HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-12-1981 Planning Commission Minutes CITY OF SARATOGA PLANNING COMMISSION
"MINU~ES
DATE: Wednesday, August 12, 1981 -- 7:30 p~m.
PLACE: City Council Chamber's, 13777 Fru{tvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regu'lar Meeting
ROUT I NE '0 RGAN I Z AT I ON
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Bolger, Crowther, King,.Laden, Monia, Schaefer and
Zambetti (Commissioner Zambetti~arri.ved at 7:40 p.m.)
Absent: None
Minutes
The' following changes were made to the minutes of July 22, 1981: In the' Minutes
section, fifth line., "on his part" should mbe deleted. In the seventh line UP-553
should be V--SS3. With those changes, Commissioner Schaefer' moved, seconded by
Commissioner Bolger, to waive the reading tof the minutes of July 22, 1981 and
approve as distributed. The motion was carried, with Commissioners King and
Monia abstaining since they were not pres'e.nt at the meeting.
CONSENT CALENDAR :
SDR-1366 was removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion. Commissioner
Monia moved, seconded by Commissioner King', to approve the remaining item listed
below. The motion was carried unanimously.
2. A-778 Paul Heath, Quite Road, Garage~ and Guest Addition, Final Design
Review Approval ....
Discussion fol. lowed on SDR-.1.366, Bert Reidl, Conditional Final Building Site
Approval. Staff noted that the items discussed at the last meeting, the parcel
map and the letter from the Fire Department, are still outstanding.
Mr. Reid, the applicant, stated that he had been on vacation, but he had discussed
this project with the Fire Chief and Staff before he left. Ite explained that he
was planning to put the water in at the same time as the foundation. Mr. Reid
stated that the Fire Chief has received all of the appropriate information from
the Saratoga Heights Water Company. He added that, while the' plans are going
through plancheck, if it is determined. that he will not be able to put in the
water, he will have a letter from the Saratoga Heights Water Company, which the
Fire Chief will approve, a~d ~'~t.=will be in ~he file before the building permit is
issued to frame the house. Mr. Reid stated that he could go ahead with his con-
struction loan if the Commission would give him approval, and the outstanding
items could be handled while the paperwOrk was being done. He clarified that the
house will be at the upper level and the septic field will be on the lower pad.*
Commissioner Crowther expressed concern regarding the geology. It was noted that
Conditions III-D and III-F addressed his concerns regarding the stripping of
slopes and the fact that the pad looks like it was filled. Mr.. Reid clarified
that.the house is not on fill. Commissioner Crowther also commented that the
report from the City Geologist had not been signed by him, and that a change had
been pencilled in on that report. Staff explai.ned that the change had been made
to read "before.issuance of building permit", as opposed to final map approval,
to make it consistent with conditions of the report. They also explained that
it was the practice of the City Geologist and the City to have the report typed
by the secretary for the Department of Inspection Services and the Director sign
for him. **
Commissioner Schaefer moved, seconded by Commissioner King, to approve 8DR-1366,
subject to the submission.of a parcel map and the letter from the Fire Chief.
Commissioner Bolger expressed his concern about all of the Congress Springs area
and asked about the letter that the applicant had signed regarding the geological
problems in that particular area, which' r61ieves the 'City of any liability..He
asked if this had been tested in courtj and..the Deputy City Attorney stated that
he was unaware of any specifi~ cases involVfng the'type of letter the City custo-
marily receives.
* Addition on page la attached. - ......
** Addition on page la attached.
Planning Commission Page la
Meeting Minutes - 8/1
SDR-1366 - Bert Reid - Conditional Final Building Site Approval
Concern was expressed as to whether the Fire Chief, in his letter,
could revise the conditions required'for water supply. It was
indicated that the conditions must be met and they cannot be revised
by the Fire Department.
Commissioner Crowther indicated that he could not accept a formal
geology recommendation to the Planning Commission that was not signed
by the City Geologist.
P~ani~i'~g Commission .... Page 2
Meeting Minutes· 8/12/8··1
SDR-.1366 (cont.)
A time-frame was 'discussed, and Commissioner Schaefer amended her motion
to include the 'condition that the o~tstanding conditions be met by
September 30, 1981. Commissioner· King accepted the amendment. The vote
was taken on the ·motion to approve SDR-.1366 subject to that.~c'~n_'_~'~'~H'~.~·
The motion-wa·s carried, wi·th Commissioners Bolger, Crowthe-r and Monia
dissenting.
PUBLIC HEARI'NGS
3a. Negat'iv'e 'De'cla'ra'ti'on'.-'UP--'5'0'0 -.'O'u'dewaal
3b. UP-·500 -·- Martin Oudewa·al, 14629 Big Basin Way, Request for a Use Permit
to allow ·the ·construction 2of four (4) condominium multi-family
dwellings ·in·the "C--V" (Vi.sitor-·Commercial) district; Continued
· ' 'fro~. 'J'u'ly. 22, ··19'81 .... · ' ' '
staff ."?
The 'public Hearing was 'opened at 7:50 p.m.
Warren Held, the architect, gave a p:resentation on the project. The ease-
ment and requirements of the Water D.istrict were discussed. Mr. Held
also addressed' the parking and the concrete deck. He submitted a letter
regarding the height 'of the structure, the garages and towers.
'The patter'n of deVelopment'on Big Ba:sin Way was discussed. Mr. Held stated
that he had contacted the-immediate neighborhood regarding the present
proposal. and had received tremendous. support.
Commissioner Zambet'ti asked if Mr. H~id had any input from the Chamber of
Commerce or Merchants AssociatiOn regarding the proposed use, and Mr. Held
stated that he had not. Commissi'one.r Zambetti commented that an office
use could be'of great support to a Ci-V or C-C district. He added that he
felt that this site is a significantZ'piece of C-V property in the City,
and he feels -i.t is important to cons:ider where the growth is going to go
if this site becomes a residential piece of property.
Staff commented that, in terms of any plans for the Village and an action
program for it with'regard to the Geheral Plan update, this has not yet
been generated by the 'Committee. ThEey noted that the information from each
of the planning areas has been put together in consensus reports and they
are now having final revisions.
Commissioner Schaefer'moved to close: the public hearing. Commissioner King
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Staff clarified that the zoning and General Plan for this site are con-
sistent. Commissioner King stated that, as a Commissioner and neighbor,
he feels that a high quality condominium is appropriate for this end of
Big Basin' Way. He added that he is Concerned about the traffic flow should
further commercial development alOng. Big Basin be allowed. Commissioner
King indicated that he felt that, unless there is an alternate plan for
· traffic flow, further commercial development should not be encouraged.
CommisSioner Bolger agreed, stating that he felt this would be a very
appropriate use above Fifth Street.
It was the consensus that the use should be addres'Sed at this time, and
the density aspect can be discussed at a later time, since site development
and design review will still be required.
Commissioner Schaefer moved to approve the Negative Declaration for UP-'S00.
Commissioner King seconded the motion. It was determined that the number
of units should be deleted from the project description on the Negative
Declaration. Commissioner Schaefer amended her motion to include that
deletion. Commissioner King accepted the amendment. The motion was
carried, with Commissioner Zambetti dissenting.
Commissioner' Schaefer moved to approve UP-S00 for construction of condo'-
minium multi-family units at 14629 Big Basin, per the Staff Report dated
- 2 -
."Planni~ng Commission Page 3
==Meeting Minutes 8/12/81
UP-SO0 (cent.)
gune 18, 1981, amended to read that the number of units will be deter-
mined during the 'site development and design review process. Commissioner
King seconded th'e motion, which 'was carried, with Commissioner Zambetti
dissenting.
4. V-SS0 -. Ronald and Patricia Knapp,.20885 Wardell Road, Request for a
Variance 'to allow an existing corral and barn to remain.in their
present location which does not meet current ordinance setback
reqUirements.'(S0'.from any.property line and 100' from any dwell-
" 'ingno't"onthe':Site';"COnt'inued'from '3uly 2'2, 1981
The 'Deputy City Attorney' gave 'the history of the proposal. He noted that
this matter had been' continued from 'the last meeting because of a split
vote.
Commissioner Crowther stated that there were more members of the public
who were 'in. favor of the corral and barn than opposed, and the Public
Health officer from the.County did not indicate a problem in many of the
areas that were being criticized. He noted that Staff had recommended
that the 'Commission grant a variance.. Commissioner Crowther stated that
he felt the City, at this point, sh6uld try to stay out of the matter and
should accept the applicant's reques~t for withdrawal.
The Deputy City Attorney stated that' if the Planning Commission issues a
directive for the 'horse permit to be revoked, then they are in effect
concluding'that a variance was required. He explained that the condition
regarding the 'zoning aspect is on the City records, and it would seem that
the' permit was issued' in recognition' of the fact that the adjacent area
was not then developed, and when development did occur the relocation of
the corral and barn would be required. He added that the ordinance per-
taining to the 'issuance 'of horse per'mits specifically states that if a
permit is issued under a situation which does not comply with the Zoning
Ordinance, the permit is to be deemed null and. void. The Deputy City
Attorney further explained that when the site area is computed it is cus-
tomary to exclude streets and easements; therefore, when those areas are
excluded, it reduces the area down to 32,000 sq. ft. He noted that this
exclusion does not pertain to easements for utilities. He indicated that
this. proposal does not comply with s'etbacks with respect to the 30 foot
requirement from a street, the 50 foot requirement from a p.~op.e~ty .~i~e, or
the 100 foot requirement from an adjacent dwelling
Commissioner Zambetti stated that he. cannot accept the applicant's with-
drawal for a variance that is immedi'ate business before the Commission.
Commissioner Monia moved to direct Staff not to take any action concerning
V-550 for the horse permit. Commiss'ioner Bo!ger seconded the motion.
Commissioner Schaefer commented that. she would have voted for the variance,
hopefully with some time limit and perhaps some other conditions. She
expressed her' concern that, by not taking any action, the Commission would
be setting a precedent by saying that, although an issue is not in con-
formity on many different levels, and not requiring a variance, t'he..City
would be allowing many other kinds of situations to be referenced to this
case. ;'
Commissioner Bolger stated that he could share that concern; however, the
major problem with this case is the fly issue, and that has been taken
care of with all of the' spraying. He commented that he would like to see
the neighbors work together to resolve this issue, and he does not believe
the City should be"involved in it any further than it has been at this time.
Commissioner Schaefer commented that: there are ordinances&t~.'ConS'id~y~_~'and
:.j~"~'a'~'~y"~'the neT~hb~.?~'~7'~ ~ot ';t'al'king' 're 'eaCh 'other', .... She '=.s'~fi'~ed"t~a~:-.'.7"'~.
~gb Si'tuation has 'gone 'beyond 'the ne~ghg~rho0~ ~nd she feels it is up toI''
the 'City '.to: ma.ke 'a '~.decis ion.
Commissioner' Crowther stated that he believes the Horse Permit Ordinance
has provisions in it that the' City can revoke the permit if the holder is
creating a public nuisance or is creating problems; however, this was not
the conclusion. He explained that there was a lot of input that the
applicant wa's-:-not."conducting himself in such a way that the City would have
_'L-_ _-_ _'_ ~ _'~ _ ' .... '.' ~' ~..'. -.
~ ~a' '6 :'. '~'~ ~ac~a.7.~. .......~ ......~.,~-. ., . ...... .......:,- ......... .......
. . _: .;.' ........... ,:-:: - _ - ~:~-,.: - : . .-~: : ...........:...... =:~..
=__ ..... ~-~,-~,~-:~.~; ...... _ ~ .... ._~ry..~__..~ ..~.= ~ ,'.- ~ .....~ ... . ~_ , ~.~-~ ......... ~
-.
Planning Commission Page 3a
Meet.Lng Mi.~utes 8./1.2/.8.1
V-550 - Ronald Knapp
* The question was raised as to whether the City had been consistent in
subtracting easements when computing site area, with particular
reference to lots in the Parker. Ranch development and a recently
approved development on Big Basin Way. The Deputy City Attorney
indicated that street easements are excluded when the site area is
computed; however, other types of public or private easements are not.
~l:anni~'g Commission Page 4
~Meeting Minutes 8/!2/81.
V-550 (cont.)
a basis for revoking the permit.
The vote was taken on the motion to direct Staff not to take any action
for the horse permit wi·th··regard'to V=-550. The motion failed, with
Commissioners Laden, King, Schaefer and Zambetti dissenting.
COmmissioner King commented that he felt the central issue is whether a
horse is appropriate on this ·site. He stated that this is a rather small
site and is probably inappropriate for a horse. Commissioner King stated
that this is no longera rural neighborhood, although there may be one
near it.
Commissioner· King moved to request Staff to initiate proceedings to revoke
the· horse ·permit from this site, as suggested· by the City Attorney, unless
a variance comes back before the Commission. The Deputy City Attorney
stated that if·the ·applicant wished to appeal revocation proceedings, that
appeal would go directly to the City Council. Commissioner Zambetti
seconded the ·motion, which ·wa's carried, with Commissioners Bolger, Crowther
and Monia dissenting.
Commiss·i·oner Schaefer stated· that she had voted for the motion, even thQug~
she feels a horse cer·tain.ly could belong on the site, because she feels t·h·~t
"t~e.;'matfer" ~h~ui'd .'.'go .~e'~on~j'.~Jie' C'Gmm~"'4:~" level '.~ this Doi.nt.
S. SDR--1S00 - .Norma.Behel, Herriman Avenue, 2 Lots, Tentative Building Site · . ""A'pp'r'o'v'a"l';"C'on't'i'nue'd"fro'm' July 22, 1981
The proposal was described by Staff.' It was noted that a variance had
prev'iously been approved O'n thi'~"~pro. j. ect.
The public hearing was opened at 9:05 p'.m.
Doug Adams, the attorney, stated that the applicant has no intention of
building at this point, and the purpose of the' proposal was to split the
lots so they conform to the other lots in the area. He expressed his
concern about the' conditions' in the Staff Report, which include payment of
fees, since' the 'applicant does not intend to build at this time. Mr. Adams
explained that he had discussed' the condition from Sanitation District
No. 4 with them, and there is a possibility that some of the storm drainage
fees will be reduced and waived until such time as a building permit is
applied for. The 'conditions of the Staff Report were discussed,.and it was
explain&d by Staff that Conditions II-.C, D and E would not come into play
until there 'is some use of the lot, and Ill-B, C, D and E would not be
required prior to Final Map Approval, Regarding Condition II-A, Staff
indicated that this condition has always been applied with'site development
rather than the' issuance 'of'a building permit. Chairman Laden commented
that perhaps Condition V-.A, regarding the hook up to sewers, is directed
towards 'both lots. She' explained' that it has been customary for the City
to bring all lots that are involved in a lot split up to the City require-
ments, which would apply 'to both parcels in this case.
Mr. Adams stated' that he was hopeful that additional comments from the
Sanitation District No. 4 would be received soon, and it was determined
that Condition' IV-.A be amended to read "Sanitary sewers to be provided and
fees paid in accordance With requirements of Sanitation District No. 4 as
outlined in letter dated' June 22, 1981 or any additional letters submitted
by the Sanitation District."
Commissioner' Zambetti moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner King
seconded the' motion, wh'ich was carried unanimously.
Commissioner King moved t6 approve SDR-1S00, per the conditions of the
Staff Report dated July 8, 1981 as amended. Commissioner Zambetti
seconded the mot'ion, wh'ich was carried. unanimously.
6. A-775 Dividend Development Corporation, Request for Design Review Approval
for a two-story single~'fami~y dwelling that would be over 22' in
h.eiglit (30' max.) on a lot with an average slope of less than 10%
in the R-.1-.-20,000 zoning district on Carnelian Glen (Lot 4, Tract
6'72'2') ...............
Staff described the proposal. -~i~u~sio~..~0110wed on the lo~ l~.pe~'.~d~'~'-''
4 /
~f~nni~g Commission Page S
~eeting Minutes 8/12/81
A-?7S (cont.)
the ·building envelopes in the area ahd specifically regarding th'i's project.
Th.e public hearing was opened at 9:3S p.m.
Jim Omsberg, from Dividend Development Corporation, stated that the lot
lines and the building envelopes as .to where these houses were sited
were dictated to them at the time ·they received tentative map approval.
Lorraine Pace, Carnelian Glen Court, expressed her concern with the ease-
ment along the side. She explained ·that there is a pathway there that
has been used, and she is concerned 'that, now that it is going to be
blocked off, the easement will not b[e clear so they can walk through. She
indicated that there was a lot of brlush in that area and the easement is
along the creek. Mrs. Pace requested the Commission·t6 ask 'the applicant,
while they had heavy equipment there, to run a tractor through to clear
some of the brush away.
It was noted that this proposal fall!s under the Urgency Ordinance; the new
Design Review Ordinance will be effe.ctive August 1S, 1981. A letter was
noted into the record from Mr. Frank. Grengo, a neighbor on Horseshoe Drive,
indicating his concern that the acce:ss of the drive or road should be
fenced .for protection of the children and the homes be placed in such a
way as to not have an effect on the icreek and plant life.
Commissioner Monia moved to close th]e public hearing. Commissioner King
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commiss~·oner King suggested that the Commission consider this application
under the guidelines developed under the new ordinance, to satisfy them-
selves that this structure meets those guidelines.
Commissioner Monia suggested pulling: the house a little forward, in order
to save some of the.trees. It was pointed out that if the home were moved
forward on the scenic easement line .the side yard setback would be lost.
The easement line was discussed.
Commissioner Zambetti expressed his concern with the height of this
structure. He commented that he felt the house was too big for this lot.
He noted that there are two other vacant lots on this property, and those
two homes are going to have to be consistent with the' new ordinance. He
also indicated that he felt the side yard setback is.inadequate for a
30 ft. structure.
Commissioner King commented that his. concerns were regarding the design
review process. FIe stated that, even though this Staff Report was written
based upon the Urgency Ordinance which is presently in effect, he feeis
that the City has had no guidelines for design review to deal with a lot
of severe problems in this community.. He added that it was the consensus
of the Commission that the general guidelines for design review in the new
ordinance were most suitable for the:City.
Chairman. Laden stated that she has a problem with a. pplying the specific
measurements in the new ordinance onia proposal that has been submitted
when the new ordinance is not yet in:effect. The Deputy City Attorney
pointed out that the new ordinance can certainly be considered with
reference to its general guidelines,%but there is a clear distinction
between the general guidelines and specific quantified requirements. He
added that, if this item is continued, then the Commission would be
considering it under the new ordinance; as of this meeting the Urgency
Ordinance is still in effect. The Deputy City Attorney stated that the
Commission cannot deny the design revi'ew for violation"of the new ordi-
nance; they may conclude that this proposal doesn't meet the criteria,
but since the Urgency Ordinance already has some of the same criteria, to
that extent the Commission can make the same decision under the Urgency
Ordinance.
Commissioner Crowther commented that, if the house were turned 45° on the
site,."tHen-D~ssiblly..the-s'e'tb.acks .cotfl.d .be~met.~' C~mmis's.i.~ne'r Monila
stated that he has a problem with the side setback and the height of the
structure.
'~Pi.an~ihg Commission Page 6
=Meeting Minutes 8/12/81
A-775 (cont.)
Commissioner Schaefer moved to approve A-775, with the stipulation that
the grading be done to allow for the pathway and easement with a minimum
amount. of disturbance to the creek itself, if possible. The motion failed
for lack of a second.
Commissioner Monia moved to deny A-775 because of the height and the fact
that the setbacks are not consistent with the neighborhood, and it would.
create an impact on some of the neighbors. Commissioner Kin~"~s.~onde'~
the motion. :
Mr. Omsberg stated that he was confused, since they were given instructions
and designed this home in terms of ~he old ordinance. Chairman Laden stated
that the Commission is operating under the UrgenCy Ordinance tonight; how-.'-
ever, the Commission has the discretion to indicate that those setbacks are
not sufficient. She added that the.Commission feels the structure is too
high and the setbacks are not sufficient for the size of the structure.
Commissioner Schaefer commented that she felt the applicant was being put
in a very difficult position, since~he assumed that the'prOposal'would be
considered under the Urgency Ordinance. Commissioner King stated that all
of the applicants have been in that same difficult position for the last
two years while the City had an ambiguous Design Review Ordinance.
Chairman Laden stated that she would like to continue the matter and allow
the applicant to make an effort to redesion .the house to meet the 'setbacks
that the Commission is looking~for.~
Commissioner Bolger stated that he would like the applicant to bring back
a modified design, possibly showing.the house tipped'45° to comply with
the setbacks, and how that would affect the site development plan. He
indicated that he was primarily addressing the rear setback, but also
would like to see the side yard setback increased, although 'it does meet
ordinance requirements. Commissioner Monia stated that, for that size of
structure, he would like the side y~rd setback increased to at least 20 ft.
The vote was taken on the motion to~deny A--775. The motion was carried,
with Commissioners Laden and Schaefer dissenting.
Chairman Laden stated that the applicant has come to the Commission under
the criteria that has been used for the last several months. She added
that she would like the Commission to direct the applicant as to what the
problems are and what the Commission would like to see in a modified plan.
Commissioner Zambetti stated that he would like to see a side 'yard setback
of at least 20-25 ft. He suggested~putting an L shape to the design to
use more of the rear yard. He added that he felt it was imposing upon the
neighbor to the south;.therefore, the two-story structure portion could be
moved over toward the north and it ~ould be mom applicable.
Commissioner King stated that he had no problems with the setbacks, since
they meet the Urgency Ordinance. However, he added, he does have problems
with the height and its bulk compared to the adjacent proper'ties and
compatibility with the neighborhood.
The applicant was informed of the 10-.day appeal period. It was 'clarified
that any revised plan w.ill be considered under the new Design Review'
Ordinance.
7. SDR-1501 Jean Rohrig, Request for Tentative Building Site Approval for
2 lots on Douglass Lane
Staff described the proposal. They indicated that it is practical for'this
proposal to take access off of Douglass Lane.
The public hearing was opened at 10:10 p.m.
Jean Rohrig, the applicant, stated that she has no problem with the S~aff
Report.
- 6
~l°anni~g Commission Page 7
~eeting Minutes 8/12'/81
SDR-1501 (cent..)
Carolyn Cory, Durham Court, stated that she would like to ensure that
Parcel B stay Under 40,000 sq. ft., to prevent a horse on the site in the
future. It was' noted that there is a condition in the Staff Report which
ensures that the kitchen facilities will be removed,
Commissioner Zambetti moved to close.the public hearing. Commissioner
Schaefer seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commissioner Zambetti moved to approve SDR--1501, per the Staff Report and
Exhibit "B". Commissioner King seconded the motion, which was carried
unanimously.
8. UP=506 -. Hitchman/Muzinich, Request for a Use Permit to allow the operation
of an infant/family care center in a single-.family dwelling at
13641 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Ro~d
Staff described the proposal. They noted that there are community concerns
about traffic and the appropriateness of this use.
The public hea~ing was opened at 10:16 p.m.
Clifford'.G~rdn~ 13641 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, stated that they live in the
back house at this address. He commented that they have four children and
are concerned over traffic. Mr, G~d~6~r'noted that the traffi~ study which
had been done was conducted in July when the schools are not holding classes
and people are on vacation. He described the e. xisting driveway which is
shared, and the. impact on the children which this proposal would have.
Mr. ~dn'e'~'expressed concern regarding parking, the removal of trees, the
noise impact, the fact that the house is on a septic tank, licensing 'require-
ments regarding space, and the impact on property values. He submitted a
petition with. signatures of the four'adjoining property owners and visiting
friends, in opposition to the proposal.
Connie Muzinich, the applicant, desc'~ibed the current proposal. She 'explain-
ed that Mr.=~j~he."~ could use their e~it at the southern end of the property.
She commented that the parents can double park cars as needed, and that this
will be a drop-in hourly operation. .She stated that it was her intent to
provide a homelike atmosphere for the children and she felt there was a
great need in the community for this,.~type of project. Mrs. Muzinich stated
that she will have the most space fo~. infants, and they do not make that
much noise'. She explained that she would have a live-in lady; her bedroom
will be used as part of the play area during the daytime and is included as
part of the square footage. Mrs. Muzinich stated that she would look
further into the septic tank situation, since she had been unaware of it.
Commissioner Schaefer stated that the' demand for this type of operation is
great; however, .'a'fte~"V'~'it~n'~'~t'~.'~ 'si~t'~, ~h'e"'~e~i'~ th~t".'t'~f'~"~fd~i-~.r loca-~
:'~i'6'ff'~li'~S"'~.s ome ' r'~'a~. ~% l~ms ~'~' 'she · He ~=~'~' ~}~' th~""~:a~'frc .i~ "~_~' .'~aj or and
".~ H~:'Y~ i~ '."'~' ~li:e ~'~6~' e'c't b e 17~s' ~!~'-~ d~'ffe Fe'nt ~.1 o~'F~'6'H:~' -~7~.h --~n .~'~t~anc'e
',~"~ a~'fH~.~'~.~Z~.~'-'~.~li'~':-'~J~.~ 'f~f~ga:-Z sUnnyv'~l'~'' Road. ' .... '
Henry Caplan, 20745 Sevilla Lane, spoke in opposition to the proposal. He
stated that he feels this will depriv:e the current owners the use and
enjoyment and value of their property; it puts upon them the responsibility
for e.~traordinary care coming down their common driveway. Mr. Caplan stated
that he feels it will be a detriment :to the neighborhood, since it involves
licensing which includes care of teenagers. He indicated that he felt the
traffic study is inadequate, and that the Staff Report is inadequate because
it did not mention the spetic tank and did not deal with the inadequacies
of the driveway access and the suitability of parking in the area. He
added that they 'wish to keep the neighborhood in a non-.commercial pleasant
manner and consider this to be an intrusion.
David Morton, 20'500 E1 Dorado Court,'addressed the serious health problem
of his daughter, who needs quiet and rest. He expressed hi's concern regard-
ing the noise.,and also the shared driveway. Mr. Morton indicated that it
is now extremely dangerous to turn into the driveway and this will add to
it. He stated t'hat the' lot is extremely narrow and traffic will back out
onto Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. He added that he felt the purpose of zoning
was to protect the citizens from such projects in a nice residential commun-
ity.
7
Plan~ih.g Commission Page 8
-~Meeting Minutes 8/12/81
UP-S06 (cont.)
Bill 'Gi:ll~n;- 20535 E1 Dorado Court,. stated that it was not practical for
the Ga~'d~ers to use the southern exit.. He added that the driveway will be
blocked if people double park in it. Mr.'G'~ll'~n' stated that he did not
feel the project could be properly staffed 'if a drop-in business was con-
ducted. He added that he did not fe'el that the facility has the kind of
flexibility in square footage needed to accommodate all of the children.
Mr.'Gill6n"stated that he felt there is a need for this type of project;
however, it would be more appropriate in a business-.type area.
Joan P~'arelio, i365'~.-'Saratoga-sUnn~vale Rdad, ~xp~esse~ concern"~e'gard~ng
the'.'S~fe'ty of get~iBg into the driveways. She explained that the. overflow
now comes into their vacant lot, andi this project will add more cars.
Commissioner King moved to close the. public hearing. Commissioner Zambetti
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commissioner Ki'ng moved to deny UP-S06. Commissioner Crowther seconded
the motion.
Commissioner Zambetti commented that:he felt this use is needed in the City,
but not at this. location; possibly sbme place else in the Village.
Commissioner Laden stated that the Commission is concerned about the
traffic impacts, especially in that particular location. She commented.
that this proposal seems to be more of a business than a normal daycare
home that might: take in six young people; however, she does feel there is
a need in the City.
Th.e vote was taken on the motion to deny UP-506. The motion was carried
unanimously. The applicant was informed of the 10-.day appeal period.
9. V-555 Carl and Janet Groat, Request for a Variance to allow the expansion
of an existing single-family~dwelling to maintain a 4' side yard
where 6' is required' at 20221 La Paloma Avenue
The proposal was described by Staff.' Discussion followed on.fire concerns.
Staff reported that this proposal is=not adjacent to any structures, and
they had contacted the Building Department regarding fire code. The set-
backs of the other homes in the 'area' were discussed.
The public hearing was opened'at ll:Q8 p.m.
Park Miller, the architec.t,.addressed the concern regarding fire safety.
He explained that there is at least a 6 ft. offset between any structures
on the adjacent.property and the pr0~osed new structure. He added that the
roofing materials will match the exis~ting roofing. Mr. Mill'er also commented
that the variance should have included the approval to have an 18 ft. wide
garage at the opening where 20 feet fs required.
Commissioner ~ing moved to close the 'public hearing. Commissioner Zambetti
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
It was determined that the 18 feet at the entrance to the garage is an
acceptable width, and this notation should be added to the Staff Report.
Commissioner Zambetti moved to approve V-555, per the Staff Report dated
July 21, 1981 as amended, and Exhibits "B" and "C", making the findings.
Commissioner Crowther seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
DESIGN REVIEW
10. A-777 = Quito-Saratoga Center, Inc.,. Cox Avenue, Free-Standing Sign,.Final
Design.Review Approval
It was directed that this item be continued to the' meeting on August 26, 1981.
- 8 -
~Pl~nn'ing Commission Page 9
~eeting Minutes 8/1.2/81
MISCELLANEOUS
11. SDR-.l164 Alan Joe, 14296 Taos Drive, Request to Modify Condition to
AllOw More Th'an 15% 'of S:ite to be Enclosed by Fence
Staff explained that this is a Plann'ed Community zoned development, and
there were a number of specific conditions attached to the subdivision in
order to preserve the open s'pace. Among these wast. the requirement that
no interior fencing s.hould exceed 15%. Staff added that the Staff Report
indicates that ther'e is precedence for denying such a request.
Dr. Alan Joe, the applicant, explain'ed that there are a number of dogs
in the neighborhood running around. He stated that his family members
are allergic to the 'dogs and their excrement. Dr. Joe stated that his
· back yard is fully 'landscaped, and they'would like to keep the dogs and
also children's bicycles and wild animals from damaging their landscaping.
He also noted that there had been incidents of vandalism in his backyard.
He described the type of fence he was requesting, which he did not feel
would be obstructing. Dr. Joe added that he felt that a fence to enclose
the backyard would solve most of their problems. He noted that he had
obtai'ned signatures from 78% of the lot owners in the' subdivision, in favor.
of deleting the 15% fencing restriction from the CC&Rs. He submitted a
drawing showing his plan and also photographs.
Chairman Laden stated that the CC&Rs~ would have to be changed by the home-
owners if the requirements of that Planned Community district were to be
changed. Dr. Joe indicated that it :was his understanding that, if 75% of
the lot owners signed, agreeing to have it changed, and the Planning Commis-
sion also agrees, it can be changed.: He pointed out that he had received
signafures of 75% of the 4 lots in ~is subdivision.
Commissioner Zambetti stated that he would not be in favor of ch. anging
this requirement for one lot. He suggested that the applicant t~ke a
petition to the people within that "%'o'h'in~ ~istri'c~"~nd'the 'adjoin'ihgj .'
one in that Planned Community distr~ct and get the appropriate percentage
of signatures, and then the Commission would be willing to consider it.
He noted that there have been other requests before the Commission that
have been denied.
.It was the consensus of the Commission that they.~ould be in favor of
considering changing the restriction for the-',~t-i-g~'~u~""pl'~g~'~:~o~'mU~'~'~.~?
"~.6'm~.~.~,~/-~j~F~o~'~'~{~t-one indi.vidual ~ot~ " ' ....
The Deputy City Attorney stated that the CC&Rs are a matter of ~ublic
.... ?.--'record. He explained that if they ~ere amended by the agreement of the
people whose lots are restricted by:the CC&Rs to remove this requirement,
then this could be considered by. the Planning Commission. He added that
to amend the CC&Rs there will have ~o be a formal document that is signed,
notarized and recorded that puts everyone on record of the amendment.
Dr. Joe was instructed to contact the Planning Department to get the names
of the homeowners associations in the area and an explanation of the proper
procedure.
12. V-541 - R. A. Maddalena, Big Basin Way, 90-day Review of Variance
Doug Adams, the attorney for the'applicant, gave a status report on this
project. He stated that he has spent a substantial amount of time famil-
iarizing himself with the methods of creating parking assessment districts.
He commented that he had contacted Mr. Phil Assaf to determine under what
particular statutes the districts were created in Saratoga. Mr. Adams also
noted that he Dlanned to contact the people who are either opposed or not
in favor of the new parking assessment district. He requested .the City to
allow him tO spend a substantia. 1 amount of time. with Phil Assaf, the City's
Bonding Counsel to discuss this subject. He a'dded that he will then put in
writing the possibilities for the next 90-day review.
Chairman Laden stated that she felt ii."SinC.e' '~ti~ City h~S-expended' a ....
great deal of time and effort in putting this third parking district
together, that '?-.lr. Adams'-'fJs~"'of"Nri:A~a'f'~"k~6~v]'~'doe," if it'i3r0mot~s
· --tl~'e.jp~rk{~"g di.~t~i. Ct;' w. ouiH-"~e bT~n'e~fd'ia!:t0:.~he ~'~'~7~ sh.e."~'fat,e.d thd'~
...... -.- .-= .... . , · ....... ..._ · .
~.- . .. . -.~.~--~
j~h.e ~H'!.d sUgge~:~='{'H'~.'~j..~h~':'a~P'r0~'riate'pe0',le at the city.,
P~lanning Commission -.~. Page 10
Meeting Minutes 8/12/81
V-541 (cont.)
It was suggested to Mr. Adams titat some.striping of the pa'rking spaces
in. ti~e rear next to the barn and. behind tt~e Maddalena site be done.
Mr. Adams statea that he would be able to be more specific at the next
90--day review period, and hopefully will have some recommendations and
'possibilities. -.
COMMUN I CATI ONS
Oral
1. Commissioner Bolger moved' to h~ve the Planning Commission begin tl~e
process to amend the HCRD densfties to.conform with the NHD dens~i-
ties. Commissioner' Crowther se'conded t. he motion. DiscusSion followed
on' the process, and it was determined tl~at there should be a study
session on this s'ubject. Commi:ssioner Bolger altered his motion to
have this'subject agen'dized fo~ a study session no later than Septem-
ber 15, 1981, and agendized fo~ a public hearing at a later date, as
deemed appropriate. Commissioner Monia seconded the motion, which
was carried unanimously.
· 2. Chairman Laden thanked the Goo~ Government Group for attending the
meeting and serving coffee, and. also thanked Councilmember Clevenger
for attending'-
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Zambetti 'moved to adjourn th'e meeting in honor of Sherman Miller,
Editor o~ the Saratoga News, who recently' died. Commissj. oner K;ing seconded the
motion, which was carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 12:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
R.: S. Robinson, Jr.
'Secretary
RSR: cd :