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DATE: February 25, 1987 - 7:00 P.M.
PLACE: Civic Theater, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Roll Call: Present: Chairwoman Burger, Commissioners Harris, Siegfried, Pines, Callans,
Tucker
Absent: Commissioner Guch
Approval of Minutes: Meeting of February 11, 1987
Commissioner Tucker requested an addition on Page 4, AZO-87-001 to read, "In response to
Commissioner Tucker's comment that obtaining a Building Permit did not automatically imply
that the structure had been built according to Code unless final approval had been granted, he
stated that the burden of proof was on the applicant since the City could not, in many cases,
establish that the structures were lawfully constructed. The Commissioner stated that she was
not in favor of lowering building standards nor was she favorable to a reduction in the amount
of the application fee."
Commissioner Harris asked that on Page 2, secohd paragraph from bottom to read, "...the
original house was poorly designed." On Page 3, fifth paragraph, to read, "19870 Lanark
Ln." Final paragraph to read "...moving the proposed cabana forward toward the pool 13 ft."
and in the Motion, "...that the cabana be moved 13 ft. forward toward the pool."
HARRIS/PINES MOVED APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 11, 1987,
AS AMENDED. Passed 6-0.
Deletions to the Agenda: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
REPORT OF CLERK ON POSTING OF AGENDA:
Pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this Meeting was properly posted on
February 20, 1987. !
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. DR-86-061 Gallo, request for design review approval to construct a 5,502 sq.ft. new
two-story single family dwelling at 20097 Mendelsohn Lane in the
R-1-20,000 zoning district.
2. SD-86-001 Goni, request for building site:and design review approval for construction
of a new two-story single family dwelling at 14080 Saratoga-Sunnyvale
Rd., in the R-l-10,000 zoning: district. Also consider granting variance
approval for a carport to be loc. ated 9 ft. from the .front property line where
25 ft. is the required setback at the above address per Chapter 15 of the City
Cede. Variance no longer required.
3. DR-86-028-2 Wayne Miller Investment Co.; request for design review approval of seven
townhomes on .88 acres of vacant property in the C-N zone, located at the
westerly terminus of Pierce Rd., east of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd.
4. UP-86-004 Miller, request for use permit approval of plans to construct a new 450
sq.ft. accessory structure at 20261 La Paloma, in the R-l-10,000 zoning
district.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 2
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR'. Continued
5. DR-86-064 Murano, request for design review approval of plans to construct a new
4,736 sq. ft. two-story single family home at 12413 Parker Ranch Rd., in
the NHR zoning district per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
6. DR-86-069 Johnson, request for design review approval of plans to construct a new
3,744 sq. ft. one-story single family dwelling at 18935 Monte Vista Dr. in
the R-1-40,000 zoning district. per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
7. DR-86-063 Yu, request for design review approval of plans for a 1,771 sq. ft. second
story addition/first floor remodel to an existing one-story single family
home at 14680 Sobey Rd. in the R-l-40,000 zoning district per Chapter 15
of the City Code.
Planner Caldwell noted the following changes to .Public Hearings Consent Calendar:
- Item 1, the Report of the Horticulturalist had been received; approval of this Item would
include removal of Trees no. 5 and 15 from the site.
- Item 3, addition of a Condition 14, to read, "Height not to exceed 25 1/2 ft." Plans
presented were mislabeled 26 ft.; the Use Permit restricts height to 25 1/2 ft.
- Item 5, proposed colors were posted for review of the Planning Commission.
In "Report to the Planning Commission" delete 20 ft. and replace with "proposed home
will be 30 ft. in height." ::
In Technical Information and Staff Analysis'; Proposed Setbacks, Right side: "80 ft."
- Item 6, Letter from adjacent neighbor noting:concerns; of the concerns addressed, the
location of the driveway had not been resolved. Staff recommended Continuation of item.
Planning Commission requested removal of Consent Calendar Item 6.
Commissioner Pines requested removal of Consent Calendar Item 3.
Commissioner Harris requested removal of Consent Calendar Item 4.
HARRIS/SIEGFRIED MOVED' APPROVAL O~ CONSENT CALENDAR WITH
REMOVAL OF ITEMS 3, 4, AND 6. Passed 6'0.
3. DR-86-028-2 Wayne Miller Investment Co.i request for design review approval of seven
townhomes on .88 acres of vacant property in the C-N zone, located at the
westerly terminus of Pierce Rd., east of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd.
Commissioner Pines questioned the Net Parcel Size, stating that his figures indicated 33,410
sq.ft., which did not include reduction of site for the 15 ft. easement; he asked that plans and
Staff Report be corrected.
In addition, Commissioner Pines asked that it be understood that the fence to the rear of the
townhouses, adjacent to Argonaut Shopping Center, was to remain 6 ft. in height. He noted
that second floor bedroom windows of the townhouses overlooked the shopping center, trash
and loading dock areas and did not wish prospective owners of the townhouse to request the
height of the fence to be raised. In response, City Attorney Toppel suggested the addition of a
Condition that the 6 ft. limitation on fence height' be included in the CC&R's. Staff will
confirm technical information and record the net parcel size.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:15 P.M.
Mr. Kurt Anderson, Architect, accepted the proposed Condition and stated they would confu'm
figures in technical information. Commissioner Pines noted he did not wish this Application
approved and later changed, raising the height of.the fence. He acknowledged that a problem
existed; however, the density of the site created such a situation. The Applicant noted that
substantial landscape along the property line would adequately address concerns of prospective
homeowners.
HARRIS/TUCKER MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:17 P.M.
Passed 6-0.
SIEGFR/ED/PINES MOVED APPROVAL DR-86-028-2 WITH A CONDITION ADDED
STATING THAT THE CCNR INCLUDE A PROVISION THAT THE FENCE ALONG THE
SOUTH PROPERTY LINE SHALL NOT EXCEED 6 FT. IN HEIGHT. Passed 6-0.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 3
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR: Continued
4. UP-86-004 Miller, request for use permit hpproval of plans to conswuct a new 450
sq.ft. accessory structure at 20261 La Paloma, in the R-l-10,000 zoning
district.
Commissioner Harris questioned whether a Condition could be added, restricting the addition
of a kitchen to this unit and that this accessory structure not be used as a second unit; the City
Attorney continned that such could be added as a Condition of Approval. Planner Caldwell
noted that Condition 2 addressed the concern raised by Commissioner Harris.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:20 P.M. Th, ere were no speakers.
HARRIS/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:21 P.M.
Passed 6-0.
HARRIS/SIEGFRIED MOVED APPROVAL OF UP-86-004, CONDITION 2 TO INCLUDE
A REFERENCE THAT A KITCHEN MAY NOT BE ADDED TO THE STRUCTURE.
Passed 6-0.
6. DR-86-069 Johnson, request for design review approval of plans to construct a new
3,744 sq. ft. one-story single family dwelling at 18935 Monte Vista Dr. in
the R-1-40,000 zoning distdc~ per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
Planner Caldwell noted the letter received from Mr. Ernst H. Gemassmer, an adjacent property
owner, listing three areas of concem. A revised .site plan was presented showing the proposed
relocation of the driveway; Staff understood that neighbors were not agreeable to this relocation
of the driveway.
With regard to the second concern listed, a revised Exhibit "A" was presented showing the
addition of a Condition 14 to read, "Prior to issuance of a permit, applicant shall submit the
plans to the City Horticulturalist for review of the paved turn around in relationship to the
eucalyptus trees. All recommendations for protection of the eucalyptus trees shall be
incorporated into the project."
With regard to the third concern, the address maps of the City had been changed to reflect that
the address of the new residence would be 18955 Monte Vista Dr.; both the second and third
concerns had been resolved.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:24 P.M.
Mr. Rex Morton, Cobb & Morton Architects, stated that he had met with Mr. Gemassmer to
discuss proposed relocation of the driveway. When the original entrance was unacceptable, a
Civil Engineer was asked to create a new entrance which was safe, related to vegetation and
minimized the cut and fill required; the adjacent property owner had requested that the driveway
be moved an additional 15 ft. Continuance of the Application would be an extraordinary
hardship; he asked that approval be granted with the Condition that a mutually agreeable
solution be found and that such be submitted to the City for final approval.
Mr. Ernst H. Gemassmer, 18935 Monte Vista D~'., Saratoga, was confident that an amicable
solution could be found and was favorable to the .proposal made by Mr. Morton.
SIEGFRIED/HARRIS MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:27 P.M.
Passed 6-0.
The City Attorney stated that the Application could be approved subject to a Condition,
addressing the location of the driveway; however, approval should not be conditioned upon
agreement of the adjacent property owners among themselves. Suggested Condition:
1. Building Permits shall not be issued until the 'driveway location has been approved by the
Planning Commission, and
2. Location of the driveway shall be subject to subsequent approval by the Commission.
HARRIS/PINES MOVED APPROVAL OF DR-86-069 SUBJECT TO ADDITION OF A
CONDITION AS STATED BY THE CITY AT'FORNEY. Passed 6-0.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 4
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
8. Saratoga Village Plan - Consider preliminary public input on draft Saratoga
Village Planning Program
Planning Director Hsia reviewed the status of the'.Saratoga Village Plan and asked the Planning
Commission to direct Staff to prepare a draft; he noted a change in the existing Zoning Map.
The Public Hearing was opened 7:35 P.M.
Mr. Miles Rankin, Village Merchants Association Task Force, made the following comments:
Parking District 6; he asked for further consideration of this proposal by the Commission
In-lieu Fee; asked for consideration of this issue
Favored only one zoning district in the Village
No three story buildings jn the Village
Existing office use; he suggested consideration of a time limit for inappropriate uses
Businesses with intensive uses, i.e., real estate or phone sales offices; possible creation of
a separate standard for intensive office use verses general office use?
Requested clarification of the number of parking spaces gained from parking districts
Design guidelines were too general; he asked' that a "flavor" for the Village be agreed upon
Enforcement of guidelines
Col. E.T. Barco concurred with the comments made by Mr. Rankin.
Mr. Dennis Aidridge, 14607 Aloha Ave., Saratoga, questioned whether the Saratoga Village
Plan was related to the extension of the Village boundary 500 ft. to include Bed and Breakfast
establishments; Chairwoman Burger reviewed the decision of the Commission on this issue.
SIEGFRIED/HARRIS MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:55 P.M.
Passed 6-0.
The Planning Commission reviewed and commented upon the Report from Stephen Lafer,
Consultant, dated February 5, 1987, as follows:
Land Use and Zoning:
Comment 1: Commissioner Tucker asked that a Traffic Study by done. Commissioners
Siegfried and Pines favored the retention of two .zoning districts and noted differences in the
two districts. Consensus reached by the Commission in favor of retaining C-H-1 and C-H-2.
Comment 2: Consensus reached to prohibit the third story on street; however, a third story to
the rear of the building would be allowed. Parking needs to be addressed.
Comment 3: Commissioner Harris noted there was no testimony that would change the plan to
phase out office use at street level; she favored the use of a time limit. The City Attorney stated
that a time period was already specified; he noted the distinction between a non-conforming use
and a non-conforming structure. The question was whether the City would enforce the
removal of a non-conforming use for which the time had expired. A non- conforming office
use at ground level could be legitimized through a use permit and subject to conditions imposed
by the Commission. He confirmed that the devise was already in place as the Code presently
existed. Request made that the report state any applicable Codes; the Commission wished to
see the Code enforced as outlined by the City Att.omey.
Comment 4: The City Attomey stated that the Code defined various types of services; these
definitions were consistent with comments made by the Consultant.
Comment 5: No additional comment made by the Commission.
Vehicular Circulation:
Comment 6: No additional comment made by the Commission.
Comment 7: No comment necessary.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 5
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Design Guidelines:
Comment 1: Commissioner Siegfried noted the ,unspecific nature of design guidelines.
Consensus reached to support the proposed mini-plaza on the south side of the Village.
Comment 2: Design review guidelines need to be specific for the Village.
Comment 3: As above
Comment 4: No additional comment. '.
Comment 5: No additional comment.
Comment 6: Commissioner Harris asked that a limitation regarding size and non-moving
images be placed on neon signs. Chairwoman Burger favored a ban on all neon signs.
Consensus reached that neon signs not be banned, however design and size to be severely
restricted; Chairwoman Burger dissenting.
Comment 7: Commissioner Harris cited comments made at Study Session; consensus that
Sign Ordinance already in place be enforced.
Comment 8: Details to be addressed in Design Review guidelines.
Comment 9: Details to be addressed in Design Review guidelines, concurrence with
Consultant's comment.
Comment 10: Concurrence with Consultant's comment.
Comment 11: Concurrence with Consultant's comment that "all awnings should be canvas."
Parking:
Comment 1: Commissioher Siegfried asked that long term parking requirements be met and
enforced. Consensus that employee and proprietor long term parking be provided and
enforced; in addition a Traffic Study was requested.
Comment 2: Commissioners were favorable to in-lieu fees but asked how other cities handled
similar parking situations. Consensus in favor of in-lieu fees for every parking district.
Comment 3: No comment save that a parking structure was considered a long range issue.
Comment 4: No recommendation at this time; requested a Traffic Study for further information
Commissioner Siegfried questioned the effects of intensification of office use (less square
footage per user) in the Village as well as in Saratoga. In response to Commissioner
Siegfried's comment, the City Attorney stated that the Ordinance did not address this issue
specifically; however, the use permit could regulate intensity of use.
Commissioner Harris noted that a turn around was already being used; a Traffic and parking
study could address the issue. Consensus reached in favor of the turn around; Chairwoman
Burger and Commissioner Siegfried dissented. The Commission requested a detailed study.
Consideration of the establishment of a Design Review Committee as a decision making body;
consensus reached that the Commission wished to retain decision making power in regard to
the Village. However, consideration would be given to the establishment of a design review
committee as an advisory body.
9. DR-86-028-1 Wayne Miller Investment Co.~ request for design review approval of
15,400 sq.ft. retail Center on 1.42 acres of vacant property in the C-N
zone, located east of Saratoga.-Sunnyvale Rd. approximately 300 ft. south
of Cox Ave.
Planning Director Hsia presented the Report to Planning Commission, February 25, 1987,
and noted the revised Condition 16.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 6
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Commissioner Pines questioned sources of fundi.ng referred to in Condition 16; he noted that
the development of this property would cream gre'ater demand for a signal light at the
intersection of Pierce Rd./Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd.. The City Engineer stated that Caltrans
funded traffic signals if an obligation on their part existed and funds were available; he
estimated the cost to be $100,000 for installation 9f the traffic signal with additional expense
for conslraction of a left turn lane or any other ch'anges necessary.
Commissioner Callans questioned the time flame !for installation of the traffic signal and
suggested the possibility of 50% payment by the State for costs incurred; the City Engineer
stated that a commitment had not been received from the State as yet. He reviewed procedures
used to determine an obligation of the State and noted that funding, even when an obligation
was realized, depended upon funds available. He had received indication that this project
would be funded. Commissioner Callans noted that the signalizafion at Herriman Ave./
Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd. extended over a three year period and commented that the proposed
development could be built well before occupancy was allowed due to incomplete traffic
improvements.
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:39 P.M.
Mr. Norm Hulberg, representative of the Applicant, noted that the Traffic Study had been
completed; he stated that the Applicants were prepared to accept the requirements requested.
The question was cost of the traffic signal; he cited comments from the Traffic Study which
stated that a signal was already warranted at the intersection; Commissioner Siegfi-icd
commented that development would substantially increase traffic at this location. Mr. Hulberg
stated that the Applicants were willing to pay a fair share of the cost of a traffic signal.
Chairwoman Burger read the revised Condition 1.6; Mr. Hulberg responded that this was a
reasonable requirement and concurred with the concern stated by Commissioner Callans
regarding the time required to complete the instaliation of necessary traffic modifications. He
confirmed that he was aware of the revision of Condition 16.
The City Attorney reviewed discussions at a Staff level that the cost breakdown would be:
25% from the developer of the City-owned property
25% from the developer of the property under consideration
50% from Caltrans or advanced by the City.
The City Attorney stated that the above percentages were reasonable and appropriate. He noted
concern with respect to the second sentence of Condition 16; once the developer paid their
share of the cost, they had performed their obligation in this respect. He suggested that if the
Commission wished to commit the City to 50% of the cost, then the occupancy provision could
be eliminated.
PINESfrUCKER MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:45 P.M.
Passed 6-0.
Commissioner Siegfried reiterated concerns regarding traffic safety if development were
allowed without the necessary traffic signalization; he would concur if the consensus of the
Commission were to commit the City to 50% of the cost. In response to questions, the City
Engineer responded he knew of no instance where funds put up by a city were reimbursed by
Caltrans. Commissioner Siegfried favored a 50-50 split of the cost to be borne by developers
of this property and the adjacent City-owned property; he stated that he would never agree to
any Condition allowing occupancy of the buildings without a traffic signal at the intersection.
The City Engineer reviewed the position of the COuncil on the City-owned property; it was his
position that if the development were occupied prior to installation of a signal, that no left turn
be allowed exiting the property due to severe visibility problems to the north. Chairwoman
Burger questioned the viability of such a temporary solution.
Commissioner Pines noted for the record that a cOmmiunent of 50% paymen~ for the traffic
signal on the part of the City would be excessive; :he suggested that a 25% reimbursable
commitment would be more appropriate.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 7.
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
The City Engineer urged if there was no traffic signal at this location, and none anticipated in
the near future, there not be a driveway opposite Pierce Rd; the proposed driveway could be
blocked until the installation of a traffic signal. Commissioner Pines noted that a blocked
entrance inferred another entrance. The City AttOrney stated that a series of Conditions could
be used to regulate entrances before installation of a traffic signal.
Commissioner Pines noted the following comments:
Exhibit A-l; according to his figures the gross area is 1.42 acres or 61,855 sq. ft. The
actual net area must still subtract the additional 15 ft. Santa Clara County Flood Control
District easement or 6750 sq. ft. The net square footage then, equals 45,325 sq.ft. He
noted that the project would not be allowed to develop without creating the 15 ft. easement
for the flood control diswict; he cited the definition in Section 1506.620
Modification resulted in only 7.2 % open area of which 99% was behind the buildings;
between the buildings and Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd. only four to five Oak trees remained.
He suggested the addition of trellises to promote plant growth, shade the buildings and
soften the appearance of the front elevation.
- Use of turf block in the easement instead of pavement
- Placement of a bench and trellises near the Creek
- On Exhibit A, 6, to include a guarantee of landscape maintenance
- Prohibition. on window signs
- Hours of operation to be conditioned
- Screening of the transformer when installed, and trash enclosure area
On Traffic/Circulation, allowance for one driveway only
On Signage. he favored similar lettering style; however, size of lettering to be reduced.
Questioned the need for free standing signs in addition to building mounted signs
On Signage. 4.B, questioned the meaning :
On Retail Center., 3, questioned the meaning .and noted that by his calculations, every tree
on site would be removed with the exception of trees in the Creek right-of-way
He noted for the record concern regarding site coverage; there remained only 7% landscaping,
with 92.8% impervious coverage. He favored a limit of impervious coverage in the C-N zone
and noted that this site plan demonstrated his contern.
The City Attorney advised the Commission to renew the sign program proposed by the
Applicant. Commissioner Tucker questioned the' size of proposed signs; Mr. Anderson stated
that it was difficult to ascertain size of space leased by any one tenant; he confirmed that the
signs would not be neon. The Commissioner felt that 15 by 12 inch lettering was excessive.
Commissioner Siegfried asked that the Applicants address the issue of access; Mr. Hulburg
cited a study which showed that a center of the si.ze proposed required more than one
driveway. He concurred that placement of the driveway on the property line between the two
projects created the problem of an immediate turn to the fight or left upon entrance. He favored
building both driveways and barricading one if necessary.
Mr. Gary Black of Barunan-Ashmann, stated thai the preferred driveway design was the one
presented on exhibits; in their opinion, a second driveway was necessary due to constraints of
the site at the second driveway. In addition, them was no "stacking distance" and noted that
congestion would occur at peak hours. He favored the northernmost driveway as shown since
maximum stacking distance was available.
In response to Commissioner Pines' comments a.bove, Mr. Anderson stated that Santa Clara
Water District would not allow the use of tuff bloCk. Use of trellises were not complimentary
to the architecture; however, benches on site were acceptable. In response to Commissioner
Siegfried's concerns, he stated that it would be difficult to add landscaping to the site without
another design review; consideration of elimination of some parking spaces was requested to
allow additional landscaping.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 8
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
BURGER/SIEGFRIED MOVED APPROVAL OF DR-86-028-1 WITH THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS: THE APPLICANT SHALL ENTER INTO A WRITYEN AGREEMENT
WITH THE CITY TO RELOCATE THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY TO THE PROPERTY
LINE AT THE APPLICANT'S EXPENSE IF REQUESTED BY THE CITY TO DO SO;
LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE WILL BE REQUIRED ON SITE; SIGNAGE
PROGRAM TO BE SUBMITtED TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL; A BENCH
TO BE INSTALLED IN THE REAR AREA; THE ELIMINATION OF ONE PARKING
SPACE IN FRONT OF BUILDING A TO PROVIDE FOR EQUIVALENT SQUARE
FOOTAGE OF LANDSCAPING ACROSS THE FRONT OF BUILDING A; REVISED
CONDITION 16.
Planner Caldwell stated that the reason for a revis~xl Condition 16 was that the City could more
effectively negotiate with Caltrans. Commissioner Harris noted concern regarding the
possibility of a 24 hours of operation at this center; the City Attorney reviewed procedures
concerning regulation of 24 hours of operation and signage.
Chairwoman Burger amended the Motion, to eliminate the possibility that the northerly
driveway could be closed at a future date.
Commissioner Pines stated that he would vote against the Motion under consideration. Any
questions regarding parking spaces for the handicapped would be resolved by Code
regulations. Commissioner Harris also stated that she would not vote favorably.
Commissioner Callans noted concern allowing this Center to open without a traffic signal at the
intersection and noted the lengthy process of installing the necessary signal. Commissioner
Siegfried stated that Applicants had been informed that changes were needed to relieve the
expanse of the buildings; he noted that no revisions had been offered and concurred with
concerns expressed by Commissioner Callans.
Chairwoman Burger called for a vote on the amehded Motion as presented above.
Failed 1-5, Commissioners Harris, Siegfried, Pines, Callans, Tucker opposed.
Chairwoman Burger noted for the record that she. voted in favor of the an~ended Motion since
she had introduced it.
Chairwoman Burger recessed the Meeting from'9:50-10:05 P.M.
10. DR-86-062 Lee, request for design review approval of plans to con stxuct a new 7,252
sq. ft. two-story single family dwelling where 6,200 sq. ft. is the maximum
floor area allowed at 21301 Diamond Oaks Ct., in the NHR zoning district
per Chapter 15 of the City Code
Planning Director Hsia presented the Report to the Planning Commission, February 25, 1987,
and noted the three major issues involved. Staff recommended denial of the Application,
Commissioner Harris stated that the Applicant c.alled her and that she had made a site visit. She
questioned the calculation of square footage and asked whether it was due to the underfloor
which might be used as living space; Planner Caldwell confLrmed that it was and added that
lowering the level further east would help. If the new Design Review Ordinance were in place,
and given the slope of the lot, a 2500 sq.ft. house would be allowed; even with the elimination
of the underfloor area, square footage of the proposed house would still be well over that
allowed under the new Ordinance. Color samples were presented and a recommendation made
that earthtones be conditioned a medium to darker tone than submitted.
The Public Heating was opened at 10:10 P.M.
Mr. Bill Heiss, Civil Engineer, addressed issues of bulk and visibility. He noted other homes
in the subdivision that were "three stories" when stepped down; these homes were sometimes
very visible. He questioned the computation of .the underfloor in determining allowable size.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 9
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Mr. Heiss presented a map and an aerial photograph. The proposed house had been aligned
with contours of the lot; using fill to minimize the underfloor area was wasted effort and
needless grading. Visibility of the site was negligible.
Mr. David Pruitt, Architect, stated that the site was sufficiently covered with existing
vegetation. A grey tone was submitted in replacement of the white tone previously submitted.
Applicants were willing to place a deed restriction on the house insuring that the underfloor
area would not be used as living space. The house was designed not to interfere with the
natural flow of water off the property. He responded to questions concerning square footage,
elevation, decks along the back of the house, the possibility of stepping down the house and
the addition of windows to the rear.
HARRIS/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:32 P.M.
Passed 6-0. :
Commissioner Harris concurred that the proposed house was visible only from Comer Dr. and
to the immediate neighbors. She wished to condition the proposed color to be a medium or
darker tone than presented and noted the benefits. of landscaping. In response to a question,
the City Attorney stated that a Condition could be~ added requiring the Applicant to execute and
record an agreement that the underfloor area shall not be converted into living space.
Chairwoman Burger noted that Commissioner Tucker made the site visit.
Planner Caldwell noted the agricultural preserve to the east of the property and asked the
Commission to consider the possibility of a subdivision at some future date in making a
decision on the visibility of the proposed house. Commissioner Siegfried noted the benefit to
be derived from landscaping.
HARRIS/PINES MOVED APPROVAL OF DR~86-062 MAKING THE FINDINGS THAT
1. THE VIEW OF SURROUNDING RESIDENTS WILL BE MITIGATED WITH
LANDSCAPING REQUIRED ACROSS THE EASTERLY ELEVATION ADJACENT TO
THE STRUCTURE. THE COMMISSION HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED
HOUSE WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE VALLEY.
3. THAT THE PERCEPTION OF EXCESSIVE BULK WILL BE MITIGATED BY THE
DESIGN ELEMENT OF A DECK. DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE PROPERTY
THE HOUSE HAS BEEN PLACED ACROSS CONTOUR LINES.
4. THE PROPOSED HOUSE IS COMPATIBLE W1TH HOMES IN THE AREA.
CONDITION 3 TO BE AMENDED TO READ, ."5457 SQUARE FEET"; CHANGING
CONDITION 10 TO READ, "EXTERIOR COLORS SHALL BE MEDIUM TO DARKER
EARTH TONES..."; CONDITION 11 TO STATE THAT THE LANDSCAPING ALONG
THE EASTERN ELEVATION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL AND SHALL
BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A! CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.;
ADDING A CONDITION 16 TO READ, "THE .'APPLICANT SHALL EXECUTE AND
RECORD AN AGREEMENT THAT THE UNDERFLOOR AREA SHALL NOT BE
CONVERTED INTO LIVING SPACE."
HARRIS/PINES AMENDED THE MOTION TO READ, THE WINDOWS CAN BE
REMOVED PER THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THE DECK EXTENDED AS SHOWN IN
EXHIBIT. Passed 6-0.
11. AZO-86-001 City of Saratoga, consideration of an ordinance amending Article 15-56 of
the City Code to modify the p~'ovisions concerning legalization of certain
existing second units. A Negative Declaration has been prepared for this
application. .
The City Attorney reviewed the status of the am6ndment to the Second Unit Ordinance.
The Public Hearing was opened at 10:47 P.M. There were no speakers.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 10
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
SIEGFRIED/HARRIS MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:48 P.M.
Passed 6-0.
Commissioner Pines noted a concern that encouraging property owners to legifimize illegal
units when, in fact, they will fear the expense required or know that these units cannot be
brought up to Code; a reduction of fees will not change the problem. The City Attorney stated
that the main inducement was establishment of a different standard for the issuance of a use
permit, namely, if the unit complies with the housing code, meets fire and safety codes, it
would qualify for a use permit and not be required to meet the standards applied to second
units. In response to Commissioner Tucker's question, the City Attorney defined the criteria
for a legally built unit; he added that the Ordinance placed the burden of proof on the applicant,
which could be difficult to prove.
Commissioner Tucker stated for the record her concern that the City could be responsible if a
Use Permit was acknowledged when standards may not have been met; the City Attorney
responded that in order to obtain the Use Permit the structure would have to be brought up to
Code. He noted that the relevant issue was whether structures comply with the Code at this
time or could be brought into compliance through modification of the structure.
Upon review of the proposed Ordinance, CommiSsioner Tucker felt that requirements were
being relaxed; allowing lesser standards on existing structures that may have been illegally
used as second units or as rentals was not the answer. The Commission should do the upmost
to maintain safe building standards for all residents of the community. To relax these Codes to
the benefit of those who have been illegally providing potentially unsafe housing was not only
unfair, but unsafe. Citizens who remodel their homes are required to meet current codes;
residents desiring second units should also be required to meet these standards. The
Commission has an opportunity to provide safe, desirable housing and at the same time do
away with unsafe or undesirable housing. This could possibly be done with cooperation of
the realtors; she noted the full disclosure law. A realtor, listing a house with a second unit,
could check with the City to insure that a Use Permit had been granted; if not, the City could
investigate and give the owner the opportunity to'bring the structure up to Code or dismantle it.
She was not in favor of providing potentially dangerous, nor substandard housing to any
citizens; certainly seniors are not second rate citizens and deserve better.
The City Attorney commented that the City was not modifying the housing Code nor the
technical Codes listed in Chapter 16; the structure had to comply with these standards as they
currenfiy exist. What will not be applied to existing units are the standards that a_re designed
specifically for second units as contained in the zoning ordinance; however, Section 15-56,030
of the City Code, owner occupancy requirement and the age requirement are still applicable.
He concurred with Commissioner Tucker that the special standards developed by the City for
second unit ordinances were being relaxed; however, the City was not relaxing standards of the
housing code, fire code or any building codes that would be applied.
Commissioner Pines noted that those with unsafe units already knew that and thus would not
come in; Chairwoman Burger concurred. Commissioner Tucker noted that the required
findings were also being reduced in number and Changed in content.
TUCKER/HARRIS RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF AZO-86-002 FOR REASONS
ALREADY STATED. Passed 6-0.
12. AZO-86-002 City of Saratoga, consideration of an ordinance mending Sections
15-80.020 and 15-80.080 of the City Code pertaining to radio and
television antennas. A Negati~,e Declaration has been prepared for this
application. :
The City Attorney noted that individuals who wished to speak on this' issue were no longer
present; he asked that this Item be Continued to the March 25, 1987, Meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 11
FEBRUARY 25, 1987
PUBLIC HEARING Continued
MISCELLANEOUS:
13. EP-87-001 Kovacs, request for an encroachment permit to allow a 4.5 ft. high wooden
fence in the public right-of-way at 14280 Paul Ave. in the R-l-10,000
zoning district per Chapter 14'. of the City Code.
Planning Director Hsia presented the Report to planning Commission, February 25, 1987.
Commissioner Tucker reported on the site visit..
Mr. Joseph Kovacs, Applicant, presented a series of photographs and sketches. He believed
that it was incon'ect that his fence encroached further into the public right-of-way than other
fences along Paul Avenue. The fence on his property was designed to be both decorative and
protective due to the special circumstances on Paul Ave. as well as the fact that he had been
burglarized twice. Reduction of the height of the" fence would completely destroy the middle,
solid section. The applicant felt that the fence was compatible with the surrounding
environment. He called attention to photographs ~ showing the variety of fences in the area and
noted the state of disrepair of many of the fences'in the neighborhood.
Mrs. Maria Kovacs, Applicant, noted that the fence was to protect and beautify their house and
property. The fence was hand built and carefully;designed; the middle section of the fence
would compliment remodeling to be done on the house. She stated that clear visibility was
available to adjacent neighbors.
Mrs. Margaret Sherrill, 14290 Paul Ave., Saratoga, stated that the fence in question was of
particular concern to her. She noted the ramifica.tions of this fence:
Fence was higher than represented since the right-of-way was increased in height in the
last 9-12 months; the fence was actually 5 1/2 ft. in height.
Setting of a precedent for fence heights, design and encroachment of the public
right-of-way. :
Difficulty in making a safe exit from her drix;eway which was within one foot of the fence.
Density of the fence as opposed to other fences in the area, which prohibited clear vision of
small children and pedestrian traffic.
Lack of plans connecting side fencing with the panel of fence already built.
She stated that safety factors were her primary concern; Saratoga had always stood for the
safety, well being and protection of its residents. She presented a photograph taken from her
driveway and noted that the fence was unique in the combination of factors.
Mr. Kovacs responded that the right-of-way had not been raised; he cited the Report of the
City Engineer, January 30, 1987. He stated that the side yard fence had already been planned
and would be compatible with the front yard fencing.
Commissioner Harris noted that a fence at this height would block the view in exiting the
adjacent driveway; Commissioner Siegfried noted the attractiveness of the fence but stated
that he was not in favor of placement of a fence Within 2 ft. of the street. He concurred with
Staff recommendation. Commissioner Tucker concurred that the fence was attractive; she
noted her concern regarding safety, especially for the children of the neighborhood. She also
favored requiring the applicant to lower the fence.
The City Attorney noted that even if the CommisSion required the lowering of the height of the
fence there was the question of granting an encroachment permit; he suggested a condition
stating, "The Applicant shall sign the written form of the encroachment permit which the City
will record." :
Commissioner Harris concurred with Mrs. Sherrilrs statement that granfi ng the request would
set a precedent; she felt that fences over 3 ft. should not be allowed. Commissioner Pines
favored a lowering of the fence; he concurred tha~ there was a danger in exiting the adjacent
driveway and that a precedent would be set by allowing this fence at its present height.
SIEGFRIED/CALLANS MOVED APPROVAL OF AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT WITH
A LOWERING OF THE FENCE TO 3 FT. IN HEIGHT WITH A CONDITION STATING
THAT "THE APPLICANT SHALL SIGN A WR.rF~N ENCROACHMENT PERM1T
WHICH THE CITY WILL RECORD." Passed 6-0.
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FEBRUARY 25, 1987
COMMUNICATIONS:
Written:
1. Minutes of Heritage Preservation CommissiOn dated February 4, 1987. - Noted and filed.
Oral by Commission:
Chairman Burger presented the City Council Report.
AD.|OURNMENT:
The meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 11:35 P.M.
. . ReSpectfully submitted, ..
Carol A. Probst-Caughey
Recording Secretary