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MINUTES
DATE: Wednesday, September 25, 1985 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
ROUTINE ORGANIZATION
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Burger, B. Harris, J. Harris, Peterson, Pines
and Siegfried
Absent: None
Minutes
The following changes were made to the minutes of September 11, 1985: On
page 6, the second paragraph, the second sentence should read "view from
the golf course". On page 5, the last paragraph, the second sentence
should read "architect" instead of "house". Commissioner J. Harris
moved to waive the reading of the minutes of September 11, 1985 and
approve as amended. Commissioner Burger seconded the motion, which was
carried, with Commissioner Siegfried abstaining since he was not
present.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Bert Martel, 14420 Fruitvale Avenue, read a letter into the record
addressing the future construction involved in the Odd Fellows' proposed
project. He indicated that adequate fire protection is needed for the
homes in the immediate area around San Marcos Road. He explained that
last year a broken line had resulted in a reduction of pressure of over
50% by the San Jose Water Company. He stated that the Fire District had
then made measurements and found that the pressure was adequate for fire
protection but low enough to warrant some concern. He noted the
construction that has since taken place . He asked that the Commission
put the Odd Fellows project on hold until the San Jose Water Company
indicates that there is enough pressure to fight house fires while the
Odd Fellows are on 100% city water.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. EP-22 - Douglas North, 19091 Portos Drive, Request for Encroach-
ment Permit to allow an addition to be located in a pub-
lic utilities easement
2. GF-352 - Resolution adding automobile upholstering as a condi-
tional use in the C-V zoning district
3. GF-353 - Resolution adding Christmas tree sales as a permitted
use in the P-A zoning district
4. GPA-85-4 -Odd Fellows, Resolution recommending approval of amend-
ment of a policy within the text of the Land Use Ele-
ment of the General Plan
Commissioner Burger moved to approve the items listed on the Consent
Calendar above. Commissioner Siegfried seconded the motion, which was
carried unanimously 6-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR
5. A-1122 - John Page, Request for Design Review Approval to con-
struct a two-story residence which exceeds the 6200
sq. ft. allowable floor area standard on Lot 8, Tract
6665, Saratoga Heights Drive, in the NHR zoning dis-
trict; continued from September 11, 1985
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6. UP-587 - James and Kathleen Horner, Request for Use Permit
Approval' to allow two horses on 1.89 acres where two
acres are required in the NHR zoning district at
13857 Pike Road
7a. Negative Declaration - UP-588 - Park Saratoga Associates
7b. UP-588 - Park Saratoga Associates, Request for Use Permit Approv-
al to permit a produce and gourmet food store in the
Park Saratoga Shopping Center at 12200 Saratoga-Sunny-
vale Road in the C-V zoning district
8. V-713 - Tibor Szalay, Request for Variance Approval to permit
construction of a room addition within 2 ft. of the
side property line where a 10 ft. side yard setback
is required in the R-1-10,000 zoning district at
14328 Paul Avenue
Item #6, UP-587, James and Kathleen Horner, was removed for discussion.
Commissioner Burger moved to approve the balance of the Public Hearings
Consent Calendar listed above. Commissioner J. Harris seconded the
motion, which was carried unanimously 6-0.
Discussion followed on Item #6, UP-587. The public hearing was opened
at 7:40 p.m.
Mike Sobelman, 13810 Pierce Road, told of the landslide on his property
in 1983 and commented that he has nothing against the present residence.
He passed out a letter from the Code Enforcement Officer, pointing out
that this area is zoned for only one horse. He explained that he has an
existing lawsuit for drainage, siltation and feces which were in his
living room during 1981, 1982 and 1983 from the residence when they were
grazing horses at the property line. He explained the new drainage
system that had to be installed on his property. He questioned the
approval of this horse permit for two horses in the Staff Report, noting
the 15% slope of the corral and potential drainage problem. He stated
that to give a use permit to put one extra horse on that hillside is
· absurd. Commissioner Siegfried commented that there would be conditions
on a use permit, the first one being that the applicant would have to
come up with a suitable drainage plan. He added that if the conditions
are not met the use permit could be revoked immediately. Mr. Sobelman
strongly urged a site inspection by all of the Commission.
The City Attorney stated that unfortunately there was a miscommunication
with respect to the process. He explained that the code provides that
in the NHR zoning district a use permit would be needed if there are
more than two horses but on a site 2 acres or greater in size. He
referenced the map from the Zoning Ordinance designating the equestrian
zones. He stated that this property is in the equestrian zone. He
explained that the R-1 zoning regulations provide that 1 horse is
allowed on a 1 acre site and 2 horses on 2 acres or more. However, if
you are in the equestrian zone then those numbers are doubled. He added
that the HC-RD regulations similarly contain that kind of special
provision dealing with the equestrian zone, and that regulation preceded
the adoption of the NHR Zoning Ordinance. He explained that all of the
area shown on the map as the equestrian zone when that map was prepared
was HC-RD, and with the adoption of new hillside regulations it became
NHR. The provision dealing with additional horses allowed in the
equestrian zone was not carried forward into the NHR zoning regulations.
He indicated that he did not have any specific recollection of the
subject being discussed during the meetings that were held when the
regulations were adopted. He noted that the provision had been put in
that in the NHR district a corral could not be on a slope greater than
15%, and it speaks to the keeping of of more than 2 horses on a site of
2 acres or more, subject to the regulations of obtaining a horse
license. He stated that now the applicant would clearly be entitled to
1 horse and the applicant would not need a use permit. He indicated
that if the site was 2 acres or more, then the applicant could have a
second horse on it. He added that in effect the NHR regulations have
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nullified the equestrian zone. He commented that as part of the
Commission's review of the Zoning Ordinance, they should consider
whether they want to in effect apply the same rules to the NHR district
as now would be applicable to a R-1-40,000 district or a HC-RD
district. He stated that if the Commission is inclined to do that, and
if by the same token they are willing to allow this applicant to have
the horses for the time being, his suggestion would be to impose
whatever conditions you wish. We would issue a conditional horse license
subject to a subsequent change in the Zoning Ordinance to in effect
adopt the same rule relative to equestrian zones that now apply in the R-
1-40,000 and HC-RD districts. He added that, as things stand now, there
is really no basis under the NHR ordinance for a use permit; the use
permit was intended to be used once the applicant wanted more than 2
horses and the site was more than 2 acres in size. He indicated that
the applicant has been told to get a use permit or get rid of one horse.
Since there is no legal basis at the time to grant a use permit, the
applicant would have to reduce the number of horses down to 1, and there
is no basis for any action by the Planning Commission. He reminded the
Commission that under the Animal Control regulations there are rather
extensive and detailed regulations which deal with the kind of things
Mr. Sobelman addressed in terms of sanitary conditions and the like.
At Chairman Peterson's inquiry, the City Attorney commented that
procedurally the action this evening by the Commission would be to deny.
Mrs. Horner asked what the procedural remedy would be while the
Commission is debating this issue, relative to her second horse. She
stated that she would like to answer Mr. Sobelman's concerns, but feels
that at this point that is not pertinent. Chairman Peterson commented
that the Commission would look at this issue as soon as possible;
however, unfortunately at this time only 1 horse is allowed. The City
Attorney stated that the only basis on which the applicant could
possibly keep both horses would be if the amendment to the ordinance was
initiated and we knew it was going to be adopted, and just allowed the
applicant to maintain the status quo in the meantime. He added that
that would involve the Commission's review of all the concerns that have
been raised and the imposition of appropriate conditions. He commented
that there is also the issue of Confirming the slope underneath the
corral.
Staff commented that, because of the confusion of this application, they
would suggest that the Commission, in their motion, waive the fees for a
subsequent application if made within 30 days of the final determination
on this matter.
Mrs. Horner stated that she would like to be on record as saying that
she does not accept the statement that her two horses can pollute Mr.
Sobelman's yard or home. She commented that if she grazed her horses 24
hours a day on that hillside, then she feels he would have definite
grounds for complaint. She commented that she is very careful about the
amount of time she lets them graze.
Mr. Horner noted that there are a great number of people in the area
with horses. He commented that they had bought the property
specifically because they had City maps which showed it to be an
equestrian zone. He addressed the cost of boarding a horse.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Burger seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Discussion followed on the possibility of a temporary horse license and
the timeframe for an ordinance amendment. There was a consensus to not
issue a temporary license, since there was a complaint and the matter
needs to be reviewed. Staff suggested that if the motion is to deny,
that it be denied without prejudice, to allow the applicant to reapply
immediately thereafter.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to deny UP-587 without prejudice and
waive the fees should a subsequent application be made within 30 days of
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the final adoption of an ordinance. Commissioner J. Harris seconded the
motion, which was carried 5-1, with Commissioner Burger dissenting. The
appeal period was noted.
There was a consensus to move forward expeditiously with an ordinance
amendment. Commissioner Burger stated that she voted in opposition to
the motion because, while she does understand all of the legalities and
is pleased with the fact that.the ordinance will be amended as
discussed, she does feel that it is an extremely well maintained corral
and she did not see any problems in the area at the time of her on-site
visit.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
9. SUP-8 - Nadine McCullough, 14985 Quito Road, Request for Second
Unit Use Permit to allow two (2) existing second units
on two (2) separate parcels in the R-1-40,000 zoning
district; continued from June 26, 1985 (to be continued
to October 23, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 23, 1985.
10. SUP-11 - Vuka Stepovich, 14233 Old Wood Road, Request for Second
Unit Use Permit to allow an existing, detached, one-
story second unit in the R-1-40,000 zoning district;
continued from July 10, 1985 (to be continued to Octo-
ber 23, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 23, 1985.
lla. SUP-12 - Charles Bolander Trust, 14231 Douglass Lane, Request
llb. V-678 - for Second Unit Use Permit to allow an existing, detach-
ed, one-story second unit and Variance Approval to main-
tain a 3.5 ft. rear yard setback and 3 ft. side yard
setback where 35 ft~ and 15 ft. are required respective-
ly and to provide two (2) covered parking spaces where
three (3) are required, in the R-1-20,000 zoning dis-
trict; continued from June 26, 1985 (to be continued to
October 23, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 23, 1985.
12. A-1101 - Mr. and Mrs. Sudin Vittal, Request for Design Review
Approval for a new, two-story, single family residence
on a hillside lot which exceeds the 6200 sq. ft. stan-
dard at 15265 Montalvo Heights Court in the R-1-40,000
zoning district; continued from August 14, 1985 (to be
continued to October 9, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 9, 1985.
13. A-1126 - Carol and John Fara, Request for Design Review Approval
for a new, one-story, single family residence which
exceeds 22 ft. in height at 12385 Parker Ranch Road, in
the NHR zoning district; continued from August 28, 1985
(to be continued to October 9, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 9, 1985.
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14a. UP-584 - Bryce Reynolds, Request for Use Permit Approval to allow
14b. A-1110 - an accessory structure to be located in the required
rear yard 31 ft. from the rear property line and Design
Review Approval to exceed the 6200 sq. ft. standard at
12182 Parker Ranch Road, in the NHR zoning district;
continued from August 28, 1985 (to be continued to Oct-
ober 9, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 9, 1985.
15. A-1116 - Hashem and Nasrin Farr, Request for Design Review Approv-
al to construct a two-story residence which exceeds the
allowable floor area standard at 15146 Sperry Lane, in
the R-1-40,000 zoning district; continued from September
11, 1985
Staff gave the history of the application, stating that the applicant
has made some modifications relative to discussions at the study
session. They discussed the changes made, indicating that they were
still recommending denial since they cannot make the necessary findings.
The public hearing was opened at 8:20 p.m.
The architect for the project noted the changes made since the last
study session. He clarified that the front yard setback is 75 ft.
Commissioner Burger moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner J.
Harris seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
There was a consensus that the modified proposal is basically in line
with what was discussed at the study session. Chairman Peterson noted
that Staff, in the conditions, has further reduced the height and
conditioned it to 6200 sq. ft. He noted that Condition 6 states that
the top of the house cannot be more than 470 ft. elevation, which would
mean that the height of the home would be 24 ft.
Discussion followed on the elevation suggested by Staff. There was a
consensus to delete Condition #6.
Commissioner Burger moved to approve A-1116, per the conditions in the
Staff Report dated August 8, 1985,Fmaking Findings 1, 3 and 4. The home
does not unreasonably interfere with the views or privacy of anyone
within the neighborhood because the height has been reduced and,
relative to the lot to the west, the view in any case is oriented in
just the opposite direction from where this house is going to be built.
Findings #3 and 4 are answered .by the applicant's response to the
Commission's concerns in reducing the height of the residence and also
reducing the square footage. She deleted Condition #6 and regarding
Condition #7, she commented that she is not concerned about the square
footage of 6890 and substituted that number for 6200 sq. ft.
Commissioner Siegfried seconded the motion, which was carried 5-1, with
Commissioner J. Harris dissenting. Commissioner Harris J. commented
that she was unable to make the finding Perception of Excessive Bulk.
The appeal period was noted.
16a. SDR-1610 -Brian Kelly and Barbara Harris, Request for Tentative
16b. V-712 - Building Site Approval for one lot and Variance and
16c. A-1134 - Design Review Approvals to permit construction of a
new, two-story, single family residence within 23.5 ft.
of the rear property line (existing home to be demolish-
ed) at 14101 Loma Rio Drive, in the R-1-12,500 zoning
district
Commissioner B. Harris abstained from the discussion and voting on this
matter. Staff described the project, recommending approval of the SDR
and Design Review with conditions, and denial of the Variance. They
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described the lot, noting that it is substandard.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that this is unlike a situation where
an addition is proposed, since in this case a house is being demolished.
He, therefore, has difficulty with the concept of granting a variance to
allow construction of a new home.
The public hearing was opened at 8:35 p.m.
Brian Kelly, the applicant, gave a presentation on the project. He
discussed the efforts they have made to alleviate the impact to the Vick
property and submitted documents illustrating the concepts and comments
that he clarified. He addressed the rear yard setbacks, noting the
trapezoidal rear property line.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that he feels the home could be
designed without a variance. Mr. Kelly listed the amenities they would
like in the home and stated that they calculated the square footage to
be approximately 2200 sq. ft. of livable space. Commissioner Siegfried
suggested moving the bathroom on the second story and slightly reducing
the size of the dining room. Mr. Kelly noted that the master bedroom is
now in the back.
Commissioner Pines stated that he thinks the setbacks in the back
preclude doing a straightforward rectangular situation like the proposed
building has, but he thinks that could be stepped and there could be a
bay back there. He commented that he would like to see some studies
done to see if the back of the house could work with the trapezoidal
shape of the back of the lot with the setback the way it is. He added
that, other than that, he does not have a problem with it.
Mr. Kelly stated that if the Planning Commission feels strongly about
the variance he will be flexible in that regard. He commented that
the real thrust of where they were coming from is because of'the odd
shape of the rear of the lot. He stated that they felt there might be
some consideration given to that. He described the existing nine lots
in the area. He also submitted photos of the general landscaping on the
property. Mr. Kelly indicated that they had met with most of the
neighbors and commented that the applicants have an open mind relative
to the proposal.
Discussion followed on the height and square footage. Mr. Kelly
indicated that they could work with a height of 26 feet. He addressed
the calculation of square footage and commented that if they redesign
the master bedroom they will be eliminating square footage.
Patricia Vick, 14137 Squirrel Hollow Lane, spoke in opposition to the
proposal. She submitted two petitions, one relative to the variance and
one relative to the design. She spoke to the tremendous visual impact
that the project will have on her home from almost every angle. She
referenced the pictures she had submitted showing the impact of the
proposed home on her home and noted that her hedge is 9 ft. tall instead
of 12 ft. She requested a continuance so that the Commissioners can all
come out and review the site. Mrs. Vick addressed the impact on the
neighborhood and the other homes in the area. She asked that homes be
built on Loma Rio that are proportionate to the site and in harmony with
it. She asked for a one-story design that would not provide bulk and
intense development on this tiny lot. She pointed out two critical
inaccuracies in the plans presented by the applicant regarding the
trapezoidal shapes. She noted that there is a 6 ft. difference in where
the home is situated on the lot in the drawing of the original house and
where it is in reality, and an 8 ft. difference in where the ridge is in
reality.
Gary Vick spoke in opposition to the variance and the very inconsiderate
and invasive structure being proposed. He indicated that he feels the
structure is in violation of the ordinance. He added that the
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structure, regardless of whether it is 26 ft. or 28 ft. high, is going
to be unreasonable and will substantially impact their view. He stated
that he did not know why the developers did not choose to build a
charming, single-story home with a reasonable roof height that would in
effect minimize the intensity in this neighborhood. He added that he
felt a single-story home could be constructed with the same amount of
square footage, and would be one which everyone could be proud of.
Robert Weisman, 14147 Squirrell Hollow, spoke in opposition to the
proposal. He described his back yard and commented that he feels that a
two-story house would have an adverse impact on his view and back yard.
He submitted pictures showing that the screening between the two yards
is not adequate. He commented that landscaping would provide privacy if
a one-story house is built, but would not provide privacy if a two-story
house is built. He discussed the trees in his yard and stated that he
does not feel that the density of those trees justifies the statement in
the Staff Report that they will allow him privacy. He added that he is
now having to prune the trees in order to save them.
Wendy Weisman also spoke in opposition. She commented that they use
their back yard for many charitable events. She stated that they feel
strongly that a second-story house looming over their property will
greatly detract from the natural balance in their yard, and it would
also greatly diminish the financial value of their home. She noted that
another owner of three of the next four homes has submitted plans for
single-story residences of 2,000 sq. ft. She indicated that the
proposed structure would block their view and sunlight. She asked that
something compatible with the neighborhood be built on this lot.
Mr. Kelly stated that they recognize the effect on the Vicks' residence;
however, he feels they have attempted to do a design that minimizes that
effect. He added that they had suggested the planting of trees along
that property line.
Commissioner Siegfried moved to close the public hearing. Commissioner
Burger seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously.
Commssioner Burger gave a Land Use Committee report, indicating that she
had viewed the site from the Vick and Weisman homes and yards. She
indicated that there are a number of two-story homes in the
neighborhood. She commented that the proposed home is a beautiful
design and would be an upgrade to the neighborhood. However, the
problem is that the home is totally inappropriate for the lot. She
described the lot, noting that she feels that a home can be designed
that will fit the lot. She added that she is concerned about the size
of the home, and is concerned about a two-story home on that lot.
Commissioner Siegfried echoed those concerns. He commented that if Mr.
Kelly were to come in with a creative one-story home that required some
variance, where the Commission could say there is a basis to grant it
because it minimizes the impact on the neighborhood, then he feels the
Commission could find some way to make the findings. He also expressed
concern regarding the height.
Commissioner Pines agreed, and stated that he feels the presentation in
opposition to the application was well thought out. He commented that
he had not originally felt that he would rule out offhandedly the two-
story design scheme, and he still might feel that way if one came in
that dealt with the situation a little more sensitively. He added that
he feels there is enough room to do a one-story design and potentially a
small area of a second story up front if it did not have much impact.
Commissioner J. Harris added that there seemed to be more two-story
homes in the neighborhood than were addressed by the neighbors, but they
were all set back pretty far and they are on much bigger lots. She
added that the proposed design does not seem in keeping and it would
fill up the whole lot.
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Chairman Peterson echoed the comments by the Commission and added that
the Commission is clearly on record that they want to encourage this
kind of development in the substandard lots. He stated that he feels
that area being developed will do nothing but enhance the value of the
homes around it.
It was determined that this matter should be continued in order to
explore other possibilities for the project. Chairman Peterson stated
that the Commission would like to see some alternatives that
specifically address the concerns of the Commission and the neighbors.
It was directed that this matter be continued to a study session on
November 5, 1985 and the regular meeting of November 13, 1985.
MISCELLANEOUS
17a. Negative Declaration - SM-21 - Raymond Leap & Thomas Const., Inc.
17b. SM-21 - Raymond Leap and C..Thomas Construction, Inc., Request
17c. LL#10 - for Lot Line Adjustment Approval to change the property
line between Parcel A and B and Site Modification
Approval to shift the approved building site to an area
of 26% slope compared to 23% at the original site, at
Parcel A and B of Lot 1, Tract 7382, Ten Acres Road, in
the R-1-40,000 zoning district (to be continued to
October 23, 1985)
It was directed that this matter be continued to October 23, 1985.
COMMUNICATIONS
Written
1. Letter from Don Jones, dated September 15, 1985, regarding
the proposed' regulation of satellite antennas (information only).
2. Letter from Donald Given regarding structure at 13728
Fortuna Court. Staff was directed to follow up on the issues raised in
the letter.
Oral by Commission and Staff
'1. Commissioner J. Harris gave a brief report on the City
Council meeting held on September 18, 1985. A copy of the minutes of
this meeting is available in the City Administration Office.
2. It was noted that the on-site visit to Montalvo will be held
on October 1, 1985 and the Joint City Council/Commission meeting will be
held on October 15, 1985.
3. Chairman Peterson thanked the Saratoga News for attending
and the Good Government Group for attending and serving coffee.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Burger moved to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner
Siegfried seconded the motion, which was carried unanimously. The
meeting was adjourned at 9:42 p.m.
Secretary
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