HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-30-1969 City Council Minutes JOINT MEETING OF SARATOGA CITY
COUNCIL, PLAlqNING COMMISSION, A~) PARKS COMMISSION
Wednesday, July 30, 1969
TIME: WEDNESDAY, JULY 30, 1969 I. 7:30 P.M.
PLACE: SARATOGA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 13777 FRUITVALE AVENUE, SARATOGA, CALIFORNIA
TYPE: JOINT STUDY SESSION TO DISCUSS PARKS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
I. ORGANIZATION
Councilmen ~resent: Tyler, Robbins, Dwyer, Smith and Sanders
Planning Commissioners present: Norton, BaconCrisp and Smith
Park Commissioners present: Bridges, Adams, Aberle and Duffy
II. PURPOSE AND DISCUSSION
Mayor Tyler opened the meeting, noting that it was very informal, and that its
sole purpose was the introduction of park proposals and presentation of plans
prepared by consultant Eldon Beck.
Mr. Beck stated the proposals contained in the draft copy distributed to officials
present represented the findings based uponcareful research by his associates and
himself. He recapitulated briefly the history of the study, and stated that it
was basically an extension of General Plan recommendations for park sites and trails
in Saratoga.
All available sites had been inspected and categorized.
Aesthetic considerations and conservation of the environment were primarily ~used in
guiding the study. As population pressures increase, and people have more leisure
time, the need for additional facilities will increase, although he doubted that
the number of perle in Saratoga would increase at the some rate projected for Santa
Clara Valley in overall numbers.
In answer to a query from Dr. Norton, Mr..Beck stated that historically there was
always a problem connected with use of local parks by nonresidents, as in the case
of Los Gatos' Oak Meadow Park but that park locations indicated were for the most
part, situated in Saratoga residential areas,.and were designed to meet local needs
and use, being away from major traffic streets.
Referring to the Draft Copy, he recapitulated the areas'and priorities recommended,
and indicated that in general these were also acceptable to the Park Commission.
Con~nenting on the gore between Saratoga and Fruitvale, Chairman Norton noted it
would have to be acquired by the City at some future date, and the type of develop-
ment would have to be considered. Mr. Norton added that speaking for himself, he
would be reluctant to favor changes that might conflict'with guidelines set forth
in the Saratoga General Plan of 1968. He also noted that the Planning Commission
had conducted a lengthly series of hearings on the Plan, and that recommendations
for revisions were being sent to the COuncil. There was also a question of balance
between parks, open space and recreation allocation.
Mr. Beck responded that he thought there would be no real conflict, that the City
could possibly invest in p~rchase of seven or eight acres within the "gore", perhaps
not on a first priority basis, but soon.
Mr. Beck displayed a series of slides showing examples of landscape development,
park uses and furnishings~available as .typical or similar parks in other California
communities, including Palo Alto, Los Altos, Vallejo, Milpitas and Marin County.
He also showed typical master plan layouts prepared for Las Positas Park, Santa
Barbara, and Atherton. Such plans, plus three-dimensional models could be pre-
pared as part of a "sales package" for voter study.
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In reference to a trails system as proposed in the General Plan and favored
by the Park Commission, he noted that there might be some difficulty in ob-
taining easements from private owners, especially along creeks, but that paths
could be laid out for the pedestrians and/or cyclists along public streets
and public utility easements.
Chairman Norton addressed the Council on the subject of possible financing,
stating that this would come up as a natural part of any public hearings on
the proposals, and that although money was the business of the Council, he
would appreciate receiving some guidelines in re dollars possible, and also
about political considerations.
Mayor Tyler said that one possibility that might open up relative to financing
would be adoption of a new ordinance relative to dedication of common green
area; that the ordinance was being prepared for Commission study; if it proved
feasible, the City might obtain major help for initial financing of city parks.
Mr. Norton responded that it was an extremely complex matter, and a preliminary
evaluation from the Council would be appreciated.
City A~tministrator Huff noted that Foothill School was requesting that an
emergency road be run through the proposed park site, and Mr. Beck suggested
a conference with school authorities.
In answer to a question by Councilman Sanders, Conm~issioner Bridges said that
the Parks Commission was not making Any specific recommendation at this time for
possible financing, but it was their.hope that priority-listed lands could be held
by the City until a bond issue could be properly prepared and presented to the
voters.
Commissioner Crisp said there was need for wide publicity on such an issue, and
Mrs. Dully replied she had made~efforts to contact various homeowners associations.
Mayor Tyler commented that there would automatically be voter interest on.either
a bond issue or a tax rise.
Mr. Sanders and Mr. Robbins commented briefly on conversation of potential
park sites in the Cox and Prospect Road areas, and that perhaps the Council
should take some action, within meanS.
Mr. Nogle of Prides Crossing Homeowners Association stated a particular interest
In Area 2, and Mr. Beck said he had no comparison figures on population versus
acreage within designated areas. Mr. Robbins said the city zoning map and lot
sizes were a d,~ ~ .for par~s needed.
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In answer to Mr. Nogl~e, Mr. Beck said planning was such that each park would not
duplicate another, and that courts, play areas and other uses were intended to
serve residents of particular neighborhoods.
Mr. Beck answered Mrs. Sitney's question on overall planning by saying that the
report projected only "first phase"thinking-relative to land acquisition, and
some development; the latter could take place over a long period of time, depend-
ing upon needs and financing. The next step, he said, would be review of the
proposals by the C~issions and Council, which could add, or delete, or revise
priority sequences.
As to economic benefit for the conKnunity, Mr. Beck said he had no hard data,
but that the general pattern was a general upgrading and improvement of neigh-
borhoods and shopping centers, when parks were built.
Mr. Bridges stated that the most critical thing was land acquisition, no~t develop-
ment; that first any amendments to the General Plan must be worked out before the
Planning Commission, and 'found acceptable; that perhaps staff could work out fig-
ures of land purchase costs. In answer to Mr. Tyler, he stated he considered
development around the C~vic Center 7as of prime importance. Mr. Huff said there
were possiblities of obtaining land dedication from cluster-type developments to
aid park land purchase. Mr. Bridges said that possible golf course development
if realized, cohld have a strong impact on civic center plans.
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Mr. Huff stated that the Parks Commission recommendations should be forwarded
to the Planning Conmission to conduct public hearings; that their findings on
site locations aJd~priority could then be forwarded to the Council for possible
incorporation into the revised General Plan; and that possibly a bond issue could
be prepared for next Spring.
Dr. Norton said that former projected plans for civic center development had
been worked out qnly after extensive hearings and discussion; that in regard
to possible amendment of the General Plan, he foresaw no complications, but
he wished to avoid overlapping the functions of the Park Commission, especially
regarding park site locations.
Mr. Smith said costs were inseparable from sites, especially during public
hearings. Mayor Tyler said the hearings should be confined to possible loca-
tions, regardless of cost. Mr. Norton commented on possible General Plan
changes, stating that since the Council would also hold public hearings on pro-
posals for change, that possibly some problems would have been cleared up by
then.
The Mayor thanked Mr. Beck for his presentation, and members of the Council,
Commissions and audience for their attendance, and adjourned the meeting at
10:28 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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