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CITY OF SARATOGA PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
June 10, 1992 - 7:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Ave.
Regular Meeting
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Caldwell, Commissioners Tucker, Bogosian,
Moran, Durket (arrived 7:33 p.m.), Favero, Forbes
(arrived 7:33 p.m.)
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
MINUTES
Minutes of May 13, 1992
Chr. Caldwell made the following change:
Page 9, last paragraph add the words "upcoming revision of the tree
ordinance" before "regarding".
MORAN/TUCKER MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 13, 1992, AS
AMENDED ABOVE. PASSED 4-0-1 (Favero abstain, Durket, Forbes
absent)
Minutes May 27, 1992
Com. Moran made the following change:
Page 6, 6th Paragraph, should reflect what was said at the meeting.
Com. Tucker made the following changes:
Page 6, Paragraph 6, the words "for safety reasons" should be added
after "...Tentative Map"
Paragraph 7, the words "for reasons sited by the applicant and
neighbors" should be added after the words "...of the orchard..."
Chr. Caldwell made the following changes:
Page 2, item 2, expiration date should be 7/21/92.
Throughout the document continue to refer to "Revised Map "A" (2
cul-de-sac plan)"
Page 4, Gunther Mackie made mention of a petition and this should
be recorded in the minutes. Last item on the page, item 3. should
read "Tentative Map Conditions".
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Page 5, 1st paragraph, last comment should be "...with the
exception of Conditions 1 and 3. Com. Durket noted that this was
his intent.
Same Page, Com Moran's comments should read "a wider landscape
buffer"
Page 6, Chr. Caldwell's comments, requested reviewing the tape for
comments regarding no gateway of signage; same page "a thicker
buffer..." should read "a wider buffer..."
Chr. Caldwell also noted she would like a summary of comments made
by the Chairperson after this item to be recorded in the minutes.
Page 9 add the words "to retain compatibility of the one story
neighborhood" after the words "...a one-story addition..."
Com. Moran made the following changes:
Page 5, 5th paragraph should read "...reconfiguring..." as opposed
to "...combining...".
Com. Bogosian made the following change:
Page 3, 3rd paragraph should read "Commissioner Forbes..."
MORAN/FORBES MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 27, 1992, A$
AMENDED ABOVE. PASSED 6-0 (Favero abstain).
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA
Pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this meeting
was properly posted on May 8, 1992.
Technical Corrections to Packet
Planning Director Curtis stated the corrections will be made as
each item is addressed.
PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT CALENDAR
1. SUP-91-005 - McCullough, 14985 & 14981 Quito Rd., request
for second-unit use permit approval to allow
two existing second dwelling units, located on
contiguous separate parcels, to be legalized
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pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City Code. The
subject parcels are 1.1 and 1.2 acres in size
(cont. to 6/24/92 to allow staff to re-notice
the item as variance request for an additional
fifth unit; application expires 11/20/92).
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2. LL-92-002 - Tappan, 19391 & 19371 Valle Vista Drive,
request for lot line adjustment approval to
exchange an equal amount of area (128 s.f.)
between the two 1-acre subject parcels
pursuant to Chapter 14 of the City Code.
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3. DR-92-016 - Gannaway, 13990 Pike Rd., request to allow a
rear deck to exceed the maximum allowed 5 ft.
underfloor area by approximately 2 ft. 7
inches pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City
Code. The parcel is 1.9 acres in area and is
located in the NHR zone district.
TUCKER/MORAN MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. PASSED 7-0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. DR-92-011 - Cooper-Hart, 20576 Third St., request to allow
a rear deck to exceed the maximum allowed 5
ft. underfloor area by approximately 3 ft. , 10
inches pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City
Code. The parcel is approximately 4,250 s.f.
in area and is located within the R-M-3,000
zone district.
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Planner Walgren presented the Report dated June 10, 1992, and
answered questions of the Commission. He noted there have been no
concerns or objections from the neighbors.
Com. Moran suggested planting trees to break up the mass of the
house when driving up Oak Street.
Chr. Caldwell opened the public hearing at 7:44 p.m.
Ms. Kim Cooper-Hart stated she would answer any questions of the
Commission. In response to Com. Moran's question regarding
planting of trees, Ms. Cooper-Hart feels there is not enough sun
for trees.
Com. Moran stated she would like to see the side of the house, as
addressed earlier, landscaped to alleviate the mass to the house.
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DURRET/FAVERO MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PASSED 7-0.
FAVERO/DURRET MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION DR-92-011.
Com. Favero stated this is a single family application within a
multi-family neighborhood and the area is being improved and hopes
that at a later date the applicant would consider adding trees to
mitigate the mass.
Com. Bogosian stated he would support the motion, but expressed
concern about the findings. He noted the lack of the neighbors
objections have no relevance to the findings and should not be
included in the design review process. All the Commissioners
agreed.
THE ABOVE MOTION WAS CARRIED 7-0.
5. DR-91-063 - Evans, 21225 Comer Dr., request for design
review approval to construct a new, 8,024 sq.
ft., two-story residence and to allow two rear
yard decks to exceed the minimum allowed 5
foot underfloor clearance area, pursuant to
Chapter 15 of the City Code. The lower deck
is proposed at a height of 6.9 feet with the
upper level deck approximately 8.4 feet beyond
that. The parcel is approximately 5 acres in
size and is; located within the NHR zone
district.
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report dated June 10, 1992 and
answered questions of the Commission regarding the application. He
noted amendments to the resolution.
In response to Chr. Caldwell's question, Mr. Walgren stated the
brick veneer will go across the entire rear elevation of the under
floor balcony.
Com. Forbes asked if a landscape plan was submitted.
In response to Com. Moran's question, Mr. Walgren stated the brick
veneer ends where the two-story facade begins.
In response to Com. Forbes' question regarding the landscape plan,
Mr. Walgren outlined the applicants intent regarding this and noted
a landscape plan was not submitted.
Com. Favero stated he would like to see a landscape plan submitted
for new homes on vacant lots. Com. Favero also addressed the
Geotechnical Study. He noted that the City's geologist as well as
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the applicant's geologist should do tests.
Planner Walgren stated this project has gone through extensive
geotechnical review with the City's consulting geologist. He noted
the applicant is responsible for hiring a geotechnical engineer to
prepare a soils report and submit it to the City.
Planning Director Curtis stated the City Engineer has final review
of all the engineering projects.
Com. Favero stated that recent geological studies regarding the
consequence of recent earthquakes and suggested that the City look
into these risks when reviewing the hillsides.
Chr. Caldwell opened the public hearing at 8:02 p.m.
Mr. John Terborg, 22345 Cedar Blvd., Newark, addressed the
geotechnical issue raised by Com. Favero. He noted a complete
landscape plan will be submitted. He noted the brick veneer in the
rear will be on the lower elevation.
Com. Favero stated the facade in the rear elevation seems out of
character.
DURRET/FAVERO MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PASSED 7-0.
The City Attorney requested that the location of the brick veneer
be sketched on the map for clarification.
Planner Walgren stated if the Commissioners wish the veneer to wrap
around the structure, the condition can be amended.
Chr. Caldwell stated she would prefer the brick veneer to wrap
around the tower.
Com. Durket stated he would not support the application at this
time because of mass and bulk. He also noted this home is visible
from the valley floor and he is not satisfied with the analysis of
the geotechnical studies. He noted that planting 24 inch box trees
is not the answer to the screening problems. Com. Durket stated
this structure should be less bulky and is not compatible with the
neighborhood.
Com. Bogosian stated he is not in favor of the application at this
time and concurs with Com. Durket. He noted that he is satisfied
with the geotechnical studies, but concerned regarding the bulk of
the building. He also noted that the oak trees are not the answer
to the screening. Com. Bogosian also noted the veneer does not
mitigate the mass of the rear elevation. He expressed concern
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about the tower element, noting it increased the perceived bulk and
the columns lined up add to the mass.
Com. Tucker stated she can make the findings to approve with the
condition that the brick veneer go around the tower to eliminate
the mass. She stated there are other homes of similar size in the
area. She stated the proposed tree will soften the effect of the
mass. She noted she has no concerns with geotechnical studies and
would leave that to the experts.
Com. Forbes noted he concurs's with Com. Bogosian and would oppose
this. He expressed concern about the delay in the review process
as well as the geotechnical studies.
Chr. Caldwell noted one of the recommendations from the Citizens
Committee regarding Cocciardi matter was to have full contemplation
of the mitigation measures required when reviewing the project.
She noted this policy was adopted by the City Council. Chr.
Caldwell noted they do not have all the information needed to
approve the application at this time.
Planner Walgren stated the City is aware of the policy and the
application has gone through studies with the City's engineer who
allowed the project to continue, but the approval will be
suspended if further construction is required for the road and the
applicant must come back to the Planning Commission for
consideration of that aspect. There shall be no construction until
all the information is in.
Chr. Caldwell addressed the policy adopted and noted the entire
project should be presented to the Planning Commission for review.
Planning Director Curtis stated there has been extensive
geotechnical studies done as it would not have gone to the Planning
Commission if they had not. He noted any substantial changes will
have to come back before the Planning Commission for review.
Com. Favero stated the geotechnical studies took place a year ago
and expressed concern about earthquake acceleration. He feels the
Planning Commission is looking at material that is obsolete and
does not have enough information to make a decision.
Planner Walgren stated that the application has been undergoing
geotechnical review over the year, noting it is an on-going
process.
Com. Moran expressed concern about the mass and bulk of the rear
elevation. She stated the design problems should not be hidden
with landscaping, although landscaping will help. She suggested
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portions of the 2nd floor be pulled back to have a less boxy
appearance and then she would support the application.
In response to Com. Favero's question, the City Attorney noted that
the City can not be held liable for a land use decision. She went
on to explain other liabilities.
Com. Favero reiterated the two concerns of the Commission, those
being mass and bulk, and geotechnical studies. He requested that
the City Engineer give a presentation to the Planning Commission
regarding the studies.
Chr. Caldwell stated her concern is not having the full project in
front of them for review. She noted that more work and analysis
has to be done before a decision can be made.
Planning Director Curtis suggested continuing the application until
the geotechnical studies can be completed.
The Commissioners discussed the time period for the application and
the extension period.
The City Attorney noted the applicant is only allowed one 90 day
extension
Planner Walgren stated the application is deemed complete December
17, 1991 and expires June 17, 1992 noting the applicant can apply
for a 90 day extension. He does not think the geotechnical review
can be complete by September.
Chr. Caldwell stated it would be her preference to seek an
application for extension from the applicant to finish the
geotechnical review so the entire project can be reviewed at one
time. She also expressed concern about the elevation as addressed
by Com. Moran. She noted the degree of destruction on the site is
a major concern.
Com. Bogosian suggested giving the applicant clear direction on the
design review. He suggested that the applicant redesign the second
story element to reduce the bulky appearance of the building and he
would be willing to move forward on the project.
Com. Tucker asked what the Planning Commission's options are and
what is available to the applicant?
Chr. Caldwell outlined the options: approve the project; deny the
project; ask the applicant to continue for the purpose of
completing the analysis under condition 16; continue to determine
how long the analysis would take.
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The City Attorney suggested continuing this to the next hearing and
have the City Engineer attend to give a presentation.
Com. Favero stated he would also request that the applicant's
consultant give a presentation.
Chr. Caldwell reopened the public hearing.
Planning Director Curtis stated staff needs an extension from the
applicant to continue this.
The applicant agreed to an extension.
FORBES/FAVERO MOVED TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING TO JUNE 24, 1992.
Chr. Caldwell noted the purpose of the continuance is to explore
the geotechnical concerns expressed by the Commissioners and also
to address the bulk of the home.
THE ABOVE MOTION WAS CARRIED 7-0.
6. UP-92-004 - Richardson, 13267 McCulloch Ave., request for
use permit approval to allow a detached 400
sq. ft. two-car garage to be located within a
required rear yard setback 6 ft. and 8 ft.
from the rear and side property lines
respectively, on a 10,000 sq. ft. parcel
pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City Code.
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report dated June 10, 1992 and
noted amendments to the resolution. He answered questions
regarding the project.
Chr. Caldwell opened the public hearing at 9:02 p.m.
DURRET/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PASSED 7-0
DURRET/BOGOSIAN MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION UP-92-004.
Com. Tucker requested that the motion be amended to consider
extending the area for planting to shield the neighbors.
Coms. Bogosian and Durket stated they would accept the amendment.
Com. Moran addressed the storage shed on the property.
Planner Walgren stated the approval of the Use Permit for the
detached garage does not take into consideration the legality of
the existing storage shed. He stated staff's field visits indicate
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that the shed is approximately 12 ft. in height, but this has not
been verified. He noted this can be placed as a condition of
approval.
Com. Durket agreed with the condition of approval as discussed by
Planner Walgren.
In response to Com. Bogosian's question, Planner Walgren stated if
the condition was placed in the Use Permit the shed would have to
be brought into conformance or be removed from the property. Com.
Bogosian was amenable to the condition of approval.
Com. Forbes addressed impervious coverage. Planner Walgren stated
a temporary accessory structure is not included in the allowed
floor area for the property.
Com. Forbes stated he cannot support this project unless the green
house is removed and the shed moved back to the green house area.
Com. Bogosian stated this is a fenced in yard and is not adversely
affecting any neighbors and feels uncomfortable about enforcing
more requirements.
Chr. Caldwell noted the amendments to the motion are to add
additional language to condition 6 regarding landscaping and an
additional condition regarding the storage shed.
THE ABOVE MOTION, WITH THE AMENDMENTS, WAS CARRIED 7-0.
7. DR-92-010 - Sobey Oaks Associates, 14701 Sobey Oaks Ct.,
Lot #18, request for design review approval to
construct a new, 4,088 sq. ft. one-story
residence within the Sobey Oaks/Gypsy Hills
subdivision pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City
Code. The parcel is approximately 53,921 sq.
ft. in area and is located in the R-1-40,000
zone district.
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report dated June 10, 1992 and
noted amendments to the resolution. He also answered questions of
the Commission regarding this project.
Chr. Caldwell opened the public hearing at 9:14 p.m.
Mr. Jerry Lohr stated he has worked with staff and has no problems.
He noted several trees are recommended for removal which are in
good health and the owners have no desire to remove these. He
noted this is a small house for the lot and expressed concern
regarding the Tentative Map which requires a step down pad. He
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requested that the floor be completely level.
MORAN/DURRET MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PASSED 7-0.
In response to Com. Durket's question regarding Condition 3,
Planner Walgren stated that if the condition is modified to 19 ft.
height, the applicant must come back before the Planning
Commission, with any changes, for approval. Mr. Walgren also
explained the terrace pads, noting there is no need for the step
down.
Com. Durket stated he does like the design of the home, but would
like to amend condition 3 to 19 ft. Also the tree removal should
be left as a recommendation.
Com. Bogosian stated he did visit. the site and concurred that the
tree removal should be left as a recommendation. He commended the
applicant for a good design.
Com. Tucker stated condition 3 is acceptable to her and asked what
the reason for the change is.
Com. Durket stated he likes the design of the home and would like
to review any changes in the height.
Com. Bogosian stated the site is a hilltop site and height is an
issue, therefore concurs with Com. Durket.
Com. Moran stated she would be in favor of 19 ft.
DURRET/BOGOSIAN MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION DR-92-010 WITH THE
CHANGE TO CONDITION 3 TO 19 FT. AND THAT THE TREE REMOVAL SHOULD
REMAIN AS A RECOMMENDATION ONLY. PASSED 7-0.
DIRECTOR'S ITEMS
Planning Director Curtis presented the Director's items.
1. The work session scheduled for June 30, 1992 has been canceled
because of the City Council Swearing In.
2. Planning Commission retreat for June 27th, it is his
recommendation that this be held in September or October.
There was a consensus of the Commission.
3. He noted that all the Geotechnical information is now due
prior to project being complete.
4. He noted if the Planning Commission wish a department head to
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come before them, the Planning Director relays the request to
the City Manager and he then directs staff.
COMMISSION ITEMS
Chr. Caldwell noted she would like staff to look into the slide on
Diamond Oaks Court. She concurred with Com. Forbes that landscape
plans should be submitted to the Planning Commission for review
with the project. '
Planning Director Curtis stated landscape plans are required, but
they were not available for the application at this hearing.
All of the Commissioners concurred that the landscape plans should
be submitted with the project. -
Chr. Caldwell addressed plan checks.
Planner Walgren stated the plans are checked for accuracy, but they
don't put emphasis on garden structures if they do not interfere
with the application.
Com. Bogosian expressed concern about using the Planning process as
a code enforcement, he feels this ,is a matter for the City Manager.
Com. Moran noted if plans are not accurate it affects her analysis
of an application.
Com. Moran requested that a copy of the next agenda be placed in
the Commissioners packets.
Com. Forbes expressed concern about the issue of application of
Ordinances and questioned why the new ordinance did not apply to
the Evans application.
The City Attorney explained the legality of the conditions noting
that jurisdictions are split on the process to follow. She noted
when a project is reviewed before the new ordinance takes effect,
it is then approved under the old ordinance.
Com. Forbes noted he would like a study session regarding this
matter.
Com. Caldwell noted the Commission would like to reduce the number
of study sessions.
Com. Moran stated that the Commission has a policy for two study
sessions a month, and should adhere to this.
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1. Giberson/Birenbaum correspondence per Commissioner Forbes
request.
The Commissioners discussed the Giberson/Birenbaum correspondence.
Com. Forbes noted that he requested this be placed on the agenda
and expressed concern about the response to the Giberson's.
In response to Com. Forbes' question, Planner Walgren stated the
City Manager was not invited to attend this hearing, noting that
this was under Commissioners Items and not a public hearing.
Com. Durket stated this matter should be before the City Council.
Com. Favero stated this issue .was raised a year ago and he
expressed concern at that time about grading and lack of
supervision. He feels the management of the project is poor and
would like the City Engineer to report on what the City is doing.
Com. Bogosian stated this is not the Planning Commission's
jurisdiction, but the City Manager's and he reports to the City
Council.
Chr. Caldwell noted a copy of the letter was sent to the Planning
Commission and feels it is appropriate to respond to correspondence
received. Chr. Caldwell noted the two issues are weekend work and
noise. She requested information on the City policy regarding
weekend work.
Planner Walgren stated construction work is allowed Monday through
Friday, 7:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. He noted he did talk to the
Assistant to the City Manager who stated that the Sheriff's
Department has been out to the site on two occasions and have not
be able to record any violations.
Chr. Caldwell stated the Planning Commission is an advisory
commission to the City Council and should raise issues of concern.
Com. Durket stated this should be referred to the Planning Director
and go through the correct process.
Com. Tucker stated this should be at the Council level.
Planning Director Curtis stated this was placed on the agenda at
the request of Com. Forbes as a Commissioners Item. He noted
public notice is not given at the request from an individual
commissioner. He stated the process is the Planning Commission
must give direction as a body, before public notice is given.
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Com. Favero stated that any Commissioner has the responsibility to
place an item on the agenda which raises concern.
Com. Bogosian stated he had not taken part in any debate, and if
there is a question about the enforcement it should go to the City
Council.
Chr. Caldwell noted they will discuss the issue of noticing in a
study session.
Written
1. City Council Minutes - 5/20, 5/26 & 5/28/92
Oral
None
City Council
None
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:00 p.m., Chairperson Caldwell adjourned the meeting.