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DATE: Wednesday, June 25, 1986 - 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: Civic Theatre, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Roll Call
Present: Commissioners Guch, Siegfried, Pines and Chairman Burger.
Absent: Commissioners Harris and Peterson.
Following are changes to Minutes of 6/11/86.
Commissioner Siegfried made the following changes:
On page 2, C-231, after statement from Siegfried ending "because of a
misunderstanding", add the following comment as Change #1:
He stated that he didn't want any developers to believe that if they
come in with something that matches the numbers, that this would get
approved. He would like it clarified that these numbers are only
guidelines.
On page 4, at the end of the comment on A-1144 change this paragraph to
read as Change #2:
Commissioner Siegfried commented that when an item such as this that
has been before the Commission previously and comes up again where
there will be recommendations to change a driveway or whatever, be sure
that on that night they have before them, either through the staff or
the applicant, what the impact will be in terms of reducing grading.
On page 6, insert a sentence before the motion to reconsider add Change
#3:
The applicant asked that this matter be brought before a study session
and therefore reconsider it.
Commissioner Pines made the following changes:
At the bottom of page 2, the sentence should read:
He further stated the Commission and developers should be aware that
what is stated in the ordinance are guidelines.
Page 3, second to the last paragraph, the word "movement" should be in
quotes.
Page 4, after the first sentence, add the comments from Bill Heiss:
Mr. Heiss discussed the grading and commented that no matter where you
move the house on the site, you are basically talking about the total
number of cut and fill being the same.
Page 4, 3rd paragraph, should read:
Commissioner Guch confirmed that the retaining walls were near the
garage and stepped.
The next to the last paragraph, page 4, change sentence to read:
Neighbors ~ave nothing to say in the process of continuance, but have
thousands of dollars at stake.
Change the motion on A-1184, page 5, to read:
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Commissioners HARRIS/SIEGFRIED moved to deny without prejudice because
the applicant never answered any of the staff correspondence. Denied
6-0.
Page 5, A-1197, 4th paragraph, sentence should read "there was no
give-and-take when he wanted to build a second story to his house."
Page 6, 2nd paragraph, last sentence should read:
He further stated he had a problem with how the square footage that is
added to the house after it was reviewed by the Planning Commission.
This is what makes a sham of the hearings in reviewing and discussing
house sizes. He is willing to allow this house size due to the
location and size of houses in the immediate area.
Page 6, V-738, second paragraph, first sentence, should read:
Commissioner Siegfried questioned whether this gate would have any
impact on traffic or parking? Third paragraph, 3rd sentence should
read, "He also stated that Pike Road is a private road and the gate is
30 ft. back from the property line."
Page 7, first paragraph, should read: "Commissioner Guch stated that
the top of the fence would be level. The majority of the fence is 3
ft. and because the driveway is below the mounds on either side, it is
not raising the fence up 3 ft., but is filling in the bottom."
Commissioner Pines concurred."
Page 7, after "Pines concurred", the next two paragraphs should be
under the discussion of the landscaping issue.
Page 7, 3rd paragraph from bottom, should read: "Commissioner Pines
expressed his problem with the pad off the garage. He could not go
along with RV parking in the side yard. It should have been considered
at design review.
Page 8, V-735, 2nd paragraph, first sentence should read: "Mr. Bill Ey
represented the applicant, Thomas Suit, and explained the building was
destroyed by a falling tree and the owner thought he could just
rebuild."
Commissioner Burger had the following corrections to the minutes:
Page 1, under corrections from previous minutes, change should read:
" ..... and the green line refers to gradual grading at the rear of the
lots."
Page 3, under item #4, 2nd paragraph, first sentence should read:
"Commissioner Siegfried questioned how much grading would be involved
if the driveway was relocated."
Page 4, first full paragraph, last sentence, should read:
"Commissioner Burger stated she was greatly impressed with the
architect's attempt to respond to the Planning Commission's concerns."
Page 5, change spelling of "CHARLES ARING".
Page 9, under "Written Communications", change date of study session
from June 16th to June 26, 1986.
Changes to Minutes of Regular Adjourned P.C. Meeting of 6/17/86:
Page 2, last paragraph, motion should be made separately, as follows:
SIEGFRIED/HARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE the variance subject to the
conditions listed below. Motion carried 5-0.
. Page 2, after roofing, add: "basically because of the side expansion."
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WELCOME Commissioner Burger expressed a "Welcome Aboard" sentiment
to Bob Johnston, minutes clerk, and the four new
Associate/Assistant Planner additions to the Planning Department:
Valarie Young; Lisa Welge; Bob Calkins; and Janet Harbin.
ORAL COMMUNICATION - None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. UP-504 - Kimball & Martha Small, request for use permit approval
for a home tour at 20131Rancho Bella Vista, in the
R-I-20,000 zoning district.
Passed 4-0
2. A-1182 - Pan C'al Investment Co., request for design review
approval for two, single-story residences on Lots 1
and 10, Tract 7794, Via Escuela Dr., in the R-1-12,500 zoning
district.
Passed 4-0
3. A-1197 - Gallo, request for design review approval of a new,
two-story home 28 ft. in height and 6,250 sq. ft. in
area where 4,800 sq. ft. is allowed at 20130 Rancho Bella Vista,
in the R-i-20,000 zoning district. (Continued to 7/9/86).
4. A-1203 - Lacroute, request for design review approval for
construction of a new home that exceeds 6,200 sq. ft.
standard on 22% slope on Star Ridge Ct., Parker Ranch, Lots 45
and 46, Tr. 6528, in the NHR zoning district.
(Continued to 7/9/86).
5. SDR-1623 - Coffey, request for tentative map approval for one
single family residential lot located on Miljevich
Drive, east of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd. in the
R-1-t2,500 zoning district.
Passed 4-0
6. A-1177 - Heber Teerlink, request for design review approval to
construct a two-story residence on a hillside lot and
to grade in excess of 1,000 cu. yds. combined cut and fill on ·
Heber Way, Lot 13, Tr. 6781 in the NHR zoning district.
(Continued to 7/9/86).
PINES-SIEGFRIED MOVED TO APPROVE (Items 1, 2 and 5). Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Burger moved to continue Items Nos. 3, 4 and 6 in the
Consent Calendar to 7/9/86.
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PUBLIC'HEARINGS
7. A-1210 - Kenny, request for design review approval for
construction of second story addition to an existing
home to allow the residence to exceed the 4,800 sq. ft. standard
at 15052 Piedmont Rd. in the R-I-20,000 zoning district.
Planning Director Hsia presented the staff report.
The public hearing was opened at 7:49 p.m.
Commissioner Pines questioned a drawing submitted by the applicant,
showing a building setback line of 25', when the staff report showed
rear yard setback of 35'. The correct figure is 35'. Commissioner
Siegfried indicated that the Report to Planning Commission, Agenda Item
#7, Page.19, paragraph 2, should be "the applicant HAS."
Commissioner Guch presented Land Use Committee Report showing that the
property is on one acre in an R-1 zone, left relatively with an average
site slope of 10%, and is under obligation of a Vegetation ordinance.
Mr. Michael Layne, representing the Kennys, wanted to discuss the staff
recommendation in Issue 7, which deals with the oak tree. Mr. Barry
Coate, horticulturist consultant for the city, visited the site,
inspected the tree and made a report of his findings (copies of which
were distributed to The Commissioners).
He respectfully asked for further consideration on the issue of the oak
tree because his clients were very desirous of retaining the window
seat. He said that the height of the oak tree would be affected by the
trimming of branches. The City Horticulturist's findings state that
1/Sth of the canopy could be removed. His feeling was that the tree
was a very vigorous, young tree, that would not be adversely affected
by branch removal. He further stated that the Planning Commission's
recommendations were followed during the process of construction. He
requested that the small window seat be allowed to remain, by trimming
the branch off the tree.
Commissioner Pines felt that the report of the horticulturist was
agreeable to Mr. Layne's assertion, and his request was, therefore, not
unreasonable.
PiNES~UCH MOVED TO CLOSE T.~ PUBLIC 'HEARING. .- .... ... "'-
SIEGFRiED/PINES.MOVED TO ~PPROVE~A-1210, subject to deleting c6ndition 7
of the staff~ report and resolution, and adopting recommendation set out
in the'report-of the City Horticulturist.'~ Passed 4-0.
8. SDR-1622 Hobbs, request for approval of negative declaration and
5-lot residential subdivision of 3.25 acres of
partially developed property located at 13500
Saratoga Ave. in the R-i-20,000 zoning district.
Planning Director Hsia presented the staff report.
Planning Director Hsia indicated that there were two conditions
attached to this application: The first, on Exhibit "A", height of
structure, should read, "Lots 1 and 4." The staff were concerned that
exhibits received showed the street would go through from Fruitvale
Ave. to Ronnie Way, which would be in violation of the general plan.
He expressed concern as to whether or not the Land of Kerwin property
would be able to open future lots, because of traffic patterns.
Traffic access to Ronnie Way would be by way of Saratoga and Fruitvale
Avenues. This comprises the amended exhibit in the staff report,
revised page 37.
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Mr. Toppel, the City Attorney, said that the Lands of Kerwin are not
the subject of this application. The only concern at present is about
the Kelly-Gordon subdivision; and people were in attendance who would
be addressing that issue.
Assistant Planner Caldwell said that the negative declaration in
exhibit before The Commissioners, addressed requirements of traffic
distribution. The schematic (page 37) was only an exhibit to show the
possibility of distributing traffic without the negative impact.
The City Attorney felt that it was a planning issue at the location of
the cul-de-sac. He said that if it could be connected with the Kerwin
property, there would be the possibility of other linkage to other lots
using it as a means of access to Saratoga Ave., and that that was the
only purpose for the exhibit.
Commissioner Pines asked if there was any criteria of what can be
one-story. Assistant Planner Caldwell said it was totally at the
discretion of the Planning Commission. Commissioner Guch pointed out
that the entire development to the rear of the property is of one-story
homes.
Commissioner Guch presented Land Use Committee report describing the
property and surrounding land use.
The public hearing was opened at 8:05 P.M.
Mr. Bill Heiss, engineer, appeared for the applicant. He said that
making a left turn off Saratoga into the property, what is required now
is to go down to the signal light and make a U-turn; so basically, with
the present arrangement, it is a right turn in and a right turn out of
the property.
Commissioner Burger also felt it poses a problem for Scotland Dr.
traffic. Commissioner Pines also was concerned about the turn.
Mr. Heiss felt that the problem could be alleviated by modifying the
safety island, or create some left-turn lanes within the island.
Commissioner Guch felt that was a very good point and should be
studied; as did Commissioner Pines, who suggested a reduction of the
landscape and making another turn lane. Commissioner Burger felt it is
an extremely dangerous condition. Commissioner Pines felt a mini-study
should be made to see if the turn situation should not be completely
closed, especially with the addition of nine lots in the area; and that
the City Engineer should look into it. Toppel said that the situation
can be conditioned so that the effect would be that the safety island
was configured to prohibit left turns into the proposed street from
Saratoga Ave., as it was approved by the City Engineer. Mr. Pines
suggested closing off Scotland Ave., diagonally across Saratoga Ave.
Mr. Heiss feels that in any case all concerned would have to wait until
the suggested study is completed.
A neighborhood resident, Carol Machol, said that the area had always
been composed of single-story homes. She presented a petition signed
by residents of Ronnie Way, who feel that the project should only be
restricted to single-story houses, and that privacy of the neighbors
will be assured; and the preservation of low density of Kentfield area.
Mr. Robert Cooper also spoke as a friend of The Commission and
expressed his desire that the beauty and peace of the neighborhood be
assured through, what he expressed was the good work of the Planning
Commission. David Cooper (not related) also felt that the openness and
beauty of the hills should remain.
Mr. Don Bowden, also a Ronnie Way resident, feels disappointed because
of the development, but is not adverse to it. He wants the rural
atmosphere to be retained.
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Discussion about pad elevation followed, which would involve the
construction of one and two-story homes. Brian Kelly, the applicant,
was of the understanding that he and the Planning Commission would not
be getting into a discussion of this matter during tonight's meeting.
Mr. Bill Heiss indicated the pad elevations are required on which to
build a house; indicated because of the ground which falls toward the
rear of the property, and poses some problems, like drainage.
Commissioner Burger asked him about drainage toward the street. Mr.
Heiss said that the street would be put in as low a grade as possible;
a storm line would be set in the street, bringing drainage from the
property. The backyards could be sloped in their natural configuration
and water brought out by a small pipeline.
Commissioner Siegfried wanted to know about house style, etc., and
asked about the possibility of reducing size. Mr. Kelly felt that
could be done on an individual basis during the design phase with the
Planning Commission. He mentioned the company's intent was to build
homes in the 3,600 sq. ft. range.
Commissioner Burger said that parameters can be established,
consisting of height or story limitation.
Commissioner Pines was of the opinion that there was nothing to justify
two-stories to get square footgage on the site, because of the
largeness of the lots.
PINE/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Burger said that she was very much in favor of limiting
the five homes to single-story height, and was in agreement with that
discussed by the other Commissioners. She was greatly concerned about
the corner location and its traffic problems.
SIEGFRIED/PINES MOVED TO APPROVE THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR
SDR-1622, WITH CONDITION AND RESOLUTION FOR SDR-1622, changing
condition #l. to read: "The height and construction on Lots 1 and 4
should not exceed 22 feet"; and adding conditions "that all homes on
the lots to be single story; and that the applicant shall submit a
traffic circulation plan showing prohibition of any left turn into
subdivision from Saratoga Avenue; and such plan shall be subject to
City Engineering approval." Passed 4-0.
9. C-231 - Consider approval of negative declaration and amendments
to the zoning regulations of the City of Saratoga to
create an ordinance to establish a Planned Development
Zoning Classification to allow multiple uses on a single
...... site having such designation pursuant to PD permit.
Planning Director Hsia presented the staff report.
Mr. Toppel, the City Attorney, spoke of a revised ordinance, dated June
18th; the draft incorporates only changes that were agreed upon by The
Commission, but does not address the issue discussed at this meeting.
He said that The Commission has the authority to move guidelines either
up or down. With reference to senior citizen housing the language
dealing with the ambulatory or bedridden in the ordinance, is stricken.
The section dealing with the site area was changed from "net" to
"gross". Results are also needed relative to parking for senior
citizen housing, regardless of what area may be involved.
The Planning Director, Mr. Hsia, asked The Commission to consider that
"senior citizen housing may include facilities for rendering health
care services and medical treatment for patients residing at the
project" (reading from page 43 of report). He said that at the bottom
of the page, after the phrase "facilities," a comma should be placed
and the words "if appropriate" added.
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Discussion followed regarding hotel/motel density, presented with the
idea that it would be 400 sq. ft. per room, and if applicable to this
site, would not be appropriate. He felt that the area should be 750 to
800 sq. ft.
Commissioner Pines asked if floor area was to be used rather than room
count. Mr. Hsia talked about the hotel issue first; felt that he was
more comfortable using room count. Mr. Pine said that he wanted to
emphasize Item "F", under Section 15-21,010 (Purpose of Article) in
the report; and Mr. Hsia said that that item needs to be changed to .4,
or 150 rooms. Commissioner Guch said it has to be understood in the
context of Item "F", and it really worried her.
Mr. Hsia queried about what would happen if it were changed to read
"maximum density", and Mr. Pines said it could be changed to "guideline
density", and it might be emphasized by saying "subject to paragraph
(whatever), a proposed guideline." Mr Hsia: "or suggested density", to
which Commissioner Guch agreed with that term.
It was also stated by Mr. Hsia that what he suggested was a senior
citizen house with medical facilities, if appropriate. Mr. Toppel's
intent was to include that description in the proposal. It should say,
he said, "3,000 sq. ft. per unit, plus area for medical facilities, as
determined by the Planning Commission."
Commissioner Guch felt that relative low density is the idea she wanted
to convey, and over-development should be avoided. Mr. Pines felt that
anything of a mixed nature cannot be provided for in conglomerated
sites. Commissioner Burger asked for a consensus to call it "density
guidelines" with a reference in sub-paragraph "A", back to paragraph
"F", in section 15-21.010.
Commissioner Burger opened the public hearing at 9:14 P.M.
Don Skinner, PMC Associates, stated he understood the standards were
guidelines. He felt there should be no concern about floor area ratio
problems.
Planning Director Hsia noted that on page 53, under Subsection "C",
Multiple Family Dwellings, he would like to change the word "one"
additional space on the site, to "half" additional space, for senior
housing. The main section would not be involved. This would be more
flexible and create a more open space area for the site. Instead of
having two parking slots per unit for seniors, there would be only 1.5.
Chairman Burger agreed, for those used exclusively by senior citizens,
and asked for a consensus.
Mr. Toppel said that the "parking" article was being amended and would
apply city-wide. Within the article is the restriction that parking
should be on.the site.
Chairman Burger called for closure of the public hearing.
SIEGFRIED/PINES MOVED THAT the negative declaration resolution, C-231,
be approved, subject to amendments. Passed 4-0.
COMMUNICATIONS
Written and Oral
ADJOURNMENT
GUCH/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO ADJOURN.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,