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MINUTES
DATE: Tuesday, February 16, 1988 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: Community Center Arts & Crafts Room, 19655 Allendale Ave.
TYPE: Committee-of-the-Whole
Roll Call - Present: Commissioners Burger, Clay, Guch, Siegfried,
Tucker
Absent: Commissioners Harris, Kolstad
Staff: Hsia, Caldwell
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
I. ITEMS OF DISCUSSION
A. DR-87-157 - Chang, 12412 Crayside Lane
Planner Caldwell reviewed the issues of concern to the
Commission at their February 10, 1988 meeting.
Mr. Shih, architect, presented revised plans showing the
pitch of the roof lowered to 6:12 which lowered the height
of the home to 27'6" from 28'6". The revised pitch also
reduced the floor area calculation from 5,251 sq. ft. to
5,014 sq. ft., including 286 sq. ft. double counted area and
42 sq. ft. of porch. The "loft" was also removed from the
original plans.
The Committee generally'agreed that the revised plans met
their concerns. Revised plans were due Friday, February
26th for the March 23rd meeting of the Commission.
B. DR-87-147 - Kao, 12279 Crayside Lane
Planner Caldwell listed~ the concerns expressed by the
Planning Commission on February 10, 1988.
Mr. Shih, architect, reviewed his revised plans and
described the amendment made, including reduction of the
size of one bedroom and the height of the family room, and
elimination of 1 bedroom. The size has been reduced to
4,918 sq. ft. The height has been reduced to 27 ft. and the
roofline broken up to give some relief to the elevations.
The foundation does not parallel the split pad of the lot,
but the roofline was changed.
The Committee concurred that the changes were acceptable.
Revised plans should be submitted by Friday, February 26th
for the March 23rd meeting.
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2/16/88
C. SD-87-020 - Olsen, 15231 ]Quito Road
Planner Caldwell reviewed the requests made by the
Commission on 2/10/88, including setback of proposed homes
from adjacent properties, landscaping to buffer the homes,
size of future homes and the possibilities of a 2-lot
subdivision rather than three. Planner Adar presented a
configuration of a 2-lot subdivision and pointed out that
with 2 lots, the setbacks for the adobe home would conform
to the zoning ordinance.
Mr. Olsen, applicant, 'stated that two lots would make it
economically infeasible to save the adobe home.
Mr. Zambetti, representing the applicant, discussed the pad
locations and stated that the applicant would install 4 ft.
wide mature landscaping along the flag area of parcel B.
The neighbors wanted a deeded, dedicated greenbelt around
the property to protect the existing homeowners. They also
wanted no fencing and assurance that the designation as a
heritage resource would not permit retail uses.
The Committee generally agreed that they could support the
subdivision as long as the adobe home was protected and an
open space easement generally 30' wide and landscaped for
screening purposes was installed around the property. The
Committee also needed to restrict the height and sizes of
homes on parcels B and C..
Mr. Olsen requested an additional study session prior to the
March 23, 1988, regular. meeting. The Committee agreed and
suggested that Mr. Olsen refine his map based upon the input
and meet with the neighbors prior to the next Committee-of-
the-Whole meeting in early March.
II. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
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1988 PLANNING COMMISSION/STAFF RETREAT
MINUTES
February 5, 1988 - 3:30-5:30
Present: Commissioners Harris, Burger, Kolstad, Tucker, Clay
Staff: Hsia, Toppel, Young, Caldwell, Welge, Adar, Calkins .... .
A. Introduction/Review of Handbook
Chairperson Harris welcomed the Commissioners and Staff. Hsia gave
a brief introduction and explained the topic of the first session.
Adar briefly discussed the format and content Of the Desiqn Review
Handbook. The session was ad3ourned at 5:30 p.m.
February 6, 1988 - 8:35 a.m. - 2:30 p.m.
Present: Commissioners Harris, Burger, Kolstad, Tucker, Clay
Staff: Hsia, Toppel, Young, Caldwell, Welge, Adar, Calkins
A. Discussion o__f Design Review Handbook
Chairperson Harris called the session to order at 8:35 a.m. It was
decided that the most effective way to discuss each Commissioners
comments on the Handbook was to go through it page by page.
Page 1
- delete the last sentence of the third paragraph
- insert a statement regarding the relationship between the
Policies and Techniques discussed in the Handbook and the City's
Design Review process
Page 2
- delete the work "excessive" in 'Policy # 1
- add the following "technique" under Policy # 1
"Use architectural features to break-up elevations"
- under Policy # 1, Technique # 1, insert the word "topography" in
place of "ground"
- delete "Table of Contents" page, and show page numbers on page #2
Page 3
-delete the word "excessively" i~ the second sentence
- in the second sentence insert "as" between "way" and "to"
- delete the word "EXCESSIVE" at ~he bottom of the page
Page 4
- use different symbols to represent fill areas
- rewrite the second "Don't"
Page 6
- delete the phrase "a few" in the 1st "Do"
- rewrite and clarify the 2rid "Do"
- add a 3rd "Don't" - "~ely on landscaping to reduce bulk"
- remove rectangular window in "No" sketch '~,
Page ?
- don't label the heights i.e., 26
- delete the 3rd "Don't"
- illustrate the exposed underfloor areas in the sketches
Page 8
- under the "No" sketch, place the large home in the middle of two
smaller homes, and make all the homes appear to be on same size
(width) lots
Page 10
- delete the 3rd "Don't" and insert: "Avoid extreme contrasts in.
color between the structure and the natural terrain" as the new .
3rd "Don't"
Page 11
- delete the cylinder shape in "Yes" sketch
- in the "No" sketch, place the home in front of the hill
Page 12
- show compact plants against the buildings and retaining walls
- show a retaining wall in "Yes" sketch, and illustrate how it can
be screened from view
- add a Tree Appendix modeled after the City of San Jose's
Page 15 & 16
- separate the three different fences in the third sketch
- delete the word "natural" in the second sentence
- rewrite the 3rd sentence as follows: "The use of chain link
fences is prohibited in the hillsides and discouraged in the
flat areas
- include a Fence Regulation Appendix and reference it on page 15
or 16
- Amend sentence #7 to read "set sound walls back from property
line...
- Show the natural contour in sketch # 9
- delete the last sketch on Page # 16
Page 17
- amend the sketches to show more detail on how structural features
can change the line of sight
- identify hillside and flat lot situations
- delete the 2nd "Don't"
Page 19
- amend the 3rd "Do" to read "setback second story portions of
structures"
Page 20
- remove balcony from sketches and focus on landscaping solutions
- use better graphics to identify trees, shrubs, and bushes
Page
- use standard noise symbol
Page 22
- add color to depict light sources
- add a 4th "Do" as follows: "Minimize the number of outdoor
- delete 2nd "Don't" and add "Avoid light, bright and reflective
sources"
Page 24
.- amend technique # 1 statement to read "Locate and design
structure to minimize interference with view"
- show contour in intervals on sketches to illustrate uphill and
downhill situations
Page 25
- add a 3rd "Do" as follows: "Increase distances between
structures".
- identify existing and proposed structures on sketches
Page 26
- delete this page
Page
- add a sketch under "Yes" that shows a home with a hip roof
Page 28
- amend the last sentence to read "The techniques should be
considered in the initial design stage, and must meet State .'
EnerqV guidelines
Page 29
- hand write Technique statements
- amend the 2nd technique to read: "Orient structure for optimum
utilization of sun"
Page S3
- barbecue setback in rear yard is "6' from any property line"
Miscellaneous
- change DO and Don't to DO's and Don'ts
- the illustrations should be consistent for both the "Yes" and
"No" situations.
- repeat the "Policy Statement" on each technique page.
- provide a symbol legend on each page, if necessary
- use colors to highlight critical areas of the sketches
- the sketches of homes should be the type and style that the City
encourages
B. Options For Formal-Review and Adoption of Design Review Handbook
Young discussed the options for'formal review and adoption of the
Handbook. The consensus of the 'Commission was that the review and
adoption process would include' one or more study sessions with
design professionals and other interested individuals. It was
agreed that the purpose of these study sessions would be used to
get input on the Handbooks overall presentation of the adopted
design review policies and techniques.
C. Circulation Element
Discussion of the circulation element update began with a short'
review of State planning law requirements. A circulation element
must cover major transportation routes and facilities and must be
consistent with the land use element. It should deal with the
circulation of people, ideas, and utilities as well as vehicles.
Inclusion of bike and truck routes and scenic highways is optional.
The timeline for the development and adoption of the circulation
element was discussed. The target date for adoption is June, 1989.
Commissioner Burger gave a history of circulation issues in
Saratoga. The main area of concern in the past has been the
northwest hillsides. Various road connections have been considered
in order to improve traffic circulation, but all have met with
public opposition. Proposed connections included:
1. Canyon View to Tollgate - here a lot was created to prevent a 2
lane through road - only an e.mergency access is now feasible;
2. Chrysler/Hillmore, Comer, Wardell, Old Oak to Parker Ranch; and
3. Pike Road to Saratoga Hills Road
The Southwest - Northeast "Swine!' Road was t.he compromise that was
finally negotiated.
Another property discussed was the Kosich property on Saratoga
Avenue and Radoyka. If/when this property is developed, it would
make sense to create a through connection on a circle street, but
some opposition maybe expected from'local residents.
All present agreed that an expansion of truck routes
unadvisable/unnecessary. ' .... ..- "'
The issue of designating Tollgate and other roads as "collectors"
was discussed. Staff was advised to be very careful to clearly
define "collector" for the public, since citizens tend to over-
react to the term.
Highway 85 was discussed briefly. The new element should
incorporate the freeway design agreement negotiated by the City
Council. Also, ·what will happen to the old highway 85 (Saratoga-
Sunnyvale Road)? If it comes under the City's 3urisdiction, what
changes if any, will be necessary? This should also be
considered.
Public transit, van pools, and bus routes were briefly discussed.
Support for transit expansion ;maybe questionable. The idea of
using smaller buses was mentioned, since ridership in Saratoga is
low.
The Commissioners agreed that the best procedure for public
participation in the development/adoption of the element is the
tried and true study sessions/public hearings procedure that has
been used for the recent Safety and Noise Element updates.
After a brief discussion of locations for next year's retreat, the
session was ad3ourned.