HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-12-1990 Planning Commission Minutes CITY OF SARATOGA PLANNING CONNISSION
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DATE: December 12, 1990 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue,
Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Roll Call: Chairperson Burger, Commissioners Caldwell, Moran, and
Tappan. Commissioner Tucker was absent.
pledge of Allegiance
Approval of Minutes Of NoVember 14, 1990:
Commissioner Cald~ell requested'that on page 6 paragraph 3 the
second sentence reading "She felt the overall bulk and density
issues, which were raised in the past, have been addressed" be
deleted and requested that the following be added to the end of the
first sentence: "...because it demonstrates some decrease in
overall bulk and density and some increase in usable open space
than the earlier proposals. However, serious problems remain." In
that same paragraph in the seventh line from the bottom of the
paragraph before the sentence beginning "She also suggested..." she
requested insertion of a sentence reading "Staff's July report
states that most of the recent townhome developments approved in
Saratoga are about nine units per acre. In Commissioner Caldwell's
opinion, this standard is the type of density that is appropriate
for the site."
Commissioner Caldwell noted that on page 10 in the fifth full
paragraph, in the sixth line. the word "determine" "should be
"determination". On page 19, she requested that the sixth
paragraph be amended to read: "Commissioner Caldwell stated she
personally has reservations regarding the appropriateness of the
additional cut and fill that would be required for the pool."
Commissioner Moran requested that the Saratoga resident referred to
in the last paragraph of page 9 be identified as Richard Tyrell.
Chairperson Burger noted that on page 6 in the third paragraph,
eighth line, the word "budding" should be "abutting" and in the
third line from the bottom of that same paragraph the word
"amendable" should be "amenable". She also requested that the
second paragraph on page 7 be amended to read: "Commissioner
Burger commented that she felt people are parking in the lot now
simply because they see an empty lot."
Commissioner Tappan questioned Commissioner Caldwell's deletion of
the sentence on page 6 reading: "She felt the overall bulk and
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density issues, which were raised in the past, have been
addressed". He felt that was a substantive change to the minutes
and requested a transcript to see exactly what was said. He
presumed'that Commissioner Caldwell was indicating she did not say
this. Commissioner Caldwell said she did not and requested that
the tape be checked to see what was actually said.
Approval of the minutes was postponed pending clarification of the
Minutes Clerk of the paragraph in question.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA:
Pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this meeting
was properly posted on December 7, 1990.
Technical COrrections to. Packet Material:
Planner Walgren indicated that Condition No. 6 of Item 2 on the
.consent calendar (SUP-90.002, Coward) should read: "No structure
or paved areas shall be within 10 ft. of any oak and within any oak
tree trunk."
pUBLIC HEARINGS ~ONSENT CALENDAR:
1. DR-90-054 Sanfilippo, 21834 Via Regina, request for design
review approval to construct 716 sq. ft. of
additional first floor area and an 811 sq. ft.
second story addition to an existing 2,750 sq. ft.
one-story, single family residence in the NHR zone
district per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
2. SUP-90-002 Coward, 15095 Quito Rd., request for a second unit
use permit to construct an 800 sq. ft. second unit
on a 64,270 sq. ft. parcel located in the R-1-
40,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of the City
Code.
3. DR-90-064 Hughes, 12322 Brookglen Dr., request for design
review approval to construct a 1,035 sq. ft.
second story addition to an existing 2,315 sq. ft.
one-story home on a 17,207 sq. ft. parcel within
the R-l-10,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of the
City Code.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR Continued
4. DR-90-069 Benzing, 21107 Michaels Dr., request for design
review approval to construct a new 5,112 sq. ft.
two-story residence on a 41,153 sq. ft. parcel
within the R-I-40,000 zone district per Chapter 15
of the City Code.
A member of the audience requested the removal of item 3.
MORAN/CALDWELL MOVED APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1, 2AND 4.
Passed 4-0.
3. DR-90-064 Hughes, 12322 Brookglen Dro, request for design
review approval to construct a 1,035 sq. ft.
second story addition to an existing 2,315 sq. ft.
one-story home on a 17,207 sq. ft. parcel within
the R-l-10,000 zone district per Chapter 15of the
City Code.
Planner Walgren presented the Report to the Planning Commission
dated December 12, 1990.
In response to a question from Commissioner Caldwell, Mr. Walgren
defined the term "viewshed", as used in the resolution, as views
from other residences to a distant view.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:44 p.m.
The neighbor at 18980 Greenbrook Ct.~ expressed concern regarding
the privacy of his back yard. He was unclear as to how the project
would impact his property.
Mr. Tom Hughes, 12322 Brookglen Dr., stated that he did not believe
his two story would look onto the neighbor's house at all andthere
are mature trees.separating the yards.
MORAN/CALDWELL MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:50 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
In response to a question from Commissioner Moran, Mr. Walgren said
that when he made the preliminary site visit he noted there are no
windows oriented on the sides of the home but they are oriented
towards the front of the property and towards the back. Since the
front of the property is the street there are no concerns there.
There is dense, mature vegetation at the rear of the property on
both the applicant's property, the neighbor's property and the
Water District property. There is some distance from the home to
the rear property line.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSENT CALENDAR Continued
Commissioner Tappan questioned whether voting could be suspended on
this item until the applicant and the neighbor had a chance to
discuss the matter.
Chairperson Burger held the item over until later in the meeting.
Later in the meeting, Mr. Hughes indicated he discussed the matter
with his neighbor and the neighbor requested that the opportunity
to view the site during the daylight hours.
MORAN/CALDWELL MOVED TO CONTINUE DR-90-064 TO JANUARY 9, 1991.
Passed 4-0.
pUBLIC HEARINGS:
5. SD-90-006 Kosich,. Radoyka Dr. & 12325 Saratoga Ave.,
resolution approving tentative map to allow the.
subdivision of a 2.85 acre parcel into four (4)
separate parcels in the R-l-10,000 zone district
per Chapter 15 of the City Code. A Negative
Declaration has been prepared for this proposal
per the CEQA guidelines (continued from 11/28/90).
Planning Director Emslie' reviewed the revised resolution
incorporating all of the conditions that had been added to the two
previous hearings as well as incorporating recommended changes from
the City Engineer.
Mr. Emslie noted the receipt of correspondence from an adjoining
property owner emphasizing the need for undergrounding of the
utility poles that the property owner spoke of at the previous.
Planning Commission hearing. The letter includes a map preparedby
PG&E along with a cost estimate supplied by PG&E to the neighbor.
Mr. Emslie reiterated staff's previous recommendation that it would
not be practicable to impose a condition on the developer for
undergrounding the utilities at this time.
Chairperson Burger noted receipt of a letter from Ms. Betty Morse,
18701 Kosich Drive.
In response to Commissioners' questions, City Engineer Perlin
stated that the proper method of dealing with the hazardous
condition of the power poles would be to have PG&E correct the
maintenance. problem. He did not believe it was proper to impose a
condition to underground the utility system as a condition of this
development. He said undergrounding of a utility system in a
neighborhood requires.an extensive amount of planning, work and
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cooperation of a vast majority of the property owners. It is,
therefore, impractical, in his view, to try and get one property
owner to orchestrate a utility undergrounding that encompasses an
entire neighborhood.
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:55 p.m.
Mr. Mark Roberts, R & Z Development Company, appeared for the
applicant. He said the applicant has reviewed the resolution and
is in agreement with a number of the items. He expressed concern
regarding the portion of Condition No. 3 of the resolution
regarding payment of park and school fees prior to Final Map
approval. He said the school fee is based on the square footage of
the house and until such time as the building plans are available
the applicant is not sure what those fees would be. He also
expressed concern regarding Condition No. 21. He stated the
applicant' is concerned with the safety of the power lines along one
side of the property and would be more than happy to contact PG&E
regarding the safety of the poles and lines and to work with the
neighbors regarding their concerns. Mr. Roberts stated the
applicant is in agreement with the City and did not believe it was
the responsibility of this particular development to fund a
substantial improvement as far as the utility lines are concerned.
He also requested that the Commission reconsider the restriction of
the two-story .homes mainly because of the fact that the area does
have a number of two-story homes. He said the applicant would like
the option of having at least one two-story home in the
development.
Ms. Betty Morse, 18701 Kosich Dr., said it would be acceptable to
have PG&E maintain the safety of the poles and to have the poles
undergrounded at some time in the future. Regarding the
applicant's request for a two-story home in the neighborhood,
Ms. Morse indicated that the neighbors were polled and a majority
did not want two-story buildings.
TAPPAN/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:06 P.M. Passed
In response to a question from Commissioner Tappan, Mr. Emslie
explained the condition regarding school fees. Mr. Emslie said if
the condition is left out it does not exonerate the applicant from
paying the fee nor if it is left in it does not compel him to pay
the fee. It is a standard condition that the City has been using
over the last several years.
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Commissioner Tappan said he was not sure whether he agreed with
Condition No. 20. He stated that hearings would be held during the
design review process and felt that was sufficient protection for
the community to come forward regarding a two-story home.
Commissioner Moran disagreed with Commissioner Tappan in that she
believed it was a good planning decision to leave the condition in
the resolution.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that the neighbor's point was well
regarding the sense of the neighborhood about one-story homes.
Commissioner Tappan indicated that there was nothing to prevent the
President of the Homeowner's Association to come before the
Commission during the design review process. ~
Chairperson Burger agreed with the retention of item 20 and felt it
serves to alert the developer that the Commission is looking for
single-story homes and to accomplish that by limiting the height.
She said it would not prevent the developer asking for approval of
a different height at the time of design review.
Mr. Dewey Kosich addressed the Commission regarding the issue of
two-story homes. He said he has built many two-story homes in
Saratoga and did not understand the necessity for the condition.
Commissioner Tappan commented that the Commission has the privilege
to review all design review issues and the Commission has the
prerogative, when the applicant comes before it for approval, to
encourage public input and decide whether this is an appropriate
area for all single story or whether two story would be allowed.
CALDWELL/MORAN MOVED APPROVAL OF SD-90-006 WITH AN AMENDMENT TO
CONDITION NO. 3 TO READ "PAY ALL PARK AND SCHOOL FEES AS REQUIRED"
AND DIRECTING THE CITY ENGINEER TO REQUEST PG&E TO ADDRESS THE
MAINTENANCE ISSUE THATMAY EXIST WITH RESPECT TO THE UTILITY POLES..
Passed 3-1 (Tappan opposed).
Chairperson Burger moved the agenda back to Item 3 (see above).
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6. SD-90-003 Peninsula Townhomes Assoco, request for tentative
UP-90-003 map approval to subdivide a 2.67 acre lot into one
DR-90-034 two-acre multi-family parcel and two .3 acre
V-90-039 parcels for commercial use. Use permit approval
is requested to allow a 26-unit multi-family
residential development within a Commercial
Visitor (C-V) zone district. Design review
approval is requested for the entire project.
Variance approval is also requested to allow the
two commercial structures to encroach into rear
yard setbacks per Chapter 15 of the City Code. A
Negative Declaration has been prepared and is
incorporated in this application (cont. from
11/14/90).
Planner Walgren reviewed the Memorandum dated December 12, 1990 and
answered Commissioners' questions.
The Public Hearing was opened at 8:25 p.m.
Mr. Bill Lightner addressed the Commission. In response to his
question, Mr. Emslie responded that the project is subject to
Planning Commission approval this evening. The only action the
Commission has taken thus far is to direct staff to prepare
resolutions. Commission action on the resolutions tonight will
constitute approval or denial of the project.
Mr. Lightner noted on page 4 of the staff report under the heading
"Development Standards" that he believed the statement reading
"[t]he proposed residential development does not meet height or
setback requirements" is incorrect. Mr. Walgren responded that
statement was referring to the multi-family development and
according to the multi-family development regulations when there
are multi-family projects in a commercial district the multi-family
regulations must be followed and cannot be modified without
applying for a variance. He said the statement was worded'
correctly.
Mr. Lightner referred to page 1 of the design review resolution and
discussed the third "Whereas" clause. The third line reads "that
the adjacent residences are located along the north and west
property lines". Mr. Lightner pointed out that the public storage
facility is to the west of the property and there are no adjacent
residences to the west.
Mr. Lightner stated he was unclear about Condition No. 13 and
stated he was agreeable to Conditions 18, 19 and 24. Regarding
Condition No. 25, he said he had not discussed. the issue of the
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traffic signal and did not know whether this condition was fair or
unfair. He felt the applicant should pay a fair burden but did not
.know whether half was a fair burden or not. He felt Condition No.
28 should be clearer as he did not know what the scope of time
involved with that condition is, what the amount is or whether it
is a reasonable amount. Responding to Commissioner Moran's
statement regarding Condition 29b, Mr. Lightner felt it might be
rational to provide that one-half of either of the commercial
buildings be restricted in its use rather than one building or the
other. In response to his question regarding Section 3 of the
resolution, Chairperson Burger stated that the City Code provides
for an extension and that section would not preclude the
applicant's ability to ask for an extension.
Using a slide projector, the landscape architect reviewed the
landscape plan in detail and answered questions regarding the
landscaping plan.
Mro Lightner addressed the parking and density issues. With regard
to the parking, he felt that an abundance of parking has been
supplied for the residences, and there are adequate means to
control the uses of the parking for the commercial area. He stated
that if the Commission is concerned about density as directed at
the neighbors, he believed that the neighbors' support in the past
should persuade the Commission that the concern is unfounded. If
the concern is about the public, he said he 'believed that the
perspective shown and the staff report would hopefully convince the
Commission that the density will be well shielded from the street
by a combination of fine architectural elements and landscaping.
He said that if the concern.was about the residents that might
purchase the units, he felt that the landscape perspectives have
shown that the project will be quite lovely and the buyers who
choose to live there will be the best judges of whether it is a
fine pro.ject or not. The density proposed is no more and perhaps
less than the density of the northern most property.
Mr. Lightner pointed out that density is a necessity of
affordability. He said the Lightner Property Group is attempting
to provide an alternative to the more affordable but less desirable
stacked, flat apartments that are sold as condominiums to many
young people'. His group is trying to deliver homes in the
community that would sell for less than $400,000. He said his
group came to the Commission within the guidelines of the Housing
Element of the General Plan and proposed 14 units per acre. Over
the past seven months that plan has been changed so that the
proposal now before the Commission provides 26 units. Originally
the land cost per unit would have been less than $100,000. By
· reducing the number of units by 20%, $14,500 has been added per
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unit in land cost alone. He noted that some Commissioners would
like to see 20 units and if that were the case another $33,000
would be added beyond the $14,500 to each unit on the land. He
said if there were 16 units on the land, as discussed by some
Council members, that would add another $68,000 to the price of the
land, and the land price per unit would be around $180,000. Every
cut made to the reasonable density proposed will exclude some
family from living in Saratoga and adding to the vitality of the
community and will be requiring units that will not be supported by
the market as evidenced by the Saratoga Villa.
In response to a question from Commissioner Caldwell, Mr. Lightner
responded that the cottages would sell in the mid-S200,000 to
possibly the low $300,000 for the largest unit and the larger
townhomes would sell in the mid and higher $300,000 price range.
TAPPAN/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:00 P.M. Passed
4-0.
Commissioner Tappan stated he was in favor of the project and felt
it was time to approve. it. He noted that it has been nearly a year
since .the project first came before the Commission and there have
been countless hearings and study sessions regarding the project.
Commissioner Moran said that density has been a concern of hers,
and she did not feel the project has come far enough along to
provide the kind of liveability that she would like to see in the
project. She expressed concern about the appearance and overall
visibility of the project. She stated that her concerns about
parking remain, and she did not want to see parking problems
created in the commercial area.
Commissioner Caldwell felt that the landscape plans were excellent,
and she was in favor of the pavement treatment. She said she would
still like to see the density come down to closer to nine units per
acre. She stated she was now less concerned about the parking than
she was before if the proposed restrictions will stick. She
indicated she reviewed the variance and felt the variance drafted
by staff seems to make sense.
Chairperson Burger agreed with Commissioner Tappan's comments.
Regarding the issue of density, she pointed out that the.Commission
should remember where the location of the site is and what the
surrounding uses are. In an attempt to provide affordable housing
in Saratoga, this is an excellent final product which meets all of
her concerns. She felt it was a good project and to reduce the
density of the project any further would result in "back door
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elitism" because reducing the density any further would literally
price people out of an affordable housing market in Saratoga.
Chairperson Burger suggested that the Commission comment on the
concerns raised about the conditions.
Commissioner Tappan noted that the developer has a fixed priced for
his land and gave the' ratios. He pointed out that every square
foot trimmed from the project represents a dollar number that is
added to land cost. He stated that if the project is cut down to
nine units per acre there will be no development there.
TAPPAN/CALDWELL MOVED APPROVAL OF DR-90-034.
Chairperson Burger called for a discussion on the conditions which
were previously questioned.
Regarding Condition No. 13, Mr. Emslie stated it was his
understanding that the applicant was concerned as to whether or not
the condition as worded requires change or modification to the
design of the project. He said the City Engineer reviewed the
improvements proposed by the applicant and the subdivision as
currently designed would be compatible with dedications, sidewalks,
etc.
Mr. Perlin noted that the 42 ft. wide half street is a standard
condition placed along that section of Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road. He
believed that with this particular property there is an incremental
widening that needs to be done there to make the alignment of the
curb consistent to the north and to the south but that would fall
into place anyway when the curb and gutter in front of the property
would be replaced, which is another condition on the resolution.
Mr. Perlin stated that the reason Condition No. 25 was changed was
a misunderstanding on his part. Initially it was his understanding
that what was done in the past is the entire cost of traffic signal
improvements along Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road was assigned to the
development. He has since learned that what was done in the past
was the cost was shared with the developer. The City is now saying
it expects this developer to contribute 50% of the cost of the
signal, and the City would contribute the remaining 50%. As a
caveat to that, there could be some sort of a reimbursement
agreement so that future commercial development could reimburse
this developer for the portion that the developer would be paying.
Chairperson Burger recalled that the Commission previously felt
that the cost of the traffic light ought to be a shared cost.
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Mr. Perlin indicated that the assessment district being proposed
for Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road north of the railroad tracks would only
cover the curb, gutter, sidewalk and landscape improvements along
the frontage of all of the properties. Because this particular
developer would be installing those improvements, he would no
longer be required to participate in that assessment district~ The
assessment district is not proposed to cover the cost of the median
improvements or the traffic signal.
City Attorney Toppel stated some care should be exercised in
identifying the specific properties on which the burden for
reimbursement would be placed. Theoretically, for any property
that develops up and down the street an argument could be made that
they are using the traffic signal therefore they have an obligation·
to reimburse some percentage of the cost.
Mro Perlin suggested including all the commercial zoned properties
north of the railroad tracks.
In response to a question from Commissioner Caldwell regarding the
issue of refundability if the traffic signal ends up costing less,
Mr. Perlin responded that if the traffic signal ends up costing
less, the difference would be refunded to the developer. The
$65,000 is the upper limit of the developer's contribution.
Commissioner Moran suggested that the refund policy should be
reflected in Condition No. 25.
Mr. Toppel noted that the typical time frame is about ten years.
Regarding Condition No. 28, Mr. Emslie responded that is a standard
condition for a project that exceeds the deposit a developer puts
up for geologic fees and is an indication that the developer must
settle his account with the City so that there is no outstanding
balance. He believed Mr. Lightner was concerned that this might be
some sort of blank check that might be extended into the future and
that is unfounded because the City does not proceed with any
geotechnical work unless authorized by the property owner.
Chairperson Burger noted, regarding Condition 29b, that the
applicant· requested it read one building or one-half of each
building.
Commissioner Moran said that made sense to her and requested
staff's comments.
Mr. Toppel suggested that it read "50% of the total square
footage"o
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Commissioner Moran questioned if that was something Parcel A owner
and Parcel B owner were to work out between the two of them or if
that would be set up in advance.
Mr. Toppel stated that raises an interesting questions in terms of
what the intention of the developer is with respect to ownership.
He was under the assumption that both buildings are under common
ownership. If they are not, the condition would be almost
impossible to administer.
Chairperson Burger noted that they could conceivably be owned by
the same individual but they are two separate lots.
Mr. Toppel suggested asking the applicant what he has in mind
regarding these lots. He said this has been done before and there
has been a problem.
Mr. Emslie said that staff agrees with the City Attorney's analysis
and that is why the condition is limited to buildings only.
In response to Chairperson Burger's question, Mr. Lightner said he
had hoped for the flexibility of dealing with two separate owners
for the parcels.
Commissioner Tappan indicated that he heard no one say the design
is. faulty or unsightly.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that it would be the best course of
action to leave Condition No. 29b as it is because at some point a
decision will be made as to which parcel will be restricted.
Commissioner Tappan said that a restriction could be put on both to
restrict half of each parcel.. He said if the condition is left as
it is and the parcelsare owned by two separate owners it would put
a burden on one of the owners.
Mr. Toppel said that if a 50-50 condition is imposed, there would
be a severe impact.on how the properties are marketed. He said
there is a significant difference between the two in terms of the
types of retail uses. The .extensive use is a fairly narrow
category. The applicant would be the best judge of how that would
work. The Commission's objectives are clear, and Mr. Toppel
suggested that maybe a post-approval process could be set up but he
could envision administrative problems. He said more problems
might be created with a mandated mixture.
Commissioner Tappan stated that from an economic viewpoint he could
see one of the structures vacant and one occupied the way the
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condition is now written. He said that maybe allowing the
applicant to request a variance on setbacks to add additional
parking would solve the problem.
Mr'. Toppel said there is a variance requested and as a condition
the Commission could say that an agreement shall be recorded .that
requires an administrative use permit for every occupant of the
property coupled with the overall requirement about less than 50%
of the total retail space of the two parcels combined shall be the
extensive use. Each owner would go in knowing the situation. He
suggested it could be approved administratively at the staff level.
Mr. Emslie stated that what the City Attorney suggested is a review
process that requires future tenants to submit their plans to City
Hall. He said that is not now required because this is a
commercial district and these uses are permitted by right.
Commissioner Caldwell reiterated her belief that the way the
condition is now written makes more sense in terms of being
achievable.
Mr. Emslie suggested the possibility of having both buildings on
the same lot and not approving the lot split.
Commissioner Moran noted her understanding that one of the design
features of the project is the front street aspect of it and if
there are separate owners several years from now it will not look
the same. She felt the Commission should be aware that the
similarity of the two parcels may be put in jeopardy.
Commissioner Tappan agreed that the solution may be not to divide
the parcels. He stated that the Commission may be making it more
difficult for the applicant in the future in the viability of these
projects in leasing them and finding tenants. He said he thought
he was doing the project a favor in providing the option to divide
the parcel.
Mr. Toppel stated that there would not be a problem if the same
owner owned both parcels.
Chairperson Burger tabled the motion on the floor and requested a
motion on the SD.
TAPPAN/BURGER MOVED TO APPROVE SD-90-003 WITH A CONDITION THAT ONLY
ONE COMMERCIAL PARCEL WILL BE CREATED IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
Passed 3-1 (Commissioner Moran was opposed).
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Commissioner Moran stated she would be voting against all of the
items in this package. She said she was not comfortable with the
density and the commercial parking restrictions.
Chairperson Burger requested a vote on the previously tabled motion
for DR-90-034.
Commissioner Moran noted that third "Whereas" clause was to be
amended to indicate there is not an adjacent residence on the west.
Commissionjr Tappan clarified that Condition No. 29b now refers to
only one parcel and that 50% of the square footage will be
restricted.
The vote on DR-90-034 was split 2:2 (Commissioners Caldwell and
Moran opposed).
TAPPAN/BURGER MOVED APPROVAL OF UP-90-003.
Commissioner Moran said she was.in favor of the use for multi-
family residences but is not voting in favor of this project;
Commissioner Caldwell agreed.
There was a vote of 2:2 on the motion (Commissioners Caldwell and
Moran opposed).
TAPPAN/BURGER MOVED APPROVAL OF V-90-039. There was a vote of 2:2
on the motion (Commissioners Caldwell and Moran opposed).
Mr. Toppel noted that under the provisions of the City Code when
there is a split vote and a Commissioner is absent the applicant
can choose to have the item come back automatically to the next
meeting for another vote. If there is another split vote, that is
deemed to be a denial and can be taken up on appeal to the City
Council. Alternatively, the applicant may choose to treat the
split vote tonight as constituting a denial and proceed immediately
on appeal to the City Council. He said the decision did not have
to be made tonight.
Break 9:45 p.m. - 9:55 p.m.
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7. SD-90-004 Pache, 14555 Big Basin Way, request for tentative
UP-90-006. map approval for a two parcel subdivision; for a
DR-90-039 use permit to allow residential development in a
V-90-031 commercial zoning district; for design review to
construct five (5) new attached single family
dwellings and underground parking and for variance
to exceed the allowable height limit in the C-H
zone district per Chapter 14 and Chapter 15 of the
City Code. A Negative Declaration has been
prepared per the CEQA guidelines.
Planner Walgren presented the Report to the Planning Commission
dated November 28, 1990.
The Public Hearing was opened at 10:00 p.m.
Mr. Lou Dorsich, 1999 South Bascom Ave., architect for the
applicant, addressed the Commission and reviewed the project in
detail.
Mr. Pache, the applicant addressed the Commission regarding the
proposal. He pointed out that there is no addition .to the
restaurant proposed. He said he has had numerous calls from
Saratoga residents who are looking forward to the opportunity to
move to the Village.
Mr. John DiManto addressed the' Commission in support of the
project.
TAPPAN/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:14 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Caldwell said she would be interested in looking at a
four-unit alternative. She agreed with staff regardinglowering of
the parking structure and said she would like to look at an
alternative for the structure. She agreed with the Staff Report
regarding the compatibility of the design with the Village
guidelines. She said she had no problem with the variance request.
Commissioner Moran questioned residential development on the site
and also questioned the realistic long-term planning goals for the
Village regarding the mix of commercial and residential uses. She
was in favor of continuing the item in order to discuss the project
further. She agreed with many of the comments in the Staff Report.
Commissioner Tappan said he would not rule out the possibility of
a five-unit project. He was in favor of a study session.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Chairperson Burger stated she was.having a problem visualizing the
project from the architectural renderings in the packets. She also
said she was not ruling out five units. She requested that the
applicant prepare a model that would allow the Commission to see
what the buildings would look like.on the site. She also felt that
the .addition to the restaurant the should match the current
restaurant.
THE ITEM WAS CONTINUED TO A STUDY SESSION ON JANUARY 15, 1991.
The following two items were considered together:
8. DR-90-052 Saratoga Estates, 19171 Oahu Lane, request for
approval to construct a 3,624 sq. ft. one-story
single family residence on a 16,738 sq. ft. parcel
in the R-l-15,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of
the City Code.
9'. DR-90-053 Saratoga Estates, 19151 Oahu Lane, request for
SD-89-018.1 construct a 3,429 sq. ft. one-story single family
residence on a 26,365 sq. ft. parcel in the R-1-
15,000 zone district per Chapter 15 of the City
Code. The request also involves amending the
subdivision conditions to allow for a decrease in
setback requirements°
Planner Walgren presented the Report to the Planning Commission
dated November 28, 1990. Mr. Walgren noted that a cover memo to
the original staff report was distributed which provides background
as to how the drainage conditions were resolved.
The.Public Hearing was opened at 10:25 p.m.
The applicant addressed the Commission, reviewed the proposal in
detail and answered questions regarding the proposal.
Mr. William Ellis, 19160 Oahu Ln., addressed the Commission. He
said he was pleased that the property was to be developed, He did
not believe it was necessary for the new houses to look exactly
like the other houses in the area but would feel more comfortable.
if they were reasonably compatible.
Mr. Vincent, 13617 Westover Dr., addressed the Commission. He said
he had no problem with Lot A. Regarding Lot B, he was in support
of the staff recommendation that the side setbacks on the lot be
enlarged and retained rather than encroached upon as proposed. He
thought that could be accomplished by either reducing the size of
the house or changing its location on the existing lot.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
TAPPAN/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:40 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Tappan said he knows the area well and was sensitive
to the first neighbor that spoke concerning the design of Parcel A.
Commissioner Moran agreed with the staff report and with Mr. Ellis'
comments and said she was sensitive to the problems that can be
created with flag lots and would like to stick with the original
plan for the setback.
Commissioner Caldwell agreed with Commissioner Moran.
Chairperson Burger said she also agreed that the setbacks should be
retained.
In response to a question from Chairperson Burger, Mr. Emslie
recommended that the Commission provide direction regarding the
exterior changes to both parcels understanding the seclusion of
Parcel B and that the item be continued to a public hearing at
which time revised plans could be submitted, after staff's review
and analysis, to the Commission.
THE ITEM WAS CONTINUED TO JANUARY 9, 1991.
10. DR-90-057 Gault, 22068 Villa Oaks Lno, request for design
review approval to construct a 5,963 sq. ft. two-
story single family residence on a 1.4 acre site
in the NHR zone district per Chapter 15 of the
City Code (cont. from 11/14/90).
Chairperson Burger reported on the land use visit.
Planner Walgren presented the Report to the Planning Commission
dated December 12, 1990.
The Public Hearing was opened at 10:45 p.m.
Ms. Virginia Fanelli represented the applicant. Using an overhead
projector, Ms. Fanelli reviewed the project in detail.
The designer of the house reviewed the design in detail. He felt
sure he could keep the integrity of the house and do some minor
redesign modifications to eliminate the strong vertical elements.
He explained is proposal for the redesign of the house.
Ms. Fanelli noted receipt of letters from Mr. and Mrs. Daly and
Mr. and MrS. Riley in support of the project.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS. Continued
TAPPAN/CALDWELL MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:00 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
In response to a question from Commissioner Caldwell, Ms. Fanelli
indicated the applicant is willing to give an easement across his
property to the Dalys for access to the equestrian trail provided
they have proper insurance.
Commissioner Caldwell said she wouldlike to see some redesign work
along the. lines indicated by the architect and along the lines
indicated bythe staff report. She stated one of the concerns she
had with the Bilkey property and that she has with this property is
the prominence of the site in the whole region and the visibility
of the site across the valley. She was unsure whether the 22 ft.
warped plane concept would address that issue.
In response to a question from Commissioner Moran, Ms. Fanelli
responded that the house was designed as it was presented to the
Commission. The applicant is attempting to satisfy. the 22 ft.
guideline and has shown that with a slight modification to the roof.
the house is only 22 ft. off the natural plane. She said the
Bilkey house is sitting at natural grade and it is 22 ft. above.
The applicant is not asking for any more than that.
Commissioner Moran stated that her concern is the visibility of the
house.
Chairperson Burger felt that some architectural redesign is
appropriate as indicated this evening by the architect. She said
she would like to see the roof height brought down in the
architectural redesign if possible.
Mr. Gault addressed the Commission and indicated his frustration
with the process. He said he felt that the issue of the height of
the home on the lot should have been addressed at the time the
subdivision map was approved.
Commissioner Caldwell noted 'that some of the comments of the
Commissioners are based upon their consultation of the Design.
Review Handbook and the General Plan. The interest is in
preservation of the hillsides and sensitivity of prominent sites.
She said the Commission is attempting to be more sensitive as to
what may be built on subdivision lots and are trying to foresee the
problems that may come up at the design review stage. Many people
believe those issues can be dealt. with at the design review stage,
and the Commission would not be precluded at that stage to ask the
applicant to deal with sensitive sites in a sensitive way.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
MORAN/CALDWELL MOVED TO CONTINUE DR-90-057 TO JANUARY 9, 1991.
Passed 4-0.
11. DR-90-035 Yamauichi, 21439 Continental C,ircle, request for
design review approval to construct a new two.-
story single family residence in the NHR zone
district per Chapter 15 of the City Code.
Commissioner Caldwell reported on the land use visit.
Planner Walgren presented the Report to the Planning Commission
dated December 12, 1990.
The Public Hearing was opened at 11:15 p.m~
The designer of the project addressed the Commission. The owners
indicated they have no problem with modifying windows at the rear
elevation to conform with the rest of the windows at the rear of
the house. The owner did not feel the colors were inappropriate
and from a distance would not make the house stand out but will
change the colors if the Commission insists.
CALDWELL/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:21 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Tappan said he had no problem with the colors.
Commissioner Caldwell stated she was happy that the applicant would
alter the design of the rear window. She agreed with staff that
earth tone colors are appropriate and could not approve the colors
presented.
Commissioner Moran agreed with Commissioner Tappan regarding the
colors.
Chairperson Burger said she would like to see some change in the
colors.
MORAN/CALDWELL MOVED APPROVAL OF DR-90-035 WITH CONDITIONS THAT THE
REAR WINDOWS BE CHANGED, THAT THE LANDSCAPING RECOMMENDED BY STAFF
BE INCLUDED AND THAT THE COLOR BE CHANGED TO A MORE NATURAL EARTH
TONE COLOR TO BE APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL. Passed 4-0.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
12. DR-90-033 Leposavic, 15134 Sperry Ln., request for design
V-90-019 review approval to construct a new 7,309 sq. ft.
single family dwelling on a 1.35 acre parcel and a
request for variance to exceed the allowable floor
area in the R-I-40,000 zone district per Chapter
15 of the City Code.
Commissioner Caldwell reported on the land use visit.
Planner Walgren presented the Report to the Planning Commission
dated October 24, 1990.
The Public Hearing was opened at 11:25 p.m.
Mr. Wayne Leposavic, 15070 Sperry Lane, addressed the Commission
and made reference to his letter which was included in the
Commissioners' packets.
Mr. Lon Curtis, 15127 Sperry Ln., addressed the Commission. He
requested that the Commission deny the proposed project. He
expressed concern that there may be two residences on the lot and
at some point the pool house could be turned into a rental or some
other type of residence.
Mr. Adams, representing the Estate of Katherine Dutton, made
reference to a letter he sent to the Commission and said he was
still objecting to the project on the same bases as outlined in the
letter. He distributed a letter dated October 23, 1990 from
Dr. and Mrs. Falls objecting to the proposal.
Mr. Adams made reference to the applicant's letter in which
Mr. Leposavic indicated there was an agreement between the
applicant and the late Mrs. Dutton. Mr. Adams stated he knew of no
such agreement. He requested the Commission deny the application.
Mr. Walt Hoeffler, 15122 Sperry Ln., supported the staff
recommendation for denial of the application.
Mr. Leposavic addressed the Commission in response to the
neighbors' comments.
CALDWELL/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:36 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Tappan said he objected to the proposal because he
felt it was a poor design, and he could not approve a variance
allowing an additional 1,000 square feet.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
Commissioners Caldwell, Moran and Burger all indicated they agreed
with the staff report.
CALDWELL/MORAN MOVED FOR ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION FOR DENIAL OF
DR-90-033. Passed 4-0.
CALDWELL/TAPPANMOVED FOR ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION FOR DENIAL OF
V-90-019. Passed 4-0.
13. SD-90-005 Shuffle, 20811 Norada Ct.,.request 'for tentative
map approval to allow the subdivision of a 45,870
sq. ft. lot into two (2) separate parcels in the
R-1-12,500 zone district per Chapter 15 of the
City Code. A Negative Declaration has been
prepared for this proposal per the CEQA
guidelines.
Chairperson Burger reported on the land use visit.
Planning Director Emslie presented the Report .to the Planning
Commission dated December 12, 1990.
Mr. Emslie made reference to a letter received from Mr. and Mrs.
John E. Cameron, 12192 Beauchamps Lane, objecting to the
subdivision.
The Public Hearing was opened at 11:47 p.m.
The engineer for the applicant addressed the Commission. She
pointed out that both of the lots being created by the subdivision
are greater than the surrounding neighborhood and will both be in
excess of 20,000 sq. ft. She did not believe that the creation of
a flag lot would jeopardize anyone's privacy.
Mr. Shuffle said he did not understand the easement concerns and
requested clarification regarding the easement concerns. He said
he would probably be agreeable to whatever conditions would be
necessary to alleviate the neighbors' concerns.
Mr. John Cameron, 12192 Beauchamps, addressed the Commission and
made reference to his letter.
Mr. Emslie made reference to a letter received from the neighbors
at 12122 Beauchamps Ln., objecting to the proposed lot split.
In response to a question from Commissioner Moran regarding his
concern about the slope of the land, Mr. Cameron said his property
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PUBLIC HEARINGS Continued
is about six feet above the proposed lot and his house would look
directly down onto any building there.
CALDWELL/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:58 P.M.
Passed 4-0.
Commissioner Caldwell requested that staff clarify whether there is
a moratorium on the creation of flag lots. Mr. Emslie responded
that there is not.
Chairperson Burger requested that staff address Mr. Shuffle's
concerns regarding the easements. Mr. Emslie stated that division
of property is not a .right but a privilege and that in order to
grant the privilege of subdividing property the Planning Commission
must determine whether the lot is suitable for development. It is
staff's feeling that the presence of easements that are used in a
way that environmentally affects the property lead staff to
conclude that this site is not buildable because of the
environmental effects that result from the use of those easements.
Mr. Toppel stated there are situations where there is property left
over from a subdivision that by design and appearance was really
contemplated for future subdivision. In this instance the
remainder parcels were not intended as future development from the
start.
Commissioner Moran did not believe the Commission would be creating
a suitable building area for future development and problems would
be created for people who purchased the land and who try to build
on it.
MORAN/CALDWELL MOVED ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION DENYING SD-90-005
WITHOUT PREJUDICE. PASSED 4-0.
DIRE.CTOR'S ITEMS
1. Committee-of-the Whole Report 12/4/90
COMMISSION ITEMS
COMMUNICATIONS
Written
oral
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COMMUNICATIONS Continued
City CoUncil
Chairperson Burger reported on the City Council meeting. She noted
that resolutions were presented to former Commissioners Kolstad and
siegfried. She suggested that the Commission consider resolutions
from the Planning Commission commending them for their
contributions.
There was Commission consensus to direct staff to prepare
resolutions of commendation for Mr. Kolstad and Mr. Siegfried.
Commissioner Tappan indicated he was also in attendance at the
Council meeting. Regarding the Birenbaum application, he noted
that Mayor Stutzman took exception to the geological report.· He
felt the Council should be made aware that such reports are
prepared by professionals whose credentials have been screened and
those professionals are chosen from a list provided to the
· applicant by staff°
Mr. Toppel reported that his services as City Attorney will end of
December 31. He said it has been a pleasure and privilege working
with the Commission.
Chairperson Burger stated that Mr. Toppel will be sorely missed.
Commissioner Moran presented a resolution she prepared thanking
Mr. Toppel for his knowledge, cooperation and for saving the
Commission with his creative solutions and for his patience,
attentiveness and for his good humor. She said it was a delight
and a pleasure to work with him.
ADJOURMMRNT
The Planning Commission meeting was adjourned at 12:30 a.m.
Rebecca Cuffman
CIWY OF SAI~WOGA PLANNING CONNISSION
NINUTES
DATE: December 12, 1990 - 7:30 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue,
Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Roll Call: Chairperson Burger, Commissioners Caldwell, Moran, and
Tappano Commissioner Tucker was absent.
Pledge of Allegiance
Approval of Minutes of NOvember 14, 1990:
Commissioner Caldwell requested that on page 6 paragraph 3 the
second sentence reading "She' felt the overall bulk and density
issues, which were raised in the past, have been addressed" be
deleted and requested that the following be addedto the end of the
first sentence: "...because it demonstrates some decrease in
overall bulk and density and some increase in usable open space
than the earlier proposals. However, serious problems remain."
In that same paragraph in the seventh line from the bottom of the
paragraph before the sentence beginning "She also suggested..." she
requested insertion of a sentence reading "Staff's July report
states that most of the recent townhome developments approved in
Saratoga are about nine units per acre., In Commissioner Caldwell's
opinion, this standard is the type of density that is appropriate
for the site."
Commissioner Caldwell noted that on page 10 in the fifth full
paragraph, in the sixth line the word "determine" should be
"determination". On page 19,. she requested that the sixth
paragraph be amended to read: "Commissioner Caldwell stated she
personally has reservations regarding the appropriateness of the
additional cut and fill that Would be required for the pool."
Commissioner Moran requested that the Saratoga resident referred
to in the last paragraph of page 9 be identified as Richard Tyrello
Chairperson Burger noted that on page 6 in the third paragraph,
eighth line, the word "budding" should be "abutting" and in the
third line from the bottom of that same paragraph the word
."amendable" should be "amenable~'''. She also requested that the
second paragraph on page 7 be amended to read: "Commissioner
Burger commented that she felt people are parking in the lot now
simply because they see an empty lot."
Commissioner Tappan questioned Commissioner Caldwell's deletion of
the sentence on page 6 reading: "She felt the overall bulk and
-%
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density issues, which were raised in the past, have been
addressed". He felt that was a substantive change to the minutes
and requested a transcript to see exactly what was said. He
presumed that Commissioner Caldwell was indicating she did not say
this. Commissioner Caldwell said she did not and requested that
the tape be checked to see what was actually said.
Approval of the minutes was postponed pending clarification of the
Minutes Clerk of the paragraph in question.