B. Wilds
The Secretary read a communication received from R. B. Wilds
of 14633 Ambric"' Knolls Road suggesting several minor modifi-
cations at the intersection of Saratoga Avenue, Big Basin Way
and Saratoga-Sunnyvaler Road. He then stated that the matter
has been referred to the Department of Public Works.
3. Memo to Planning CommiSsion
The Secretary noted~. the '.~Ci~t,y ~Manager ' s memo in answer
to a request made by the Planning Commission ]to have the
."~i~'At'FF~n~ey and City Manager initiate whatever legal proceed-
ings 'a'~e necessary to cause the West Valley Jr. College District
to desist from further. development of the Saratoga Campus
contrary to plans reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission.
The memo explained that the City Manager and the City Attorney
cannot initiate legal action but can only follow through on its
implementation once the City Council has approved such action.
4. Letter from Mrs. T. G.' Roland
The Secretary read a communication received from Mrs. T. G.
Roland of 20812 Fourth' Street expressing her objections to
the location of ai~.7-11 Store at the former Richfield Station
site 'on Big Basin Way.
Chairman Lively directed the '.c.ommunication be noted and filed.
B. ORAL
1. LAFCO
The Secretary stated that LAFCO has asked that any ideas or
suggestions in connection with the review of the Urban Service
Area should be submitted and a map will be put together and
the matter will be placed on the agenda for formal review.
2. WVJC
Commissioner Marshall explained that he resigned from the West
Valley Junior College Board and afeer considerable discussion
with the representatives from the College he felt they were,
also, concerned about the necessity of improved communications
between the College and the City. Even though they felt the
College went more than half way in trying to bridge the gap.
Maybe things could be improved if the College Staff could
better interface with the City Staff.
Commissioner Belanger pointed out that the College does not have
City approval for the .lighting for the tennis courts.
Commissioner Marshall .explained that the contract for the
lighting for the tennis courts has already been let. The Staff
of the two political bodies should get together and sort out
what has been approved and what has not been approved.
Chairman Lively noted that, perhaps, .this can best be accomplished
by working through the City Manager.
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iLB. 3. Meeting Night for the Planning Commission
Commissioner Smith recommended that the regular schedule for
meeting nights (second and fourth Monday of each month) be
changed because of the frequency of holidays falling on those
Mondays.
Chairman Lively requested the Secretary to look into this
situation and come back with a satisfactory alternate date by
the next regular meeting.
4. Guests
Chairman Lively acknowledged, with pleasure, the presence of Mary
Moss of the Good Government Group, Mark Roberts and Lou Tersini
of Osterlund Enterprises. He, also, thanked Ms. Moss for the
coffee served at recess.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Belanger moved, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, that the
.meeting of October 23, 1973 be adjourned at 11:45 P.M.; motion carried
unan imou sly.
Respectfully submitted,
Secretary '
Saratoga Planning Commission
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