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DATE: Wednesday, January 11, 1984 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
ROUTINE ORGANIZATI'ON
Roll Call
Present: Commissioner's Crowther, Hlava, McGoldrick, Nell|s, Peterson,
Schaefer and Siegfried
Absent: None
Minutes
Commissioner Hlava moved to waive the 'reading of the minutes of DeC'ember 14,
1983 and approve as distributed. Commissioner McGoldrick seconded the
motion, which wa's carried, wi'th Commissi'oner Nellis abstaining since he was
not present at the meeting.
Annual Reorganization
Commissioner Siegfried stated that' (1) he wonders why the annual reorgani-
zation is |held at the first meeting in January, when new Commission members
come on at the second meeting or later, and (2) there has been a long-stand-
ing unwritten policy that neither' the Chair or Vice Chair would serve dur-
ing the year in which 'she' or he chose to be a candidate for office. He
suggested, be.cause 'of the change in election from April to June in 1982,
that the reorganization be in April rather than January. After further
discussion he moved to postpone the reorganization of the Planning Commis-
sion until the first meeting in April, with the present Chair and Vice Chair
continuing to serve until that time. Commissioner Hlava seconded the motion,
which carried 5-2, with Commissioners Nellis and Schaefer dissenting.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissione'r Crowther removed Items 1, 2 and 3 for discussion. Commissioner
Hlava moved to approve the balance of the items listed below. Commissioner
McGoldrick seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously 7-0.
4. SDR-1480.- K. D. Daniel, Pierce Road, Request for One-Year Extension of
Contract for Improvement Agreement
5. V-601 - G. McLaUghlin (Brown), 20264 Ljepava, Request for One-Year
Extension
Discussion followed on Items 1, 2 and 3, the Requests for One-Year Extensions
for SD-13S5, SD-1356 and SD-1368. Commissioner Crowther asked the City
Attorney if the tentative maps are consistent with the General Plan. The
City Attorney answered that the tentative maps are the original tentative maps
that were in place and all three of them are now a subject of litigation.
He explained tha't the City Council, after adoption of the Specific Plan and
Zoning Ordinance, also passed a resolution indicating that if conditions of
any pre-existing tentative map were satisfied under court decisions, an
appl..~cant might be entitled to a final map, but that does not necessarily
give them the right to a building permit. He commented that discussions
with all of these developers are underway and in his view it is necessary
for the 'tentative map to be continued, as other tentative maps in similar
situations have been continued. He explained that the approval of the exten-
sion is a procedure under the Subdivision Map Act and the City ordinance
which specifies the expiration date. He added that the maps are not con-
sistent with the General Plan as it now exists, in that they would call for
a density |higher than wha. t would be authorized under the present Specific
Plan. However, ther'e is a litigation issue involved in these maps which is
being dealt with. He stated that if Commissioner Crowther is talking about
strict compliance with the Specific Plan and the Zoning Ordinance for t'he
NHR district, the compliance must be at the time the building permit is
issued. Therefore, the extension of an expiration date on a tentative map,
or for that matter if the' applicant simply went ahead and filed the final map,
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SD-1355, SD-1356 and SD-1368 (cont.)
does not necessarily guarantee the issuance of a building permit unless
there is some other agreement with the City, which there is not!at the
moment.
Commissioner Crowther commented that·he thought there is a section of the
Government Code which requires that the City not approve any tentative· map
which is inconsistent with the General Plan. The City Attorney ·explained
that that would relate to the initial approval. He stated that he does not
view this continuation as an apprOVal and, in fact, it should be clear on the
record that the .~'eH~i.~'Of't'H~"e~piration dates of the tentati've maps does
not constitute any new or additional approval by the City.
Commissioner McGoldrick moved to approve Items 1, 2 and 3 listed below.
Commissioner Siegfried seconded the motion. Commissioner Crowth'er commented
that he would vote against this, since he can not believe that i't is in the
City's best interest to extend these maps, and he also believes ~it might be
in violation of part of the Government Code. The motion was carried 6-1,
with Commissioner Crowther dissenting.
1. SD-1355 - Heber Teerlink (Lambert), Mt. Eden Road, Tentative. Subdivision
Approval, 25 Lots, Request for a One-Year Extension
2. .SD~1356 - Anthony Cocciardi, Mt. Eden Road, Tentative Subdivis.ion
Approval, 23 Lots, Request for One-Year Extension
3. SD-1368 -· Anthony Cocciardi and Alan Chadwick, Mt. Eden Road·, Tentative
Subdivision' A~proval, 11 Lots, Request for One-Year Extension
PUBLIC HEARINGS
.6. V-541 - Joseph Brozda (B~lla~MZ~a.'~')'~, Request for Continuance~of Variance
Approval from r~uir~d parking for a restaurant use at 14503
Big Basin Way, in a C-C zOning'district; continued from December
14, 1983)
7a. V-627 - Joseph Brozda, Request for Variance Approval to allow the creation
7b. A-926 - of 15 parking spaces that do not comply with City Parking Space
Design Standards and would provide fewer spaces thanirequired by
ordinance (at least 20 spaces would be required) andsRequest for
Design Review Approval of parking deck and exterior ~odificat~on
to barn at northwest corner of Third Street and Big Basin Way;
continued from December 14, 1983
Since the public hearing had been closed on this matter and there were people
present to speak on·it, Commissioner Siegfried moved to reopen the public
hearing. Commissioner Nellis seconded the motion, which was carried unani-
mously.
· The public hearing was reopened at 7:40 p.m.
Staff commented that they had determined that no new windows on the rear
elevation and the'side elevation facing Third Street would.b~'p'e~mitted"'."~-~.
under the Uniform Building Code, and suggested that a condition be add·ea'··'to
that effect under the DeSign Review.
Doug Adams, attorney representing the Brozdas, introduced John Mallen, the
attorney representing the tenant. Mr. Adams indicated that they are in agree-
ment and are trying to work out a solution through Option #1, i.e., giving
up the studio apartment and working out the other five spaces within the
restaurant through Mr. Mallen's suggestions.
Mr. Mallen described the present dining area at the Bella Mia Restaurant.
He proposed an accordian type of dining, with no outdoor dining in the months
of No.Vember, December, January and February, and that there be· nO dining at
all in the interior dining room whenever the outside dining area·is full.
The enforcement of this suggestion was discussed. Mr. Mallen gave the history
of the restaurant, stating that he felt it was a real credit to the Village.
Bruce Nicholson, consultant, submitted a picture showing the development of
the'back end of the barn and discussion followed on this.
Wayne Faree, geotechnical consultant from Terratech, addressed the geological
part of the project, indicating that he did not feel. there was a~problem.
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V~541,'V-627 and A-926 (cont.)
He discussed the slope and the proposed piers. He commented that the project
will decrease the slope and will greatly enhance the stability and strength
of it. He added that he sees no difficulty in strengthening the structure.
'Staff discussed the parking ratios for dining and the enforcement of Mr.
Mallen's proposal for dining.
At Commissioner McGoldrick's request, Don Eagleston, representing the Village
Merchants Association, di'scussed their reaction to. the var~ance.~ He stated
that Bella Mia's and outdoor dining has been very well accepted bY the Village.
He indicated that he understands the need for complying wi'th ordinances and
the extremeness of this situation and the unusual circumstances. He commented
that both the Brozdas and Bella Mia's appear to be willing to sacrifice and
deintensify their use. Mr. Eagleston added that the parking deck has been
accepted by everone. He stated that when Parking District #1 went in they
failed to put any access to the Village, so the proposal to put in the parking
ramp is also alleviating that parking problem and would be the applicant's
donation to the City for the exchange of the variance. He indicated that they
had no problem with the new size of the parking spaces, and he feels that
other people in the Village will be coming in for the smaller parking stall
sizes. He added, however, that he feels that, in legal limitations, they are
entitled to ask for that also.
Commissioner Peterson. commented that there would be only a 6" difference on
either side and he sees that as no significant issue. Commissioner Hlava
indicated that she would be perfectly willing to look~'at'.~hat size as a
standard for the whole Village.
Commissioner Crowther commented that he probably could not grantZthe variance
if it were not for the stairway. However, he thinks the Commission is not
setting a precedent because the applicant is giving the stairway down to
Parking District #1 in return for the granting of the variance. Mr. Eagleston
commented that granting a variance 'in an unusual situation of this type does
not set a precedent for other people in the Village in other situations.
Commissioner Crowther moved to close the= public hearing. CommisSioner Hlava
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commissioner McGoldrick commented that, if the accordian dining room area
is the wish of the entire Planning Commission, she would like to.see some sort
of permanent sign to that effect inside 'the restaurant, which would ensure
less policing and people would be awa're of the policy. CommissiOner Schaefer
asked about policing and possible fines.'
The City Attorney noted that there soon will be a Code Enforcement Officer
and the City will be adopting an ordinance 'for enforcement through citations.
He stated that the Commission can certainly condition the variance so that
if the."poli~y .~.s violated, in addition to other remedies that may be available
to the City, including review and possible revocation of the variance, the
applicant would be subject to a citation wi'th a monetary fine involved.
Commissioner Hlava commented that Mr. Eagleston was very persuasive. She
stated that she had not thought about the stairway down to Parking Lot #1 as
part of a tradeoff situation, and she can see that that might be somewhat
beneficial. She added that she still cannot make the findings for the excep-
tion to the Subdivision Ordinance, for what is essentially an intensification
of use. She commented that she thinks that it is important to realize that
the Brozdas, because of some of the uses on their property predating some of
the current ordinances, already have more intense use on their p~operty than
would today be allowed with the amount of parking available.
Commissioner NelliS indicated that he has had an opportunity to listen to
public testimony, study carefully the Staff~eport, visit the'~i't'e, and read
the minutes of the last meeting. He stated that he agrees with the sentiments
expressed by Commissioners Crowther and Siegfried at the last me~ting and
contained in the minutes of December 14, 1983. He moved to approve V-627,
per Exhibits "B" and "B-I", making the findings for the exception to the
Subdivision Ordinance, with the stipulation that the applicant use the property
so that no more than 15 parking spaces are required by ordinance.~ In addition,
the applicant shall provide a stairway, in addition to the fire exit stair-
way proposed, which will connect the subject property with Parking District
#1. The location of the stairway shall be submitted for Staff review and
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V-541, V-627 and A-926 (cont.) ~
approval, and if there 'are any violations determined by Staff, these viola-
tions shall be reported to the Planning Commission for appropriate action.
At Commissioner' Crowther's suggestion, Commissioner Nellis amended his motion
to indicate that it be 'a well lighted stairway, and that both the location
and design of the stairway shall be submitted to Staff. Commissioner
Peterson seconded the motion.
The City Attorney discussed the procedure for the issuance of citations
for violations. He suggested that a condition be added to the variance,
stating "The property shall be used so that no combination of uses will require
more than 15 parking spaces. Any violation of this condition would be deemed
a violation of the Zoning Ordinance"of a kind that would enable the Community
Services Officer to issue 'a citation." Commissioners Nellis and Peterson
accepted that amendment.
Commissioner Hlava pointed out that th'er'e is an equity problem here, in terms
of other merchants in the Village. 'She stated that the 'City has firmly stuck
to requirements for existing merchants and existing commercial development,
and even minor intensification of the'i'r use has resulted in their having to
go out and find parking spaces.
~t"C0mM~Si0ner's Siegfried request, Staff clarified that the same method
of counting and coming up to the requirement for 15 spaces would~be used
anywhere else in the Village in the same situation, and would not be setting
a precedent. Commissioner Nellis commented that up until now the applicant
has not provided the required parking places, and when this deck is built
they will meet that requirement.
The City Attorney clarified to Commissioner Peterson that, in the future if
there is an In Lieu Ordinance, at that time the applicant can come 'back with
a request for parking if they want to do something with the barn!and studio,
and it would be within the discretion of the Commission to approve it or not.
Commissioner McGoldrick stated that she had previously voted no on this matter
because she could not make the findings for the exception to theZSubdivision
Ordinance. She explained that she feels that the geologist and Mr. Eagleston
have solved her problems with that so sh.e can make the findings, and will be
voting for the application.
Commissioner Schaefer stated that she feels.very strongly against this project
because she does not feel that the parking deck as proposed would be safe in
a tremor. She added that people.wHo=shOp du.~ing'the. day downtown using large
wagons have told her they would not go in there to park. She stated that
Staff has recommended against it and she would be voting against the applica-
tion. ~
The vote'was taken to approve V-629. The motion w~s carried 5-2', with
Commissioners Schaefer and Hlava dissenting.
Commissioner Crowther moved to approve A-926, per the Staff Report dated
December 5, 1983 and Exhibits "C" and "D", adding a condition that there be
no new wall openings on the rear elevation and. the elevation facing Third
Street. Commissioner Nellis seconded the motion, which was carried 5-2,
with Commissioners Hlava and Schaefer dissenting. Commissioner Schaefer
commented that she still feels very strongly in favor of the restaurant por-
tion of Bella Mia's continuing; it was the rest of the way that the problem
was solved that she does not agree with.
There was a consensus that, instead of having a sign in the restaurant
regarding the seating, the restaurant can come back to Staff with a proposal
as to how they are going to notify the public. It was noted that V-541 has
been r~placed by the new variance application V-629.
8. A-910 S. Tyler and G. Kocher (Duke of Wellington), Request. for Design
· Review Approval to enclose an existing dining patio at 14572
Big Basin Way; continued from December 14, 1983 =
It was directed that this be continued to January 25, 1984, at the request
of the applicants. No one appeared to address the Commission.
~She added that she a~so' has 'a concern about the accuracy of the scale of the
drawings for the' landscaping that is.",going to cover the decking in the back
and the general safety of the deck.
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'9. A-924 - Mr. and Mrs. Barr, Request for Design Review Approval to con-
struct a two-story single family residence on the Southeast
corner of Allendale Avenue and Camino Barco, in the R-i-40,000
zoning district; continued from December 14, 1983 =
Chairman Schaefer noted that she had received a phone call from !Mr. Barco,
stating that he felt the. residence was too large and not in keeping with the
general neighborhood. She also noted a letter from Mr. Wilson in opposition
and one from E. A. Maus in favor of the proposal. ~
Staff 'described the proposal and the site. They commented that they cannot
make all of the necessary findings and are recommending denial. Commissioner
Siegfried gave a Land Use Committee report, describing the lot. He indicated
that the Barrs had said they would be prepared.to mo~e the home .back so the
frontyard setback would be 10 ft. greater, in order to widen the viewshed-
area from the Wilson home across the street. He commented that.the basic
issue is .the size of the home, and there are no two-story houses. immediately
around the site. Commissioner McGoldrick added that the house will not ob-
struct the majority of the ~Vilsons"'~iew.
The public hearing was opened at 8:45 p~m.
Mr. Barr gave a presentation on the project, stating that Mr. Kosich, the
.owner of the lot, had indicated that there would be no problem with a two-
story house. He explained that they had canvassed the neighborhood and
submitted signatures of the neighbors in favor. Mr. Barr indicated that
they had decided to move the house back 10 ft. after talking to Mr. Wilson
and would give him the chance to approve any type of landscaping on the side.
The size of the'other homes in the area was discussed. CommissiOner Schaefer
inquired about the' possible conversion of the storage area. Both Mr.. Barr
'and Marty Oakley, the designer, commented that there was no intention to
develop the area.over the garage.
Mr. Graham wilson, Allendale Avenue,. across from the proposed residence,
referenced his letter in opposition to the proposal. He commented that he
was opposed to t. he size and feels it will change the character of the whole
neighborhood He clarified that'he feels that a two-story structure .~o~id,~'~-'/,
compliment the surrounding houses, even.though mitigating measures were done,
i.e., lowering the house or moving it back.
Commissioner'Nellis moved to close the public hearing. CommissiOner Siegfried
seconded the motion, which was c~rried unanimously. ~
Commissioner Siegfried. stated that he was inclined to vote' for the applica-
tion. He indicated that he shares Mr. Wilson's concern about th~ size and
questionsthe appropriateness of the two-story.. However, he thinks that in
the.reality of today and the kind of homes that are being built on 40,000
sq. ft. lots, a home of 4500 sq. ft.' that was a single story would have just
as much, if not a greater impact on the neighborhood because it would appear
'much larger in terms of the property it took up. ~
Commissioner Crowther commented that he agrees with the Staff Report's
comments relating to findings 3 and 4, and he will vote against the appli-
cation. He added that if it were moved back 10 ft. or made slightly lower
it would ~o'~ '~ak'~ a= jdiffere~ce-.. =
Commissioner Nellis agre~'d with Commissioner Crowther and Staff.. He stated
that he might feel differently if there were a hillside lot and it was tucked
away somewhere. HoweVer, this is a highly visible corner lot on:Allendale
and he believes the home will change the character of the neighborhood.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to approve A-924, on the condition that the home
be moved back 10 ft. so that the front yard setback would be 67 ft. instead
of 57 ft. He stated that he can make the findings on the basis of looking
at the totality.of the homes on Camino ~arco. FIe commented that~ while it
i's one of the very few two-story homes, they are basically pretty large homes.
He added that the ho'mes across the street are by no means as large; however,
he believes it'is always the problem of whe're you draw the final.line.
Commissioner Hlava seconded the motion.
Commissioner' McGoldrick 'st'~'~d" ~hat' she would vote no on ti~iS, ~ " 0~'gi~..' ....
.... . .. . e~en th
she does not see a proble~ to Mr. Wilson and feels"that a single .story house
is going to take up far much more room and make people far more Unhappy. She
added .that if it were wi'thi'n the 'standards she would vote for it.~=,,-j' ""_ ......
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A-924 (cont.)
Commissioner Peterson commented that he feels eliminating. 500 ft. probably
is not going to make that much difference, so he will vote in favor of the
application.
The vote was taken to approve A-924. The motion failed 4-3, with Commissioners
Nellis, Crowther, McGoldrick and Schaefer dissenting.
Commissioner Schaefer commented that she agrees with Commissioner MCGoldrick.
She stated that the standard guideline was reached after much turmoil, and
if that were met, the house moved back 10 ft., and also lowered 4 ft., then
she would be in agreement with the motion. She added that she feels that
the two-story is definitely something that makes a lot of sense today, even
though many of the neighborho'ods are single story. She noted that the style
of this home has a lot of potentially usable extra space, and whether the
applicant uses it or not, someone i.n the' future will use it for resale value,
if for nothing else.
Discussion followed on the applicant bringing a new proposal to a study
session, showing the house 'to be no higher than 26 ft., within the 6200 sq.
ft. guideline, and moved back 10 ft. The applicant commented that the pad
is now 4 ft. from Mr. Wilson's lot, but 'it is not 4 ft. from the street level.
Commissioner Schaefer commented that the elevation should be considered from
the street level, and clarified that the bulk of the appearance should be
reduced. It was explained to the applicant that he can either bring in a
modified plan-~'o'the"Commis'si6n .l~'y Monday, for their consideration on January
17th, or they can appeal to the City Council. The City Attorney explained
that the motion was to approve and it failed; it is clearly a denial. He
stated that if the applicant wants to preserve the right for an appeal he
would suggest that they file the appeal and then continue it at the City Coun-
cil level if they wish to engage in further dialogue with the Commission. He
added that the Planning Commission can always reconsider the action taken
tonight. He commented that the applicant can send a letter tO thi~.effect,
and if the' Commission approves the design as modified the appeal can be with~
drawn.
10. A-927 Wilson Development, Inc., Request for Design Review Approval to
construct nine (9) single family residences at the terminus of
Tricia Way (east side of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, 150 ft. south
of Blauer Drive), in an R-1-12,500 zoning district
Staff explained the application, recommending approval. The fencing was dis-
cussed.
Dave Wilson, the applicant, gave a presentation on the project. He addressed
Condition #2, regarding the sound barrier. He explained that the consultant's
report was done in 1981 and was done on a different subdivision than this one.
He explained the difference in the two subdivisions and requested that the
Commission allow Staff to review and determine how far back the soundwall
should go. Regarding Condition #6, he stated that he has no objection to the
requirement for a Landscape Agreement with the City, but objects to both
Conditions #6 and #7, requiring him to participate in the formation of a
Landscape and Lighting Assessment District. Regarding #10, concerning the
requirement for 30% of the homes to have curved driveways with garages facing.
the side, Mr. Wilson stated that he believes that the ordinance speaks to
subdivisions of a different character. He explained that they have no corners
and discussed the'proposed designs. He pointed out that this condition would
automatically drastically increase the amount of impervious coverage..."~fter""
'.ais.dussi'on of this requirement there was a consensus to remove Condition #10.
Staff explained the Landscape and Lighting Assessment District. After dis-
cussion of Condition #7 it was determined that this condition would supersede
the requirement for a Homeowners Association to maintain the landscaping.
Further discussion followed on Condition #2 regarding the sound barrier.
It was the consensus that the wall should go all the way along Lot ~6.. The
triangle of landscaping on the outside on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road w~s_.diS7
cussed, and ~r. Wilson indicated that the map did not show i-t,'bUt .riley'have
offered to do this. The landscaping was discussed, and Staff was requested
to review it, specifically the eucalyptus trees.
Commissioner Nellis moved to'close the public hearing. Commissioner McGoldrick
seconded the mot~,on, which was carried unanimously.
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A-927 (cont.) '
Commissioner Siegfried moved to approve A-927, per the Staff Report dated
January 5, 1984 and Exhibits "B" through "T", with Condition #2 remaining
· as written, requiring the wall to go all the'Way along the northern property
line of Lot 6, allowing for the' triangle of landscaping to be on the out-
side on Saratoga-Sunnyvale 'Road, deleting Condition #10, and adding to
Condition #7 that the requirement for the applicant to enter into an agree-
ment to participate in the formation of a Landscape and Lighting Assessment
District will supersed'e any Homeowners Association requirement to maintain
the landscaping. .Commissioner McGoldrick 'se'conded.the motion, which was
carried unanimously 7-0.
11. A-928 - Dwayne Richards, Request for DeSign Review Approval to construct
a split level single family residence at 14012 Palamino Way,
in the NHR z'o'n'ing d'i'strict
Staff noted' that this item should be continued to allow more geological work
to.be done. The"public hearing was opened at 9:14 .p.m.
Mrs. YVonne Ching, Mt. Eden Court, next door to this site, questioned build-
ing a house on this lot in. view of the massive landslide in that area a few
years ago.. She addressed the drainage problem, stating that Mr. Richards!
water would h~ve to be drained down to Mt. ,Eden Court, which is a private
road. She indicated that t~ey have spent considerable money just to maintain
that road and put it b~ck in. Mrs. Ching was requested to discuss the
application and plans with.Staff,~and Staff is to give Mrs. Ching a copy of
the report from the City GeologiSt when' it is completed.
It was directed that this matter be Continued to the meeting of February
22, 1984.
Break 9:20 ='9:35 p.m.
1.2~'.'~.~929 Richard Merwin, Request for Design Review Approval and Build-
SDR-1558 - ing Site Approval to construct a single story residence at-
14466 Sobey Road, in an R-I-40,000 zoning district
It was directed that this matter be continued to January 25, 1984, to allow
for renoticing of new plans by the applicant..
13. A-931 - Phillip Bray, Request for Design Review Approval to construct
a two-story addition to an.existing two-story, single family
dwelling at 21459 Saratoga Hills Road, in the R-I-40,000 zoning
~ district
Staff described the proposal, recommending approval. Commissioner Siegfried
gave a Land Use Committee Report, stating that there was no impact on any
neighbors and it will be quite an improvement to the appearance of'.the home.
The public hearing was opened at 10:12 p.m.
Warren Heid, architect, submitted a letter from Chief Kraule, indicating
.that he would a~'roV~ a 24 ft. radius. Discussion followed on this con-
dition, ConditioH'#~4,'.and also on Condition #3 concerning the driveway.
Commissioner Crowther moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner Hlava
seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commissioner Crowther moved to approve~A-931, subject to the Staff Report
dated.December 22, 1984 and Exhibits "B", "C" and "D", amending Condition
#3 to read" Construct the new driveway.14 feet minimum width, plus one foot
Shoulders using double seal coat O & S or better on 6" Aggregate Base from
access road to proposed dwelling, s'Ubject to Fire District a~proval.", and
modifying Conditi'on #4 ~o read 24 ft. instead o'f 42 ft.,'a~d ~d'ding'~'that'_this
~hal'!"~'o~piy ~.th~the.~Onditions listed in Chief Kraule's letter of January
~1, 1984. Commissioner Nellis' seconded the motion, which was carried unani-
mously 7-0.
14. SD-1557 - Pinn .Brother's Const. Co., RequeSt for Tentative Subdivision
Approval to crea'te 15 lots on the 5.72 acre parcel on the north
side 'of Verde Vista Lane 'across from TanwOrth 'Ave. (Horticul-
t'ural"Fo'u'n'd'ation prop'er'ty)'- and Negative' Declaration
Staff explained the application. They commented that the cul-de-sac exceeds
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SD- 1.557 (cont.)
the SO0 ft. maximum length.; how. ever, there is no other' practical way to
develop the property. Discussion,followed on a possible 'condition for one-
story homes only and the elevation of' the 'pads for Lots #9 and #10. It
was the consensus not ~to Conditionth.eBuilding Site' Approval for one-story
homes.
The public hearing was opened at 10:25 p.m.
Levon Gulesserian, 20646 Sevilla Lane, asked about the height of the house
on Lot #8. Mr. Pinn, the applicant, discussed the height of it, indicating
that the 'roof line will be 6 feet bel'ow Mr. Gulesser'ian's home. After
further' discussion it was 'the consensus that the house on Lot #8 shall be
no higher than 19 ft.
Lucy Applebaum, SeVilla Lane, indicated' that she "lives behind Lot #10. She
asked about the fill and adressed the drainage problem in that area. Staff
commented that, with the installation of the street and storm drain improve-
ments, a great quantity of the storm water will be collected and put in an
underground system. They' noted that they will be reviewing the area to try
to minimize the drainage e~en further. Mrs. Applebaum discussed an overhead
utility pole 'that she had been told would previously be moved. It was noted
that this pole is covered in Condition II-D-3.
Marvin Kirkeby, civil engineer, discussed the fill and drainage on Lots #9 and
#10.
Commissioner Peterson asked about new .fences on Lots #8, #9 and #10. It was
noted that there is no condition requiring this. However, Mr. Pinn commented
that if the property owners will take out their old fence, he usually puts
new ones up. Mr. Kirkeby commented that from a drainage standpoint, the
existing wall that is on th.e'.'Se'villa Lane side of the fence will have to 'go
in order to ~'O improvements. He added that they will make the grading
conform and ~ill need the cooperation of the neighbors.
Earl Johnson, Verde Vista Lane, asked if a traffic study ]Lad b'een done on
Verde Vista. Staff indicated that one ]Lad been submitted with the application,
which shows that there will be no significant impact.
Commissioner Hlava moved to close' the public hearing. 'Commissioner McGoldrick
seconded the motion, wh'ich was carried unanimously.
Commissioner. Siegfried moved to approve the Negative Declaration for SD-1557.
Commissioner Hlava seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously 7-0.
.Commissioner Siegfried moved to approve SD-1557, per the Staff Report dated
January S, 1984 and Exhibit "B-i", adding to Condition VIII-C that "the
residence on Lot 8 shall be a-maximum of 19 ft. in height." Commissioner
Hlava seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously 7-0.
15. S. DR-1559 Mrs. K. Pittman, Request for Tentative Map Approval for three
(3) lots (two new dwellings) at 14545 Fruitvale Avenue, in
the R-i-40,000 zoning district
Staff' described the project, recommending approval. They noted that the
following modifications should be made to the Staff Report: Condition II-E-2
should read R-36 instead of V-24, under Condition II-E-4, add "as required by
the Undergrounding Ordinance of the City", and add to Condition III-C-2 that
"A berm or other drainage system along the north side of the property shall
be required to prevent surface runoff from crossing onto the Frye property.
This is to be approved by the Director of Community Development."
The public hearing was opened at 10:53 p.m.
Bill Heiss, engineer, addressed the conditions of the Staff Report. He
discussed Condition II-E, and noted that there is an existing pole that goes
down Fruitvale Avenue which has not been undergrounded' by anyone. He stated
that it seems inappropriate to require it to be undergrounded in this parti-
cular case. He commented that, regarding Condition II-E-1, he reads it as ""
widening Fruitvale Avenue to be '20 ft. beyond existing center line. He
explained that presently the existing center line in front of this residence
is 20 ft. from the proper'ty line. 't-I~ ~.Stated that ther'e are t|~r_ce' .poles'.".
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just behind the existing pavement which would then have to be moved. He
questioned if it'-"is"appropriate to widen thi's road additionally. Discussion
followed on the 'requirement for' widening Fruitvale.' Staff noted that there
are 60 KV lines running down Fruitvale Avenue. They state'd that those are
not required to be undergrounded by anyone, even if the pole have to be
moved. However, in the~past'where 'there is a combination of 60 KV lines
which are not distribution' lines 'to the fronting properti'es', and also 12 KV
lines on the same 'poles', the City has required'that those '12 KV lines be
undergrounded'. After'further discussion it was the 'consensus to leave the
conditi'on in the"Staff Report as written.
Mr. Heiss asked for consider'ation of h~ving to underground the existing
overhead utility line 'that cr'oss'es Fruitvale Avenue 'and serves properties
on the easter'n side of Fruitvale. After' further discussion it was the con-
sensus of the 'Planning Commission that the 'applicant did not need to under-
ground that particular overhead line.
Commissioner McGoldrick moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Hlava seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commissioner McGoldrick moved to approve SDR-1559, per the Staff Report
dated December 29, 1983 and Exhibit "B-I", with the proposed changes in
Conditions II-E-2 and III-C-2. The motion was carried 6-1, with Commis-
sioner Schaefer dissenting. She commented that she was in favor of the
proposal but is against widening Fruitvale..'
16. V-629 - Ralph Renna, Request for Design Review Approval for a second
A-920 - story addition to a single family residence and Variance
Approval for balconies which do not maintain the required
sideyard setback at 15041 Sobey Road in an R-i-40,000 zoning
district
Staff explained the applications. They indicated that they could not make
the findings for the variance and recommends denial. They commented that
they can make the findings for the Design Review with the elimination of the
balconies. Commissioner McGoldrick referenced the letter from Mr. Hess
and asked for clarification of the role of the inspector.
The City Attorney commented that'they have addressed this subject in prior
correspondence to Mr. Renna's counsel. He stated that, as far as he ~s
concerned, it is not the duty or ~bligation of the inspector to look for
areas in which someone may have modified the approval plans with. out benefit
of obtaining approval by the City for the modifications. He ~ta'~.ed-t~a~'-..~..ji
Rich Harison, the Senior Inspector, has ~'ndicated that there may in faC~ ~e
some question as to whether the inspector was back out there after the
initial framing inspection was done.. He added that it has also been dis-
covered that there has not been a final signoff on the drywall. If that
argument is accepted at face value, the effect would be that an inspector,
by not noticing .some unauthorized change, in effect amends our Zoning Ordi-
nance. Whether the inspector saw it or not seems to be in some dispute;
whether he was out there or not is something that has not been determined,
but he would take the position even further and say that even if he was, that
doesn't legitimate an unauthorized change in the plan. FIe added that as
far as he is concerned, the argument does not excuse the modification of
the plan, and his recommendation would be to ignore it and treat the vari-
ance on its merits. He commented that he is not saying that the Commission
should not grant the variance; he is saying that the variance should not
be granted based solely on that argument. He stated that the Commission
should handle this like any other variance and an independent decision
should be made on it.
Rich Harison, Senior Iespector, gave the history of the project and the
inspections. He stated that it was the recollection of the inspector, when
he did the frame inspection, that the balconies and French doors were not
installed at that time.
Patric Kelly, attorney for the applicant, discussed the findings in
the Staff Report. He reference letters from Mr. and Mrs. Janovich and
Mr. and Mrs. Inman, in support of the project. He described the balconies
and stated that Mr. Gaub of the..Central Fire District had commented that
he was in favor of the balconies' being there for the question of safety and
'getting out of the second story in the 'event of a fire. ~4r. Kelly stated
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that Mr. Gaub had also indicated that a stairway in the 'rear area of the
home would be sufficient and a turnaround would not be necessary. Chairman
Schafer noted that the applicant should get this in writing.
Mr. Eugene Francis,' the 'adjacent neighb'or, spoke against the applications.
He commented that the' applicant h~s been denied permits in the past for
all of the things that he has gone ahead and constructed. He questioned
the granting of' the variance 'at this 'time.
The City Attorney commented that the 'six items on pages 6 and 7 of the
Staff Report are 'not be'fore the Commission under the Design Review app.l.ica-
tion. He indicated that these had been discovered as modifications~when'
S~a~f :W~'.~e~:~jh'g~'~H~ '.d~'ng in connection with the variance. He stated
that they are listed in order' to advise the Commission, as w611 as the
applicant, of further modifications :'that we're 'made that would require further
approvals unless they are addressed now in some fashion. He added that it
would appear from 'comments made by the applicant's attorney that many of
these things can be resolved. He stated that he wanted to emphasize that if
the Commission gives an approval now 'and these other things are taken care
of, the Commission is only approving those items that are the subject of
the Design Review. He added that he does not want the Commission's approval
of a drawing to constitute"approval of anything other than the subject of
the Design Review. He indicated that if there is anything else on the'
drawing that is not specifically addressed in this particular application.
it is not being approved, and the Commission.is assuming it is previously
approved. He added that if there is some modification that has not been
caught, the Commission is not approving that either.
It was directed that this matter' be continued to an Adjourned Regular Meet-
ing at 7:00 on January 17, 1984..
COMMUNICATIONS
Written
1. Letter from Mr. Nobriga dated December 20, 1983, concerning
the development of Lira Drive.
2. Letter' from Mr. J. Rosenfeld, dated December 26, 1983, re
Parking District #3.'
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved and seconded to adjourn to an Adjourned Regular Meeting
on January 17, 1984. The motion was carried unanimously. The meeting
ended at 11:35 p.m.
i~lly s bmitt
Secretary
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