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MINUTES
DATE: Wednesday, October 27, 1982 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE:' Regular Meeting
ROUT INE ORGANI ZAT ION
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Bolger, Hlava, Monia, Nellis, Schaefer and Siegfried
(Commissioner Monia arrived at 7:34 p.m.)
Absent: Commissioner Crowther
Minutes
On page 4 of the Minutes the correct spelling of Kathy McGoldrick's name was
noted. Commissioner Bolger moved to waive the reading of:..the minutes of
OCtober 13, 1982 and approve as amended. Commissioner Hlava seconded the
motion which was carried unanimously.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Recommendation to City Council to Modify Section 13.9-3 of the Subdivision
Ordinance, Requiring Rounding Down for Numbers of Dwelling Units
Commissioner Bolger moved, seconded by Commissioner Siegfried, to approve
the item listed above on the Consent Calendar. The motion was carried
unanimously 5-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2a. GF-342 - Amendment of the Zoning Ordinance by adopting Article 3C.
2b. C-201 Agricultural Preserve/Open Space Overlay District. This overlay
district will be combined wi'th the Northwestern Hillsides Resi-
dential District (NHR) on those parcels under Williamson Act
contracts. The parcels affected were previously zoned A (Agric
culture) and are under Williamson Act contracts. Amendments
will be per Article 18 of O~dinance NS-3; continued from October
13, 1982'
The Deputy City At'torney stated that he had r.eviewed the letter received
from Commissioner Crowther on this matter, which asked whether a rezoning
action would be required upon termination of the Williamson Act Contract.
He explained that the Government Code sections cited in Commissioner
Crowther's letter do refer to th'e process of amending the Zoning Ordinance,
but in those situations there would be 'a change from one permanent dis-
trict to another. He added that he finds nothing in the code and Zoning
Ordinance that prohi'bi'ts' in any way the classification which would expire
upon the happening of certain events' stipulated in the ordinance itself,
and he' has no problem with the way the ordinance is structured. He stated
that the classification of land is not being changed, and the circumstances
for termination of the overlay are set forth in the ordinance itself.
Staff noted that the overlay district itself adds no new regulations; it
merely emphasizes that the lands that are subject to Williamson Act Con-
tracts will remain subject to those conditions of the contracts.
The public hearing was opened at 7:38 p.m. No one appeared, and Commis-
sioner Siegfried moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner Monia
seconded the motion., which was carried unanimously.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to recommend approval of GF-342 to the City
Council, making the findings listed in the Staff Report. Commissioner
ltlava seconded the motion, which was. carried unanimously 6-0.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to recommend approval of C-201 to the City
Council, making the findings listed in the Staff Report. Commissioner
Monia seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously 6-0.
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3a.' Negative Declaration - ·SDR- 1526 - Longmeadow Development
3b. SDR-1526 - Longmeadow Development, R'equest for TentatiVe Subdivision
3c.-V-598 Approval for 3 lots at 14'270 DOuglass Lane, and Request for
Variance to retain the existing guest cottage and washroom,
pool, garage and shop building which would have nonconforming
· front, side and rear setbacks where 30 ' 15 ' and 45 ' respec-
tively are required
It was noted that there had been a petition received in opposition to the
project. Staff pointed out that this property now has tentative approval
for 2 lots. They stated that several: of the accessory structures on the
lot, because of the redefinition of the setbacks, now require variances.
· . Staff indicated that they have been able to make the findings for the ·pool
and main structure, but not for the other accessory structures.
The public hearing wa·s opened at 7:42z p.m.
John Griffin, one of the owners of th~ property, stated that they agreed
with the Staff Report, with the exception of the removal of the buildings.
He indicated that the garage is an integral part of the property, has
been there for many years,' and the· immediate neighbors do not object. He
described the buildings on the property.
Carolyn Corry, Durham Court, presented a new petition in opposition to the
project, noting that the other petiti·on referred to was an old one. She
noted the traffic and parking problems. She stated that they oppose the
lot split;· however, she urged the· Commission, if they do approve it, to
remove ·the ·second dwelling unit, wash. room, and rel·oca·te ·the garage.
Ben Johnston, 14210 Douglass Lane, stated that he had been instrumental in
closing Douglass Lane to 'through traffic, and the.character of the neighbor-
hood' is of great concern. He commented that they We're· led to understand
when the property wa·s sold to the applicant that it was 'going to be used
for two structures only, and that he was buying the house to ·set up resi-
dence for him and· his family.
Bob Woolsey, 19952 Durham Court, st·ated that Durham Court has been used
as a parking lot by the people 'living. in the cottage. He also commented
that the applicant would not be subdividing if he valued the historical
importance of the buildings. Mr. l~oolsey stated that he felt it would be
more important to remove the guest house than the· garage. He indicated that
he felt ·the parking problem would be solved if there were a fence across
the access to the guest house from Durham Lane, but he did not think it
would be feasible.
Bob ·Corry, 19930 Durham Court, inquired about the monitoring system for
the removal of the kitchen from the guest house. He also pointed out
that (1) If th'e 3 lots are approved, there will be a family living in the
guest house, which will total 4 dwellings; (2) The access to the parking
pad for the second dwelling unit is through ·his driveway and there has
been quite a parking problem on Durham Court; (3) increased traffic will
be a problem to the children in the· neighborhood. Mr. Corry also questioned
the historical value of the ·buildings~
Mr. Alleshouse ·stated that he lives· behind the Griffins and spoke in favor
of the project. He ·indicated that he preferred the garage to be ·where it
is, and he ·is the neighb·o·r that looks ·at it.
Pat Richard, Douglass Lane, addressed· the hist·orical value of the house
and stated that it would be ·ruined by·'.putting two additional lots. She
spoke to the increased traffic and accidents ·in the 'area.
Jean Johnston, 14210 Douglass, spoke in opposition to the project, stating
that the previous ·owners had told them when they sold that there would be
only one additional house built on the 'site.
Mr. Griffin suggested· the compromise of leaving the· garage in its present
location and removing the guest house..
Commissioner Moni·a moved to close the 'public hearing. Commissioner
Siegfried seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
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SDR- 1526 and V- 598 (cont.)
Staff clarified that the subdivision'was previous'ly granted with a 2 ft.
setback for the garage because of the difference of interpretation of the
previous City Attorney and the current one, as to how existing structures
with existing property lines are treated as opposed to property lines
being newly created. They noted that the access has also been redefined,
which redefines the setbacks.
Commissioner Monia stated that he had trouble making the findings for the
variance for the garage with a 2 ft. setback, since there is so much
available land to relocate the garage.
Commissioner Hlava disagreed, stating that she felt it would be difficult
to reconstruct the garage since the' site slopes greatly downhill. She
commented that she had no problem with the garage in its present location,
since it has had a 2 ft. setback for many years and the immediate neighbors
don't object.
Commissioner Nellis indicated that he had no particular problem with the
present location of the garage. He stated that, since the applicant is
agreeable to moving the guest cottage, wh'ich'has caused most of the problem
within the neighborhood, he could support the variance for the garage and
pool.
Commissioner Siegfried agreed and moved to approve V-598, making the find-
ings only as to the pool, the main structure and the garage, on the basis
that (1) the structures have been the're for years, and (2) because of the
slope of the land there may not be a reasonable place to reconstruct the
garage. He added that he could not make the findings for the wash room
and guest cottage. Commissioner Hlava seconded the motion, which was
carried 4-2, with 'Commissioners Bolger and Monia dissenting. It was noted
that the garage is in no way to be changed into a dwelling unit.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to deny the variance request as to the wash
room and guest cottage. Commissioner Monia seconded the motion, which ~as
carried unanimously 6-0.
Commissioner Siegfried commented' that he .feels that there is no basis to
deny the request for Building Site Approval. He moved to approve SDR-1526,
subject to the conditi'ons of the variance and the Staff Report. Commis-
sioner Monia seconded the motion, which was carried 5-1, with Commissioner
Bolger dissenting.
Commissi'oner Siegfried moved to approve the Negati've Declaration for
SDR-1526. Commissioner Hlava seconded the motion, which was carried
5-1, with Commissioner Bolger dissenting.
MISCELLANEOUS
4. General Plan Land Use Map and the Timet'able for General 'Plan Completion
Staff explained that at this mee'ting~the Commission should take 'formal
votes on those' parcels where a cOns.ensus 'had been reached, and review the
timetable for completion of the General Plan.
Cmnmissioner Nellis discussed #38 regarding the Abrams property. He
stated that he wondered if there might be another possible use for that
site other th~n administrative offices, wh'ich would perhaps generate even
less traffic. He suggested that 'a motel might be a suitable use, which
would also provide some 'additional revenue for the City. He indicated
that there were people representing the area that may wish to speak on
this matter'.
Discussion followed on Uses for the site. Staff stated that the Commis-
sion could specify as part of the P-D designation the sorts of uses they
would like and also performance standards. They indicated that the P-D
category would have to be cre~ted again in the"General Plan to accQmplish
that. They' added that 'the Commission would have maximum flexibility via
the use permit procedure.
Commissioner Hlava commen'ted that she would like that procedure to be
used, not just.for thi's si'te, but 'some of the school sites that are either
vacant now' or' might' be in the 'future~ She added that she feels that there
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General Plan Land Use Map and Timetab'le'(.cont.)
are very few ways in which there is t'he flexibility needed in some very
difficult situations. Commissioner Hlava stated that she would like to
reintroduce some kind of P-D desi'gnation into the' General Plan.
Commissioner Monia stated that he t'otally disagreed. He commented that,
even tho'ugh he is in favor of some other kind of development that could
be allowed in a P-A area, he supports that area because of what the
citizens have spoken to and the 'probl'ems that have occurred in the past
with P-D. He added that the P-D does~ give a great deal of flexibility,
but he feels that the applications wijll be ones that are inconsistent
with what the present neighborhood wa'nts.
Joan'Faunce, President of the E1 Quit'o Homeowners Association, discussed
the survey they'had done, Stating that the neighbors are still concerned
ab'out traffic. She indicated that.she felt that a lot of the people in
the. survey had not attended.the General Plan meeting and don't have as
b'road a concept of the area as those who did attend.
Terry Griswold inquired about the tra'ffic relative to the suggested motel.
It. was the general consensus that #38~ should remain as Commercial P-A,
and if an application is submitted that is compatible with the neighbor-
hood, then the General Plan could be 'changed.
Parcels #5 and #6 were discussed, and changed to re'ad "Gateway-Landscaped-
Commercial"
Discussion followed on the items to be approved. Item #38 was removed
for a separate vote. Commissioner Siegfried moved to approve the items
designated On pages 1-6 of the Staff Report of October 20, 1982 with an
asterisk, as amended, with the 'exception of #38. Commissioner Monia
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously 6-0.
Commiss.ioner Siegfried moved to approve #38 as Commercial-P-A. Commis-
sioner Monia seconded the' motion, which was carried 4-1, with Commissioner
Hlava dissenting and Commissioner Nellis abstaining, stating that he would
like to see wh~t the neighborhood would like to have on that site.
The timetable for the completion of the General Plan was reviewed and
approved. It was noted that there will be study sessions on November 2,
1982 and November 23, 1982 at 7:00 p.m., and November 30, 1982 at 7:30 p.m.
5. Donald Fearnside, 14147 Ten Acres Court, Tract 4193, Lot 3, Request for
Site Modification Approval to construct a two'-story accessory structure
and a pool on a site of over 10% in slope'
staff clarified that th~ slope of thejsite is 25%. They described the
proposal, noting that the City Geologist has reviewed the plans and has
recommended approval of the' accessory. structure only.
RiChard Moldovan, the architect, described the existing structure and
proposal.
Beverly Fearnside, the applicant, s~oke to the proposal. She discussed
the gra'ding tha't had been done on the'site.
Commissioner Monia commented that he has no problem with this site.; however,
he feels 'that the Commission h~s'to' address in t.he future the controlling
of second buildings on properties' that could be used.as a rental or possi-
ble conversion into a second structure.
~ommi~sioner Monia'moved to approve Site Modification Approval for Tract 4193,
Ikoo~" 3','~.F th'e 'a"c'~e~s.~'y' S~-ruc'~re 6~y,..'p.~ the"'.S~a.~f Re~ort ~'t'ea"OCt'~ber
21, 1982. Co'mm~f~sioher' Siegfried seconded the ~otion'~ ~h"~ch ~as 'c~arried
unanimously 6-0.
COmmUNICATIONS
Written
1. 'Letter' from SaratOga Foothills dated 9-23-82, regarding UP-353(a).
Staff reported that the 'letter' is required as a condition of the' use permit.
Discussion followed'. on' qualifications for living at Park Saratoga and enforcement
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0f the requirements.
Oral
1. A brief report was given on the City Council meeting held on October
20, 1982. A copy of the minutes of thi's ~meeting is on file 'in the City
Administration Office.
'2. The pathway on Carnelian Glen' was discussed.
3. Chairman Schaefer thanked the Good Government Group for attending
and serving coffee and Mayor Callon for attending the 'meeting.
ADJOURNMENT ..
CommiSsioner Monia moved to adjourn the n~eeting. Commissioner Siegfried
seconded the motion, wh'ich was carried un'animously. The 'meeting was adjourned
at 9:20 p.m.
Secretary
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