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MINUTES
DATE: Wednesday, February 22, 1984 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers,.13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting.
ROUTINE ORGANIZATION
~oll Call
Present: Commissioners Crowther, Hlava, Harris, Peterson and Schaefer
Absent: Commissioners McGoldrick and Siegfried
Minutes
The following'addition was made to the minutes of February 8, 1984: On page
2, fifth paragraph ~under UP-315: "Chairman Schaefer recomm'ended specific time-
frames be added for compliance that were later adopted." Commissioner Harris
moved to waive the reading of the minutes of February 8, 1984 and approve as
amended. Commissioner Peterson seconded the motion, wh'ich was carried unani-
mously.=
'PUBL~'C HEARINGS
1. SDR-1549 Frank and Dagmar Horvath, Request for Tentative Building Site
Approval to create two. (2) lots at 22122 Mt. Eden Road in the
NHR Zoning District (and. Negative Declaration)
It was directed that this.matter be continued to the meeting on March 14, 1984.
2. A-928 - Dwayne Richards, RequeSt for Design ReView Approval to construct
a split level single family residence at 14012 Palomino Way, in
the 'NHR Zoning District
It was 'directed that this matter be continued to March 14', 1984.
3a.. SDR-!545 - Warren Sturla, Request for Tentative Building Site Approval
3b. V-615 - and Design Review .Approval for four (4) office condominiums
3c. A-900 - and Variance Approval for compact parking and a reduced side
setback at the southwest corner of Cox Avenue and Saratoga
Creek Drive in a P-.A Zoning' D'istrict
Chairman Schaefer noted that the issues' were screening of the trash container
and making the findings for the compact parking. She stated that Commissioner
'Siegfried had indicated at the study session that he would make the findings;.
however, he is not present at the meeting tonight. Staff explained the project
and commented that unless the Planning Commission is able to make the findings
relative to the variance on parking, they would be unable to approve the design
review. Staff indicated that they are unable to make those findings and are
.recommending denial of the variance. They addressed the trash container and
requested direction from the Commission as to location. The parking was
addressed, and it was clarified that the parking would overhang 2~ feet into
the landscaping.
Commissioner Hlava gave a Land Use Commit'tee report, describing the site.
The setbacks were discussed. At the inquiry of Commissioner Crowther, dis-
cussion was held on the 100 year flood line.
The public hearing was opened at 7:.49 p.m.
Jim Russell, representing the Saratoga Park Woods Homeowners Association,
stated that he does not believe people pay any attention to compact parking
signs and expressed their opposition. He indicated that their concern is the
actual density of the square footage. Commissioner Peterson noted that recent
studies show that half of the cars on the road are compacts. Staff clarified
that the ordinance allows 50% building coverage for a professional office.
Chairman Schaefer explained that the 'reason that thi's proposal is 27% coverage
is because that is the 'maximum amount of parking that the applicant has been
able to provide.'
Dr. Sturla, the applicant, addressed the compact car spaces and the turna-
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round. He indicated that he felt the area between the building and the creek
would be appropriate for the trash container, and it will be screened.
Commissioner Hlava inquired about the existing parking in the area, comment-
ing that there were always cars parked non-stop along'Village Drive. The
applicant stated that he felt it was the people's personal preference and
indicated that the parking lots in the area are in excess of City requirements
and..there are no compact spaces. The landscaping and impervious coverage were
discussed.
Chairman Schaefer pointed out that some of the Commissioners who were present
at the study session were not present at this meeting, and vice versa. She
stated that she feels the trash container is going to have to be bigger.
She commented that she is in favor of compact parking and thinks that a per-
centage of compact parking.is very reasonable; however, she cannot make the
findings for it. She added that Commissioner Siegfried had said he would
make the findings, and she feels that the applicant.had thought the issues
had been resolved at the study session and that the Commission was generally
going to go ahead with the project.
Commissioner Crowther commented that he feels very strongly that the flood
control line should be shown on the plot plan. Dr. Sturla commented that the
project has been engineered and been approved by the Flood Control. He des-
cribed the lot.
Staff commented that they felt Commissioner Crowther's comments are well taken
because the project is adjacent to the creek and the homes that are built
along the creek on the other side and across Cox have all been built in that
location long before the concern about the flood insurance line came into
being. He added that he feels this information is in the City offices or
available thro.ugh the Water District.
Commissioner Hlava stated that she is uncomfortable with this, because she was
not at the study session last week, and she feels that Dr. Sturla does not
deserve the runaround. However, she feels that Commissioner Crowther has a
good point in terms of the flood control line an'd, more than that, she has a
'concern about the compact parking. She noted that she can make the three
parking findings; however, she can't make the regular variance findings but
feels'that it makes so much sense to be able to allow compact parking here.
Chairman Schaefer asked if it would be possible, if the other issues were
resolved, to approve the project, subject to the fact that a Compact Ordinance
would go into effect within six months. The City Attorney' commented that
there seems to be a general consensus toward incorporating compact spaces into
the ordinance. He stated that if the Commission would like to direct, he can
proceed with the preparation of an ordinance for review at the next meeting.
He noted that any approval could be an approval in concept subject to the
condition of an ordinance change. He added that this would involve an amend-
ment to the Zoning Ordinance; therefore, it would have to go through public
hearings at the Commission and City Council.
Commissioner Crowther commented that he has a different view of the compact
parking. He explained that he has no problem with it in areas where existing
buildings are and the compact parking provides additional parking spaces.
However, in the case of a new building, what it results in is a larger build-
ing, greater site coverage, and less total area allocated to parking, and he
feels this is a bad trend. He indicated'that he is opposed to it in this case
because he would li.ke to see the building held down to the coverage that the
other buildings in the area are. He added that by not allowing compact park-
ing and not letting.up on setbacks, that would essentially force the building
to be smaller and comparable to existing buildings in the area. He added that,
based on that, he could not vote for either one of the variances.
-Commissioner Peterson commented that he does not want to see the Commission
initiate compact parking to allow bigger buildings; he wants to see it initiated
to provide more parking. He stated that.he would like to revise the ordinance
in some way to make the coverage of the building consistent with what is exist-
ing, but allow people 'to come in and provide more parking by having compact
parking.
Discus'sion followed on the options relative to this application. Staff com-
mented that, based on the comments tonight, providing a Compact Parking Space
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Ordinance is not quite as simple as it would seem if in fact Commissioner
Peterson's suggestion that the providing of the parking spaces is not to
simply increase the space of the building, as in this case. They added that
trying to come up with a formula that doesn't do that will be more difficult
than what could be put together for the next meeting. The City Attorney
amended his earlier comment to Concu~ with~laf. f.."'..
Dr. Sturla made the suggestion that the density ought to be spelled out in
the ordinance. He also suggested that the proposal be continued to another
study session. There was a consensus to direct this matter to a study session
on March 6, 1984 and the regular meeting of March 14, 1984. It was determined
that the Commission would discuss the subject of compact parking after this
meeting, to give direction to the City Attorney in preparation of the ordinance.
4. A-934 - Parnas Corporation, Request for Design Review Approval to con-
struct a two-story single family residence on Saratoga Heights
Drive (Lot 10, Tract 6665), in the NHR Zoning District
Staff explained the proposal. Commissioner Hlava gave a Land Use Committee
report, describing the lot. She commented that the driveway area and part
of the deck goes over the knoll. Staff stated that a new grading plan had
been submitted, w]iich had been distributed to the Commission tonight, which
shows some modification. They added that there is a significant difference
between the grading figures given on the Staff Report and the figures indicated
on the new exhibit. They stated that they had not had a chance to review the
new information.
The public hearing was opened at 8:35 p.m.
The applicant discussed the proposal and the grading. He requested that they
be allowed to flip the house over and change the location of the driveway to
reduce the grading. There was a consensus that this new plan would have to
be submitted for review. Staff noted that this would be a modification to
design review and appropriate fees would be charged.
Commissioner Crowther questioned the slope and calculations. Staff noted
-that this is one of the subdivisions that are subject to the negotiated
settlements and is not subject to the NHR Ordinance or Specific Plan for the
area, but is subject to the HCRD regulations. Staff was requested to check
the calculations. Commissioners Harris and Crowther expressed concern with
the height of the structure and Staff was asked to check the height elevations.
It was directed that this matter be continued to the regular meeting of March
14, 1984.
~5. A-935 - Parnas corporation, Request for Design Review Approval to con-
struct a two-story, single family residence on Congress Hall
Lane (Lot 25, Tract 6665), in the NHR Zoning District
The application was.described by Staff. Commissioner Hlava gave a Land Use
Committee report. She commented that this is on the other half of the top
of the knoll, with'the Masters 'house on the other hal£. She indicated that
there is a lot of building on this one knoll. She added that there is not a
great deal of impact on the viewshe'd.
Commissioner Crowther stated that he th.inks the house will be ]highly visible
from Congress Springs Road, and he questions the appropriateness of a two-
story house on this lot.
The public hearing was opened at 8:50 p.m.
Commissioner Hlava' moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner Harris
seconded the motion, wh'ich was carried unanimously.
There was a consensus that the exte'rior color should not be bone white. Com-
missioner Hlava agreed that this house is going to be visible from Congress
Springs Road and she indicated that she had a real problem with the fact that
there is so much on the 'top of this one little knoll. She added, however,
that she does not feel that tb.e Commission can penalize 'this applicant, since
they approved the Masters applicati'on. She moved to approve A-935, per
Exhibits "B", "C" and "D" and the Staff Report dated February 14, 1984, with
Condition 4 amended to state that the exterior color be earth tone, subject
to Staff approval. Commissioner Peterson seconded the motion, which was
carried 4-1, with Commissioner Crowther dissenting.
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6. A-936 Pinn Brothers Construction, Request for Design Review Approval to
construct 15 single story residences on the north side of Verde
Vista 400 ft~ south of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road (Saratoga Horti-
cultural Foundation), in the R-1-12,500 Zoning District
It was directed that this matter be continued to March 14, 1984.
MISCELLANEOUS
7. UP-526 M. Oudewaal, 14395 Saratoga Avenue, Review of U-se +ermit for
Travel Agency
The use permit was explained. Staff noted that Mr. Bob Hargrove had discussed
the conditions of the Staff Report with Staff, and the removal of the real
estate signs, installation of the landscaping and a landscape maintenance agree-
ment have been agreed to. Discussion followed on a timeframe for removal of
the signs and the 'landscaping, and it was suggested that it be 24 hours for the
signs and 45 days for the landscaping to be completed. Staff commented that they
would be also pursuing the accomplishment of the street improvements on Saratoga
Avenue with Mr. Oudewaal. They suggested a 90-day timeframe for this.
Mr. Hargrove stated that the signs are already down permanently. He indicated
that he did not want to complete the landscaping until the off site improvements
are completed, and he has requested that the performance bond be pulled so the
improvements can be completed. Staff noted that there is a cash bond or savings
certificate and they would prefer that the applicant perform the work, and they
have put him on notice regarding thi's. The City Attorney noted that the change
0f ownership does' not.change the conditions of the site approval, and the fact
that the seller has not done the work does not change the requirement that the
work be performed by whoever may be owning the property at the time. He added
that the matter is between Mr. Hargrove and Mr. Oudewaal, and it may become
necessary for the City to use' the cash deposit. Discussion followed on the
timeframe, and the applicant was requested to coordinate with Staff regarding
the off site improvements and the landscaping.
Commissioner Hlava moved to allow the use to continue, per the Staff Report
dated February 8, 1984, with the addition to Condition 3 to indicate that those
portions of the landscaping which are in conjunction with the off site improve-
ments may be delayed at Staff's discretion until 30 days after the off site
improvements ar'e completed, and the off site improvements shall be completed
within '90 days. Commissioner Harris seconded the motion, which was carried
unanimously 5-0.
8. SDR-1558 - Richard Merwin, Sobey Road, Reconsideration of Condition II-D
The request was explained by Staff. Commissioner Hlava stated that this is not
the first time this subject has come up to the Commission, and she generally
likes to support Staff on this. kind of thing. However, she has a real strong
question about the requirement to widen this one little section on Sobey Road
to rebuild a house, when there is the whole expanse of Sobey Road. She added
that she is not sure it is the safest thing to do. She moved to reconsider
Condition II-D of SDR-1558, since she would like to hear what the applicant has
to say. Commissioner Peterson seconded the motion, which was carried unani-
mously 5-0.
Mr. Merwin, '.the applicant, gave the history of the site. He questioned improv-
ing a portion of Sobey Road when it does not enhance anything aesthetically or
functionally to the street. He noted that the property to the north will never
be subdivided and improved. The parking on the site was discussed.
Staff noted that all of the properties on Sobey Road recently have been
required to make those improvements at the time of the development of the
properties. The other properties in the area were discussed.
Chairman Schaefer stated that it has always been the policy to widen the roads
where possible when they are added. However, she personally questions the
policy of doing that on rural streets in little pockets. She commented that
she questions whether this is worth doing now, or whether it would be better
to wait and do it as a Deferred Improvement Agreement. She noted that the
issues are (1) cost, (2) safety and (3) aesthetics.
Commissioner Hlava agreed, stating that in cases like this, where this house
is going to be such an isolated section of widening, she almost thinks it is
more 'dangerous to dO that than to wait until later. when it is done in conjunc-
tion with the property south of the applicant, so there is some sizable strip
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of wider road. She added that she realizes that the Staff feels strongly
about not doing a Deferred Improvement Agreement and asked for the basis of
their feeling on this. Staff commented that, on Sobey Road, they feel that
if the Commission is inclined to modify the conditions here, then they should
expect to see all of those applicants who have this condition who have not
yet made the improvement, and perhaps even some grumbling from those who have.
They added that it is not unusual for the City to improve these roads in this
fashion, and Staff feels that it is the responsibility of the developing
property owner.
Discussion followed on the writing of a Deferred Improvement Agreement, and
Staff noted that the City calls them up when they deem it appropriate. Mr.
Merwin asked that it be subject to a Deferred Improvement Agreement until such
time that either he takes it up on himself to' improve 'it or until the property
to the south is improved. The City Attorney' clarified that the Deferred
Improvement Agreement would be recorded and then be noticed to subsequent
buyers. He stated that th. ere is the risk that some subsequent buyer might try
to challenge enforcement of the agreement, and that is one reason why the
City prefers to have the work be done and be assured that it is going in.
Commissioner Hlava questioned if it were possible to have the Deferred Improve-
ment Agreement such that before the title to the land is transferred the
improvements have to be done, so Mr. Merwin in any case would be responsible
for it. The City Attorney strongly recommended against that, stating that
he feels it is unwise to: make any agreement conditioned upon transferability
of title. Commissioner Hlava stated that she has a real problem with this,
since there was the same kind of Deferred Improvement Agreement on the 7-1].
Store in h. er neighborhood, on the landscaping; it was transferred, and the
landscaping was not done. She added that, on the other hand, this does not
make sense to do this improvement right now.
Commissioner Schaefer moved that Condition II-D for SDR-1558 be subject to a
Deferred Improvement Agreement. Commissioner Hlava seconded the motion, which
was carried 3-2, with Commissioners Harris and Peterson dissenting.
COMMUNICATIONS
Written
1. Letter from Mr. Paul McMullen dated February 14, 1984, requesting
that the Comm~ss'xon consider cabanas and gazebos, etc. as accessory structures.
It was determined that this letter can 'be reviewed when the Commission con-
siders changes to the ordinances'.'
2. Petitions regarding the Blue Hills Union 76 Gas Station. It was
noted that one petition is in favor and the other in opposition. Discussion
followed on the procedure used regarding the design review. Commissioner Hlava
noted that she had discussed this with the President of the homeowners group
from which the petition in opposition had come, and also the Greenbrier Home-
owners Association, and they had thought it was fine. Commissioner Crowther
commented that there was a lot of discussion during the General Plan, and the
neighborhood in opposition had indicated that they would like the park to
remain at that corner. Staff commented that it was their intent to be in
contact with the Union 76 people regarding the landscaping. Mr. Abe Kaabipour,
operator of the station, addressed the lighting and was asked to use some kind
of a dimmer, lower voltage lighting. It was noted that some more landscaping
of trees is planned.
Oral
1. Chairman Schaefer thanked the Saratoga News for attending and the
Good Government Group for attending and.serving coffee.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Hlava moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Harris seconded
the motion, which was carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 9:45
p.m.
Secretary
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