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DATE: February 8, 1989 - 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: Civic Theater, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Roll Call: Present: Chairperson Guch, Commissioners Siegfried, Burger, Harris, Tucker,
Kolstad present at 7:30 P.M. Commissioner Tappan present at 7:39 P.M.
Approval of Minutes: Meeting of January 25, 1989
BURGER/TUCKER MOVED APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JANUARY 25, 1989, AS PRE-
SENTED. Passed 5-0-2, Commissioner Harris abstaining, Commissioner Tappan absent.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
Report of Clerk on Posting of Agenda:
Pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this Meeting was properly posted on
February 3, 1988.
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. DR-88-091 Huang, 14590 Deer Springs Ct., request for a single family residence to
V-88-046 exceed the 8 ft. height limit above a major ridge line by 11 feet. Continued
to the Planning Commission meeting of February 22, 1989 to permit sub-
mission of revised plans reducing building height and allowable floor area.
2. DR-88-100 Prolo, 19841 Glen Una Drive, resolution setting forth conditions to approve
a request for design review approval to construct a 2,013 sq. ft. second
story addition to an existing two-story home for a total of 6,822 sq. ft.; and
a variance to exceed the maximum floor area allowed on this site by 2,342
sq. ft., in the R-i-40,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
Public Hearing closed January 25, 1989.
3. DR-88-083 Kermani, 15187 Blue Gum Ct., resolution setting forth conditions to
approve a request for design review approval to construct a 5,981 sq. ft.
single family dwelling in the .R-i-40,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of the
City Code. Public Hearing closed January 25, 1989.
4. V-88-025 Kocir, 12855 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd., request for variance approval to
A-1088.1 allow the floor area standard to be exceeded on a level 29,680 sq. ft. lot in
the R~1-12,500 zoning district. The proposed additions to the existing resi-
dence modifying the previous plans will result in a total floor area on the lot
of 9,100 sq. ft. where 5,220 sq. ft. is currently the maximum allowed. In
addition, variance approval is requested to allow the additions to the resi-
dence to be a minimum of 17 ft. from the exterior side property line where
25 ft. is required. Continued to February 22, 1989, at the request of the
applicant.
5. DR-88-086 Bedard, 21750 Vintage Lane, request for design review approval for a new
5,780 sq. ft. two-story single family dwelling in the NHR zoning district
per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
6. SD-87~023.1 Duncan, 19560 Saratoga-Los Gatos Rd., request for modification to condi-
tion of previously approved subdivision to allow undergrounding'of utilities
along Glen Una Drive to be deferred.
7. SDR-1590.3 Liccardo, 20045 Mendelsohn Lane, request for one-year extension of time
for a three (3) lot subdivision of a 2.64 parcel in the R-ira20,000 zoning dis-
trict per Chapter 14 of the City Code.
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FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR Continued
Chairperson Guch requested removal of Public Hearings Consent Calendar Item 2.
A member of the audience requested removal of Public Hearings Consent Calendar Item 7.
SIEGFRIED/BURGER MOVED APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 3, 5 AND 6.
Passed 6-0-1, Commissioner Tappan absent.
2. DR-88-100 Prolo, 19841 Glen Una Drive, resolution setting forth conditions to approve
a request 'for design review approval to construct a 2,013 sq. ft. second
story addition to an existing two-story home for a total of 6,822 sq. ft.; and
a variance to exceed the maximum floor area allowed on this site by 2,342
sq. ft., in the R-i-40,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
Public Hearing closed January 25, 1989.
Chairperson Guch stated she removed the Item to clarify wording of the Model Resolution.
Planning Director Emslie amended the Model Resolution to read, in part:
The project will minimize the perception of excessive bulk in relation to the immediate neighbor-
hood in that the addition is to an existing two story home.
The project is compatible in terms of bulk and height with those homes within the immediate
area and in the same zoning district in that two story homes exist in the neighborhood.
BURGER/HARRIS MOVED APPROVAL OF DR-88-100 PER THE MODEL RESOLUTION,
AMENDED TO READ.IN PART:
THE PROJECT WILL MINIMIZE THE PERCEPTION OF EXCESSIVE BULK IN RELA-
TION TO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT THE ADDITION IS TO AN
EXISTING TWO STORY HOME.
THE PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE IN TERMS OF BULK AND HEIGHT WITH THOSE
HOMES WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT IN
THAT TWO STORY HOMES EXIST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
Passed 4-2-1, Chairperson Guch, Commissioner Tucker dissenting, Commissioner Tappan absent.
BURGER/SIEGFRIED MOVED APPROVAL OF V-88-043 PER THE MODEL RESOLUTION.
Passed 4-2-1, Chairperson Guch, Commissioner Tucker dissenting, Commissioner Tappan absent.
Commissioner Tappan present at 7:39 P.M.
7. SDR-1590.3 Liccardo, 20045 Mendelsohn Lane, request for one-year extension of time
for a three (3) lot subdivision of a 2.64 parcel in the R-i-20,000 zoning dis-
trict per Chapter 14 of the City Code.
Planning Director Emslie reviewed the Report to the Planning Commission of February 8, 1989.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:40 P.M.
Ms. Jane Farrelly, 20076 Mendelsohn Ln., Saratoga, opposed the extension requested and the
subdivision of the property at 20045 Mendelsohn Ln. for the following reasons:
Site was in a flood control plane and was in a potential flood hazard from Wildcat Creek
An existing sewage problem in the neighborhood would be intensified
An access road would cause problems at the Mendelsohn Ln./Piedmont Rd. intersection which
already carried the often heavy traffic exiting from Montalvo
The increasing high density development of large homes on small lots already endangered the
charming bucolic character of Mcndclsohn Ln; this density would only increase
Ms. Kathy Liccardo, Applicant, reviewed her letter of December 19, 1988; she requested a one-
year extension for this project.
Mr. Rick Rickenmocker, Consulting Civil Engineer, stated he had been retained by Ms. Liccardo.
The Applicant was prevented from completing the project due to circumstances over which she had
little control; however, Ms. Liccardo was now prepared to go forward. He stated that he had been
working diligently on the project and noted the progress made. They were working to complete
the project by the April 17th deadline but such could not be guaranteed.
HARRIS/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:45 P.M. Passed 7-0.
Commissioner Harris noted that she had previously been unable to approve the extension requested
based on wording of the Model Resolution and the Findings required; however, she was able to
grant the request before the Commission at this time.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 3
FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR Continued
Commissioner Siegfried noted the controversy surrounding this Application; the Commission had
carefully considered the project at that time. This was an administrative item; such requests were
usually approved.
BURGER/SIEGFRIED MOVED APPROVAL OF SD-1590.3 PER THE MODEL RESOLUTION.
Passed 7-0.
PUBLIC BEARINGS:
8. SD-88-018 Maynard, 29330 Saratoga-Los Gatos Road, request for tentative map
approval to create a two-lot subdivision of 1.5 and 1.35 acres of partially
developed property in the R-i-40,000 zone district per Chapter 14 of the
City Code. Continued from January 11, 1989.
Planning Director Emslie reviewed the Memorandum Re: SD-88018, dated February 8, 1989.
Planner Jacobson reviewed the Staff Report and presented a map comparing the Maynard property
with adjacent sites.
The Public Hearing was open at 8:50 P.M.
Mr. Doug Adams, Representing the Applicant, commented as follows:
- Cited Staff Report statement,"The Planning Commission will find on the attached map that lots
created will be smaller than adjacent lots. Staff recognizes that smaller lots exist in the vicinity."
- Cited the map presented in the packet and noted that while there were larger lots on both sides of
the site in question, there were smaller parcels to the south of the subject site
- Did not understand the Staff Recommendation; Staff had previously approved this request
- Proposal was for approval of a two-lot subdivision which met the zoning requirements
- Did not believe that there would be any damage or harm that would come to any of the adjoining
lots from approval of this application.
Mr. Don Lucas, 19370 Saratoga-Los Gatos Road, Los Gatos commented as follows:
- Construction of the bridge was not of concern; a bridge could be engineered to cross anything
- Lot size was not necessarily the concern either
- Concern was this highly irregular piece of property; the tail-end of the parcel was a remnant
- Applicants had tried to give this portion of the parcel to the Santa Clara Water District in order to
create a conforming lot
- If the property were to be developed, access from Saratoga-Los Gatos Rd. would be the reason-
able entrance, rather than trying to build a bridge over the creek
- Noted the changing contour of the creek ~vhich occurred during the rainy season
- Granting the Applicant's request would create a non-conforming, completely irregular parcel
- This was the third attempt the Applicant had made to obtain approval of the request
- Precedent had already been set for denying lot splits which created non-conforming parcels
- Respectfully requested that the Commission deny the Application
A response to Chairperson Guch's question regarding access, he stated that he objected to creating
a buildable lot which had only 122 ft. width/frontage; secondly, he objected to taking access for the
southern portion of the site by way of a bridge.
Mr. Frederick Dorr, Property Owner across the Creek, stated that in his deed restriction, and he
believed, in the Applicant's deed restriction, Bainter Avenue had the right-of-way. The outer
corners of the Applicant's property on the south end had not been staked off to show the right-of-
way easement. He asked that the property be resurveyed to ensure that the bridge would not
encroach upon the Bainter Avenue right-of-way.
Ms. Jacita Cymball, Westfall Engineers, commented as follows:
- With regard to Bainter Avenue and its right-of-way, she confirmed that the property line was
within the right-of-way easement
- If Bainter Avenue were ever widened, a portion of the property would have to be used
- There was no question the bridge would ever interfere with Bainter Avenue roadway
- The bridge would clear the creek, which was well-defined and was very deep at this point.
- Confirmed that the bridge itself would not encroach into the right-of-way
- In addition, the road could not extend over the flood plane area, ~vhich ~vas in fact, the creek
- Secondly, while the lot was not rectangular, it did comply with the zoning. ordinance
- Reviewed the dimensions of the proposed bridge per request of Commissioner Harris
- Cited an existing bridge on Bainter Avenue as an example of a similar bridge in the area
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Ms. Sally Lucas, 19370 Saratoga-Los Gatos Road, Saratoga, commented that the creek changed
dramatically during the time they had lived in the area, despite the fact that there had been limited
changes during the past few years. She did not understand how, by dedicating the tail-end of the
property, including the creek, to the Santa Clara Water District in order to create a frontage, would
result in a conforming lot. She disputed the contention of Mr. Adams regarding lot sizes in the
area and cited examples of adjacent lots which were much larger. She concluded that it would take
a major bridge to complete this project; the existing bridge referred to was much smaller in size.
BURGER/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:05 P.M. Passed 7-0
Commissioner Kolstad visited the site and noted the drop in elevation at the rear portion of the site.
He observed the perceived lot sizes as opposed to specific lot lines and felt he could approve the
application as presented. He did not have any problem with the bridge and felt that, if anything,
the bridge would improve the southern portion of this site and the immediate area.
Commissioner Siegfried disagreed with the above comments; this was the third review of this
request. While he could understand the owner's desire to go forward on this application, it raised
a question about the implications of the ordinances that, by giving away a portion of the property to
the Santa Clara Water District, a non-conforming lot could be converted into a conforming lot. The
question was, did such meet the intent of the ordinance? He felt that it did not. It would be
difficult to vote against an application that conformed to the ordinance requirements; however, if
the majority of the Commis-sion wished to approve the Application, he asked that severe
restrictions be placed on any house built on the lower portion of the site and noted the visibility of
this house.
Commissioner Burger reviewed the history of the application and noted that the City Council's
decision clearly reflected the viewpoint of the neighbors. She would not approve the application as
presented and noted that the solution presented in an attempt to create a conforming lot, was one of
the most convoluted approaches she had seen. She would not be voting in favor of the lot split.
Commissioner Tucker stated she would be voting in favor of the Application; it was a conforming
lot. In addition, she felt the access off Bainter Avenue may in fact, be safer than access from
Saratoga-Los Gatos Road. She saw no reason not to go forward with this application.
Commissioner Tappan abstained on this item, having not been present for the previous hearing.
Commissioner Harris concurred with Staff Report statement, "Staff feels that developing new lots
in the midst of an established residential neighborhood presents extraordinary issues of sensitivity
and compatibility..." She cited previous problems with this Application and felt very strongly
about the construction of a bridge in this neighborhood; such would be incompatible with the exist-
ing neighborhood. She could not make Finding 2, "The site is physically suitable for this
development at this density..."; installing a bridge of the size proposed would significantly impact
the rural character of this neighborhood.
Chairperson Guch concurred with Commissioner Burger's comments.
SIEGFRIED/BURGER MOVED TO DENY SD-88-018. PASSED 4-2-1, COMMISSIONERS
KOLSTAD, TUCKER DISSENTING; COMMISSIONER TAPPAN ABSTAINING.
9. SD-88-013 Rivoir, 20411 Hill Ave., request for building site approval on two parcels
· measuring 27, 704 and 28,837 sq. ft. in the R-I-20,000 zone district per
Chapter 14 of the City Code. Continued from January 25, 1989.
Commissioner Burger reported on the land use visit.
Chairperson Guch noted the letter received from Coats Consulting, dated February 3, 1989.
Planning Director Emslie and Planner Jacobson reviewed the Report to the Planning Commission.
The City Attorney pointed out that the garage on the Smith property was located directly on the
property line. The City did not have any information whether the structure was legally constructed
~n the first place; however, even if it was legally constructed, the garage had been there for some
time. By being on the property line, it was a non-conforming structure and a non-conforming
accessory structure could not be grandfathered. Therefore, even making the assumption that the
garage was legally constructed, whatever amortization may have applied to the garage, it had long
since expired.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 5
FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
The City Attorney continued, stating that the City could, if it so wished, issue an abatement order
on the Smith garage as a non-conforming structure not in compliance with setback requirements.
This fact needed to be taken into account in the deliberations of the Commission on the extent to
which they may require this Applicant to accommodate the garage on the Smith property.
Commissioner Siegfried questioned the outcrime, if the Smith garage predated City requirements.
the City Attorney replied that upon establishment of the City's zoning, it would have become a
non-conforming structure. Even if it was legally created, as soon as the City established a setback
requirement through the adoption of the Zoning Ordinance, the structure became non-conforming.
The owner would then be entitled to a reasonable time to allow the garage to be located on the
property line; then, it would have to be removed. The garage had been there ten or fifteen years--
beyond whatever time the Ordinance provided for the elimination of non-conforming structures.
The public hearing was opened at 8:27 P.M.
Mr. Bill Heiss, consulting civil engineer, commented as follows:
- Reviewed the history of these lots
Bonnie Brae Map originally created 17 lots, Vine Street, Pleasant Avenue and Hill Avenue
Streets were dedicated to public forever but not accepted by County in 1906 which predated the
City and were not improved; however, they were dedicated and are public right-of-ways
- Chain of acquisition by the Rivoir's and the Smith's were separate transactions involving indi-
vidual lots which are legal; however, some are non-conforming because of their size
- Building site approval was obtained in 1987 for Lots 14, 15 and 16
- The original approval included an agreement to Master Plan the rest of the Rivoir property in
cooperation with the City
Implementation of the Master Plan consisted of a reversion to acreage which combined some
lots and eliminated others resulting in two lots instead of five; access was from Vine Street
Such was intended to help mitigate the concerns about Vine Street
The Smith property accesses Hill Avenue with existing asphalt driveways, a circular drive
servicing the home and its guests, but a separate driveway accesses for the garage
When, and if, the Smith property were developed, some lot lines would probably disappear and
a cul-de-sac could be formed; this would be a logical way for the property to develop
- Proposal before City for parcels E and F contemplated a minimum access road within Vine St.
This was a logical way to proceed since only three parcels would access Onto Vine St. and such
would have the least impact on neighborhood; in addition, this proposal would mitigate some
concerns and address the problem of the Rivoir driveway and the Smith garage
Proposal presented was to construct a minimum access road to ensure a full 20 ft. of clearance
between Mrs. Smith's driveway and the new road
This access road would narrow in the proximity of the Oak tree, and although such was not
supported by City Engineer; it was possible to get 15 ft. of clearance and still protect Oak
- Applicants proposed a small retainingwall about 3 ft from Oak tree and 15 ft of roadway up to
center line of Vine Street which would still provide a full 20 ft. distance to the Smith garage
- Applicants would build a minimum access road on their side of center line which worked fine
except in proximity of the Oak tree; the road would have to be narrowcd to protect the tree
Plan showed 14 ft width from the retaining wall to the center line of Vine St.; possibly, a 15 ft.
width with a 3 ft. clearance from oak to road may be possible
Within the Rivoir site, the road would widen to 18 ft., jog and then continue at a 14-15 ft width
Beyond the Oak, toward parcels E and F, road would fully be widened to 18 ft.; this was best
way to ensure a full 20 ft. from minimum access road to Smith garage
Asked that Condition 18 be amended to allow a road narrowing to, perhaps, 15 ft.
Wished to pursue not requiring a change in Mr. Rivoir's driveway; the existing rock wall and
Oak tree would in effect be destroyed if this driveway were to moved
- With two driveways, it was not unreasonable to ask that they remain as they presently existed;
it was not an uncommon situation to have two driveways 10 ~. apart.
- Applicants felt a minimum access road didn't fall into the category of a driveway; in this case,
the minimum access road was a private drive for three homes, not a public road
- With full development of the property, there might be a total of 12 lots
- This configuration with two driveways indicated that drivers should exercise proper caution as
they approach Hill Ave. as opposed to a T-intersection of two public streets
- A modification to the Conditions of Approval was requested to address this situation
- Stated that developing Vine Street had unfortunately become a source of conflict between the
two families; this proposal represented the correct way to deal with Vine St. as a minimum
access road within the right-of-way
- This proposal would not satisfy everyone; however, the Smith garage would in time not exist
and development of the Smith property would trigger a requirement to remove the non-
conforming structure as part of the development
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FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Mr. Heiss continued his comments ad follows:
This short-term solution with a 20 ft. clearance to the garage was reasonable.
Asked that Conditions include this modification, eliminating further potential for conflict
Commissioner Siegfried felt that access to Vine St. could be made well away from the major Oak
tree (18 inches in diameter) even if smaller Oaks were impacted; Mr. Hciss explained that prior
evaluation of the Rivoir property showed that a retaining wall would be necessary. The Oak tree's
root structure could be preserved with air holes, etc:, in the new paving.
Mr. Coats, Representing the Smith family, presented Exhibits and commented as follows:
Provided additional history and clarified the status of the existing road
Their concern was the significant safety problem created for Smith family
When the Planning Commission's decision was appealed, the City Council denied the Appeal
because they felt it was an inappropriate time to discuss the access to these lots
However, the Council unanimously favored amending the access via Vine St. per Exhibit 1
Exhibit 2 depicted a possible solution presented by Applicant's engineer--that diagram accurately
reflected an agreement previously reached with Mr. Rivoir
Problem today was whether to abandon or continue the non-acceptance of the easement in order
to create a private road; the City Council was not convinced that the existing road had to be a.
public right-of-way
With respect to the existing right-of-way, it is not a City right-of-way
Smith garage was not on the property line; the right-of-way was still under private ownership
In light of safety issues, it would be appropriate now to abandon that process
Options were reviewed and photos intended to show a significant safety hazard, were presented
Without stopping Mr. Rivoir or subsequent property owners from developing these two parcels,.
the Smith's asked that their family not be endangered which occurred when vehicles were
backed out of the garage
- Exhibit 2 was the proposal presented at the City Council hearing
- Mrs. Smith did not wish to have a one-sided situation where she would receive land from the
Rivoirs and give nothing in return; she proposed that additional land on her side of the theoret-
ical center line given back to Mr. Rivoir, who would then receive more land than the Smith's
- Exhibit 3 called for the reconstruction of the rock wall entrance; in an agreement reached, the
Smiths would use materials that matched this element.
- Design elements surrounding the rock wall had been put to rest.
- Summarized that they wished to see the configuration presented by the Applicant reversed
- From an engineering and safety point of view, there would appear to be no difference; however,
from a safety standpoint, there would be a resolution of the safety hazard to the Smith family
- Confirmed that Oak trees would be lost by the proposal they espoused
Mr. Keith Miller, Vickery Ln., Saratoga, stated he had used Vine Street for years; he had not en-
countered problems with the Smith driveway, unless cars were parked on-site. The Rivoir drive-
way and the stone wall had existed for a long time and were attractive features for the area.
Mr. Bill Plimpton, Representing Mr. Joseph Waller of 20420 Hill St., stated it was important to
maintain access onto Vine St. in its present configuration. In designing homes for Lots 14 and 15,
efforts had been made to minimize impacts on the neighborhood. A minimum access road within
the Vine St. easement was the best solution; he did not object to narrowing the entrance.
Mr. Heiss added the following Comments:
With respect to Vine St. being a plan line, language in the Bonnie Brae Owner's Certificate
stated, "We hereby dedicate the streets as shown on the accompanying map, to the use of the
public forever." This was the way it existed today, as a plan line, if not an actual dedication
-. With respect to the Smith's design, this alternative was evaluated by both parties; Applicants felt
the resulting impacts would be significant. He noted the rather steep climb of the Rivoir drive-
way; a 5 ft. retaining wall extending 200 ft. with extensive grading and fill would be required
Mr. Richard Rivoir, Applicant, stated that he had conferred with the Smiths but they were unable
to agree; he reviewed the history of this Application and added that he had attempted to address the
Smith's objections by combining some of the lots; this was done voluntarily. He noted that if he
did not own Lot G, they would not be having this discussion; in addition, if the Smith's non-
conforming building was brought up to Code, there would be no problem.
SIEGFRIED/HARRIS MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:12 P.M. Passed 7-0.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 7
FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
In response to Commissioner Harris' question, the City Attorney stated that this access was dedi-
cated to the public, although this dedication had not been accepted by the City; as such it was a
private road and was shown on the map. Mr. Coats was incorrect in saying that such was to be
ignored for purposes of determining the property line.
If the road were ever abandoned, it would become a private road in the sense that it would not be
subject to any outstanding dedication. He did not see the City entertaining thoughts of relinquish-
ing or abandoning the dedication until it was determined whether any portion of the road was
needed. The Smith property was not yet developed and future circulation patters were unknown.
Until such time as the ultimate use of the dedication were determined, the City would not consider
abandoning the roadway.
With respect to the claim that Mr. Rivoir could use the other 20 ft.; that was an offer giving him
what he already had. He was entitled to use the entire 40 ft. because that dedication was for the
benefit of his property. It was not a matter that he was entitled to 20 ft. and Mrs. Smith being
entitled to the other 20 ft. The right-of-way was for the benefit of the entire subdivision; that
benefit still remains outstanding even if the dedication had not been accepted by the City.
The City Attorney added that if the Commission were to accept the proposal made by Mr. Coats,
Mr. Rivoir would have to be required to made a dedication of what was not his property; now the
Smith's representative was suggesting a road beyond the boundaries of a 40 ft. right-of-way.
In response to Commissioner Burger's question, the City Attorney stated that Vine St. was the
legal means of access to the two lots under consideration; the only question was, where within the
right-of-way, was the road to be built? There was confusion about the distinction of accepting or
not accepting the dedication; even though the City had not accepted the dedication, it did not mean
that the two lots in question did not have a legal meang of access over that dedicated right-of-way.
If Mr. Rivoir were not the Applicant, the Commission would not be having this discussion.
Commissioner Harris commented as follows:
Despite Mr. Coats' concerns, the safest place for the Smith garage would be to relocate it
The Smith garage was a non-conforming structure and was in a very undesirable location; in
addition, there was plenty of property on the Smith parcel for the garage to be relocated
Noted the importance of preservation of the Oak trees
A narrow driveway was more aesthetic and would discourage the general public from using it
Did not object to narrowing the drive to 14 ft; such was done throughout the City to accom-
modate large trees or to avoid excessive grading
A 200 ft. retaining wall would be unsightly and out of keeping with the area
Wished to retain the stone wall rather than having an extensive retaining wall
- Supported the Rivoir's design alternative, having the driveway cross the present right-of-way
and narro~ving the entrance to 14 ft.
Commissioner Kolstad stated that he had visited the site; he felt that the safety issue was overrated.
The Rivoir des'ign proposal flowed better; the Smith proposal did not make sense. He was in favor
of the Application as proposed.
Commissioner Siegfried stated he initially favored something similar to the Smith proposal; how-
ever, he now felt that the Rivoir proposal with a right-of-way was the best alternative, would pre-
serve the Oak trees and would be safer in that traffic would not be passing by the Smith driveway.
Commissioner Tappan agreed; the issue was the non-conforming structure which was a safety
hazard; there was plenty of space on the Smith parcel to move the garage. He would support the
Application as presented.
Commissioner Tucker was favorable to the Application; however, she did have concerns with the
14 ft. driveway width. In response to her question, the City Attorney confirmed that the City
would have jurisdiction to require future developers of property in the area, to widen the road.
Commissioner Burger concurred with the above comments of other Commissioners.
Chairperson Guch stated she was saddened by the conflict between the two neighbors; however,
from a planning standpoint, it was logical to use the right-of-way. While she would pretYr .to have
an 18 ft. right-of-way, if the Commission would accept the 14-15 ft. width, she would not offer a
strong objection. Moving the roadway closer to the Rivoirs or going through the Rivoir's drive-
way did not make sense when a logical solution existed. She supported Staff Recommendation
that the minimum access roadway be moved as far as possible away from the Smith garage even
though it was a non-conforming structure.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 8
FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
SIEGFRIED/TUCKER MOVED APPROVAL OF SD-88-013 WITH AN 18 FT. WIDE MINI-
MUM ACCESS ROAD CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY
ALLOWING AS GREAT A DISTANCE AS IS PRACTICAL BUT WHICH PRESERVES THE
OAK TREE AT HILL AVENUE AND ALLOWING THE ACCESS TO NARROW TO 14 FT.
AT THE ENTRANCE. Passed 7-0.
Break: 9:30 -9:45 P.M.
10. DR-88-076 Yoshioka, 20570 Prospect Road, request for design review, tentative map
SD-88-016 and use permit approval to construct ten, two-story, 2,476 sq. ft., condo-
UP-88-013 minium units; create a two-lot subdivision of 53,575 sq. ft. and 23,090 sq.
ft., and use permit approval to allow a residential use in the neighborhood
commercial zone district per Chapters 14 and 15 of the City Code.
Commissioner Burger reported on the land use visit.
Planning Director Emslie and Planner Jacobson reviewed the Report to the Planning Commission.
Chairperson Guch introduced the following letters into the record:
- Thomas A Morgan, 20612 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, February 2, 1989
- Dennis Albrecht, 20614 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, February 5, 1.989
- Thomas and Elfriede A. Aykroyd 20608 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, February 7, 1989.
The Public Hearing was opened at 9:50 P.M.
Mr. Paul Tai, Project Design Engineer, commented as follows:
- Noted that the property owner had lived on-site for more than thirty years and intended to con-
tinue doing so; the owner wished to see a quality development on this site
Reviewed the history of the Application and noted the dimensions and conditions of the site
Due to land costs, shape of the property and the demand for condominium units--especially
adjacent to commercial development, the Application was submitted as shown
A medium type of density was desired; 10 condominium units were proposed for this site; such
would make the project economically feasible
Units would be luxury accommodations, 2400-2500 sq. ft. units with a two-car garage; he cited
the unique design for the deck and the solarium area which prevented privacy intrusion
Noted the height limitation imposed and reviewed the proposed materials and colors
Mr. Thomas Morgan commented as follows:
- Despite relatively short notice of the Hearing, a petition circulated was signed by 15 individuals
- Cited the flooding in 1977; since that time, the Parker Ranch development had occurred; he was
concerned regarding the lower elevation of this property which would channel drainage to the
site as well as onto adjacent properties
- Questioned the density proposed, the two-story element and the assertion that privacy impacts
would not result from the second story deck area; in addition, he wondered why the units would
not face the creek area
- Asked that the project be redesigned with the neighborhood in mind, lo~vering the density and
height proposed and consideration for the preservation of the existing trees
- Residents were favorable to a residential development on-site
Mr. Thomas Ayrkoyd read into the record his letter cited above, objecting to this high density
project ten feet from his property and the resulting privacy intrusion.
Mr. Harlen Snyder, 20602 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, concurred w~?h the above caromed/5' a,,zdre-
quested reconsideration of a second story element and the density proposed. Be was concerned
about noise impacts and the lack of compatibility with the existing residential homes.
Mr. Ken Fontus, 12056 James Town Ct., Saratoga, stated that his home was a single story build-
ing; the development as proposed would eliminate any privacy in their rear yard area as well as in
some portions of their home. He felt parking would be inadequate and asked that single family
units be placed on this site.
Mr. Dennis Albrecht, 20614 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, re-emphasized comments made in his letter; in
addition, he objected to the peach color and stucco design proposed.
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Mr. Jack Styles, 20626 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, concurred with the above speakers and strongly
objected to the design and colors proposed; he asked that the development be single story units.
Ms. Jane Styles, 20626 Ritanna Ct., Saratoga, stated that two homes which backed up to the
Applicant's property were split level; due to construction, the main living portion of these homes
was elevated approximately four feet from the grade. She cited the resulting privacy impacts.
The Public Hearing remained open.
Commissioner Kolstad commented as follows:
- While he preferred single family units, condominiums were acceptable
- Requested better exhibits showing the quality of architectural design and a comprehensive land-
scaping plan showing heavy landscape screening and designs for the open space areas
Asked for additional guest parking with a ratio of one guest space per unit
Wished to see greater setbacks, less density, less repetition of design which would reduce bulk,
elimination of privacy impacts
Stated that he would have to consider the proposed colors in order to assess compatibility ~vith
the neighborhood
Commissioner Harris commented as follows:
Noted the Commission's sensitivity to adjacent commercial/residential uses (Saratoga Oaks
Commercial Development)
Stated that there were no openings between the units; residents to the rear would see a massive
expanse of unbroken building
In addition, there was insufficient architectural interest, insufficient area for landscaping
- Proposed units were too close to each other and had insufficient setbacks from the adjacent
residential; color proposed was probably incompatible
- Questioned why the units were not orientated toward the creek; Unit 9 received no benefit at all
Commissioner Siegfried echoed the concerns raised; if the project were approved at 10 units,' a
later application to develop that portion of the site now occupied by the property owner, would
further magnify the problems. He suggested that a variety in size of the units be considered along
with a overall reduction in project density. Finally, he asked that usable common area be included
in the development which would make the project more compatible with the adjacent residential.
Commissioner Burger commented as follows:
Stated she had strong feelings about the proposal and they were all negative; stated she had
reservations with other.previously approved condominium developments
Noted the narrow deep lot in this case and felt that the attempt was being made to overbuild
The project was far too dense; she felt that no more than 6 units could be accommodated on-site
Asked that setbacks be increased and a combination of one and two story units be incorporated
In addition, the 2400-2500 sq. ft. units were too large; the project had to be redesigned
Commissioner Tucker stated she had strong concerns about the density, setbacks and height pro-
posed; she wished to see the mass broken up and agreed that 6 units was much more acceptable.
She was not opposed to condominiums especially between a commercial and residential uses.
Commissioner Tappan commented as follows:
- Was concerned about density although he did not wish to suggest any specific number of units
- Requested a detailed landscaping plan which considered screening the adjacent properties
- There were attractive ways to incorporate one and two elements into a design; this proposal
presented a "walled" effect which was not pleasing to the eye and presented privacy intrusions
It would be useful to overlay existing properties and lot configurations relative to this project
Chairperson Guch agreed with the other Commissioners; in addition she had concerns regarding
the access of this property and requested information on traffic impacts onto Prospect Ave. The
units proposed were much too bulky and boxy in appearance; as such, they were impaetful and
intrusive. She was unfavorable to the color and style proposed. The project required a redesign
showing a variety of roof lines, a combination of one and two story units with the two story units
closer to the commercial site; the project was too dense. She would not approve 8-10 units on-site.
KOLSTAD/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CONTINUE DR-88-076, SD-88-016 AND UP-88013 TO
MARCH 8, 1989. Passed 7-0.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
11. DR-88-080 Mollard, 13977 Albar Court, request for design review and variance ap
V-88-001 proval to construct a 6,449 sq. ft., two-story home~ with an attached 3-car
garage in the NHR zone district per Chapter 15 of the City Code. The
variance request is to exceed the maximum allowed floor area by 234 sq. ft.
Commissioner Kolstad reported on the land use visit.
Planning Director Eroslie reviewed the Report to the Planning Commission, February 8, 1989.
The Public Hearing was opened at 10:34 P.M.
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Mr. Wendall Roscoe, Designer, stated that the Applicant's were unhappy with the former
Architect's proposal, specifically the orientation of the house and the size of the living, dining and
master bedroom areas. When he was contacted, he re-oriented the home and rearranged the living
space for the home. He felt a reduction of 100 sq. ft. could be done; however, he was unsure
whether additional square footage could be eliminated without modifying the foundation and/or
changing the redesigncd living areas. The house complied with the 26 ft. height requirement.
Mr. Ray Mollard, Applicant, favored the new layout and stated that they needed an exercise room.
HARRIS/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:48 P.M. Passed 7-0
Commissioner Tappan stated the Applicant had not provided a reason for granting a Variance.
Commissioner Siegfried agreed; however, the proposed design was beautiful.
Commissioner Burger concurred that she could not make the necessary Findings; she cited the
Commission's recent efforts on the Design Review Ordinance and was reluctant to make exception
for a few hundred square feet; soon every applicant would require similar consideration.
Commissioner Kolstad also could not made the Findings required.
SIEGFRIED/HARRIS MOVED TO CONTINUE DR-88-080, V-88-001 TO MARCH 8, '1989.
Passed 7-0.
12. DR-88-089 Schaller, 18840 Ten Acres Rd., request for design review approval for a
new 6,098 sq. ft. two-story single family dwelling in the R-i-40,000 zone
district per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
Commissioner Kolstad reported on the land use visit.
Planning Director Emslie reviewed the Report to the Planning Commission, February 8, 1989.
The Public Hearing was opened at 11:00.
Mr. Kevin Schaller, Applicant, stated that before the project was undertaken, Ordinance guide-
lines were reviewed in order to conform with such; he reviewed the design, architecture and land-
scaping proposed. Photographs of the property and adjacent homes were presented to show the
variety of designs in the area. He added that this was the third revision of the plans.
Mr. Peter Fera, 18801 Ten Acres Rd., Saratoga, was impressed by the drawings presented by the
Applicant; the design would be an asset to the neighborhood.
SIEGFRIED/KOLSTAD MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:06 P.M. Passed
7-0.
Commissioner Siegfried noted the existing landscape scre.ening, the elevation proposed, the parcel
size and the fact that this Application met all the Ordinance requirements and questioned what else
could be asked of this Applicant. While the design was different, it was well executed.
Commissioner Burger concurred; she noted that the neighborhood was changing. She was im-
pressed with the design and the setbacks proposed.
Commissioner Kolstad commented that most of the homes in the area were 25-30 year old homes;
this Application would be precedent setting for the five lot subdivision and a benchmark for other
homes. While he initially had questions, he would accept the Commission's decision on this Item.
Commissioner Tucker did not have problems with this Application due to the significant setbacks
from the street; however, she would not guarantee approval of other, similar houses.
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FEBRUARY 8, 1989
PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
TUCKER/BURGER MOVED TO APPROVE DR-88-089 PER THE MODEL RESOLUTION.
Passed 7-0.
DIRECTOR'S ITEMS:
1. Draft Memo to City Council Re: Appeal of SD-88-006, Saviano, 13502 Pierce Rd.
Consensus reached to accept the Draft Memo as presented.
2. Upcoming Planning applications and projects, - Noted and filed~
3. Reviewed administrative changes made by Staff to plans approved by the Planning Commis-
sion for two projects on Oak P1.; such changes were viewed as inappropriate modifications
because of the potentially substantial impacts. Consensus reached that the request for modifi-
cations would be heard by the Commission.
COMMISSION ITEMS: None.
COMMUNICATIONS:
Written:
1. Committee-of-the-Whole Report - January 17,1989, - Noted and filed.
· 2. Minutes of Heritage Preservation Commission of January 18,1989, - Noted and filed.
Oral by Commission:
Commissioner Kolstad reported on the Meeting of the City Council of February 1, 1989.
AD,IOURNMENT:
The Meeting of the Planning Commission was adjourned at 11:25 P.M.
Carol A. P;obst-Caug~
CITY OF SARATOGA PLANNING COMMISSION
REPORT
DATE: Tuesday, January 31, 1989 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: Community Center Arts & Crafts Room, 19655 Allendale Ave.
TYPE: Committee-of-the-Whole
I. ITEMS OF DISCUSSION
A. Written correspondence from Bert Martel - Discussion of
concerns about recent grading at 19431 San Marcos Road.
The Planning Director reviewed the permit history and
current conditions for the recent grading, retaining wall
and fence construction at 19431 San Marcos Road. The
Director indicated that the Chief Building Official visited
the site and determined that no violations to grading
procedures or codes were present. The Director went on to
describe the extent of the recent construction. The side
and rear yard of 19431 San Marcos Road was raised and
leveled to install landscaping and a lawn. In order to
complete this grading, a 2-1/2 to 3 foot retaining wall was
constructed near the property line at the top of the creek
bank. The wall was constructed of wood members and was not
subject to building permits and ~nspections. The Director
also reported on landscape irrigation problems noted by the
Building Official which were corrected by the property
owner. The Director also mentioned that a separate
retaining wall apparently on the neighbors property was in a
state of disrepair. The Director also called attention to a
recent letter from Bert Martel. which indicated that the
concerns are neighborhood wide and that this is not an issue
isolated to his property or interest.
The nearby property owners were in attendance and spoke to
concerns regarding increased hazard due to flooding because
of the recent grading. Concerns included creek bank
failure, increased vegetation and debris in the creek and
maintenance of the drainage system.
The Planning Commission concluded that the creeks and
natural drainage ways are significant concerns especially
during peak rainfall periods.
The Planning Commission requested that the neighbors and the
City Engineer meet to discuss specific concerns and
solutions. The Planning Commission also requested that a
specific proposal addressing neighborhood concerns be
brought back to the Planning Commission at a study session.
The Planning Director will arrange for the parties to meet
as soon as possible ....
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B. Les Maisons Provencal - Review of further details on the
senior care facility
The developers presented recent architectural renderings for
the congregate senior care facility. The applicants
requested an additional study session on February 14, 1989
to discuss the relationship between the senior care and the
residential portion of the development.
The discussion ensued between the Planning Commission and
the developer regarding the senior care facility. In
response to a Planning Commission concern, the developers
explained the age restrictions and how the different age
groups would interact. The developers also indicated that
townhouse or cottage units would be approximately 1400 sq.
ft. Lastly, the developers responded to the Planning
Commission questions regarding the long term financial
security of the project.
The developers requested an additional study session on
February 28, 1989 to present the relationship between the
residential and senior sections of the project.
The developers and senior representative, Andy Beverett,
also provided an update of the air quality research which
has taken place recently. The Planning Commission looked
forward to receiving additional information with regard to
dissipation rates from computer models, possible filtration
systems and air intake locations.
C. Mike Kermani - 15187 Blue Gum-Ct., request for design review
and variance approvals to construct a 6,200 sq. ft. single
family dwelling in the R-1-40,000 zone.
The Director indicated that the applicant was able to comply
with the code allowance for floor area without the study
session.
D. Huang - 14590 Deer Spring Ct., consideration of revised
plans showing a floor area reduction.
The applicants, their architect and the adjoining neighbor
were present to discuss revised plans which show reduction
in floor area and building height above the ridgeline.
With regard to the square footage, the Planning Commission
agreed that the reduced floor area was necessary as findings
to justify a variance were not present.
Committee-of-the-Whole Report
1/31/89
With regard to the height above the ridge line, the Planning
Commission received the input of the adjoining neighbor most
directly impacted by the building height. The neighbor
reviewed the plans and indicated that the height reduction
proposed was beneficial to his previous concerns and that
existing and proposed landscaping will mitigate the small
area where increased height above the major ridge line was
proposed. The Planning Commission concurred that the
findings were present to consider the variance for the
ridge line height.
E. Draft Revision to the Commercial Districts
The City Attorney was present to brief the Planning
Commission on the changes proposed for all commercial
districts in the City. The City Attorney then reviewed his
memorandum which detailed the specific changes proposed.
After receiving the Attorney's report, the Planning
Commission responded with questions and concerns. The
Planning Commission concluded that bed and breakfast
establishments should remain as conditionally permitted
uses; and that medical clinics should be converted from
permitted to conditionally permitted uses.
The Planning Commission also discussed with the Attorney the
applicability of the revisions to maintenance issues now
experienced with some commercial areas.
II. ADJOURNMENT
Respectfully submitted
Planning Director