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CITY OF SARATOGA PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
September 22, 1993 - 7:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Ave.
Regular Meeting
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairperson Moran.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Moran, Commissioners Asfour, Jacobs, Murakami and
Wolfe, Commissioner Caldwell (arrived at 7:48 p.m.)
Absent: None
Chairperson Moran noted that Commissioner Caldwell had indicated that she would
be late for the meeting.
Planner Walgren noted for the record the presence of City Attorney Riback. Planner
Walgren also announced that Community Development Director Curtis would be
joining the meeting in a few minutes.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
MINUTES
Chairperson Moran explained that Commissioner Caldwell had requested that the
consideration of the minutes be postponed until her arrival.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were r~o oral communications.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA
Pursuant to c~;overnment Code 54954.2, the agenda for this meeting was properly
posted on September 17, 1993.
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TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS TO PACKET
Planner Walgren had the following technical correction to the packet:
Item #9 - DR-93-029 -GTE Mobilnet/Cellular One -Page 2 of the cover staff
memo, 3rd paragraph under the heading Design Review Discussion, 2nd line
the word "minimum" should be deleted and replaced with the word "maximum".
PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT CALENDAR
1. UP-93-005 - Valiancy; 12580 Paseo Cerro, request for Use
V-93-016 - Permit approval to convert an existing 740 sq. ft. carport that is
within the required rear yard into a fully enclosed garage and
shope and change the flat roof to a pitched roof per Chapter 15 of
the City Code. The applicant is also requesting Variance approval
since the structure is located within the required side yard. The
subject property is approximately 10,720 sq. ft. and is located
within an R-1-10,000 zone district (cont. to 10/27/93 at the
request of the applicant; application expires 1 /20/94).
ASFOUR/WOLFE MOVED TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSENT
CALENDAR. PASSED 5-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. DR-93-003 - Tam; 20800 Boyce Ln., request for Design Review approval to
construct a 1,158 sq. ft. first floor addition and a 1,135 sq. ft.
second story addition to an existing 2,081 sq. ft. single story
residence per Chapter 15 of the City Code. The net gain of floor
area on site will be 1,453 sq. ft. due to the demolition of a
detached garage and storage shed. The subject property is
approximately 24,700 sq. ft. and is located within an R-1-12,500
zone district (cont. from 9/8/93; application expires 9/30/93).
Planner Walgren presented the Report dated September 22, 1993.
CHAIRPERSON MORAN RE-OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:35 P.M.
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Chairperson Moran explained that she and Commissioner Asfour, who were absent at
the first public hearing on this item, had reviewed the application and the minutes on
this application. She stated that there would be no need to reiterate information given
at the last public hearing.
Mr. Tam, applicant, spoke in favor of the project, gave a brief background on various
application and outlined the modifications such as decrease in the height, increase of
the second story setback along the north elevation, elimination of the tower-like
entrance, reduction of roof area visible from the street, and the change of the roofing
material and colors to a more compatible choice. He submitted a picture board to
depict the existing landscape screening on the site and the existing 2-story homes in
the neighborhood. He also presented a map transparency of the area and noted the
existence and location of 25 two-story homes in the neighborhood.
Eileen Lu, 20780 Boyce Lane, stated that she was present to represent the
neighborhood. She spoke in favor of the application and stated that the proposed
design would beautify the area. She stated that she did not feel the proposed design
should be discriminated against just because of its two-story element. She noted that
the proposal meets the City codes and urged the Commission to approve the
application.
There was no one else wishing to speak.
ASFOUR/JACOBS MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:45 P.M.
PASSED 5-0.
Community Development Director Curtis joined the meeting at 7:45 p.m.
Commissioner Asfour thanked the applicant for being patient and taking the time to
modify the original design. Commissioner Asfour stated that his original concerns had
been taken care of and he could now support the application.
Chairperson Moran also thanked the applicant for taking the time to re-design the
house, but noted that she could not make the findings relative to mass and bulk of the
house based primarily on its location on the lot and the lot's location in the
neighborhood. She expressed concern with the appearance of mass and overbuilding
in this location of the neighborhood. Chairperson Moran stated that she sensed that
the application would be approved by the Commission and expressed a desire for the
Commission to take action quickly since the applicant been previously delayed.
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Meeting of September 22, 1993
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WOLFE/MURAKAMI MOVED TO APPROVE DR-93-003 PER THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that he was satisfied that the design would be adequate
for the neighborhood.
Commissioner Murakami noted that he also was satisfied with the design.
Chairperson Moran asked that the Commission consider the color and suggested that
the proposed color of the house be changed or reduced in tone. She noted that she
felt the color was very light and asked the other commissioners if they had a chance
to review the color board.
Commissioners Wolfe and Murakami stated that they had no problem with the
proposed color.
THE MOTION PASSED 3-2 (MORAN AND JACOBS OPPOSED).
Chairperson Moran noted Commissioner Caldwell's arrival at 7:48 p.m. Chairperson
Moran inquired if Commissioner Caldwell was ready to review the minutes.
Commissioner Caldwell indicated that she was ready.
MINUTES
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Minutes of the meeting of September 8, 1993.
Commissioner Jacobs had the following correction:
Page 6, second to the last paragraph, second line, the word "requires" should
be deleted and the word "permits" should be inserted.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired about the 1st paragraph following the 2nd motion on
Page 5 of the September 8th minutes. There was discussion regarding this paragraph
(found below), but no change was made to this section of the minutes.
Commissioner Caldwell had the following correction:
Page 11, 5th paragraph, first line, the words "Chiquita Court" should be deleted
and "a portion of Parker Ranch and the Wong property" should be inserted.
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Page 11, 5th paragraph, 2nd line "Chiquita Court" should be deleted and
replaced with "these properties".
CALDWELL/JACOBS MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 8,
1993, AS AMENDED (ABOVE). PASSED 4-0-2 (MORAN AND ASFOUR
ABSTAINED).
Commissioner Caldwell inquired about the 1st paragraph after the 2nd motion on Page
5 of the September 8, 1993, minutes. She noted that she was under the
understanding that the original tentative map (SD-90-010) did not include building
envelopes. She questioned the accuracy of the paragraph. Planner Walgren clarified
that the original tentative map did depict building envelopes and that during the public
hearing regarding the subdivision approval extension - SD-90-010.1 there was
uncertainty whether the building envelopes appeared on the map. Planner Walgren
further explained that toward the end of the September 8th public hearing on the
extension request he discovered and announced that the building envelopes were
present on the tentative map that was submitted with the original application and that
the map was available for review by any interested party.
Planner Walgren explained that the original subdivision materials submitted to the City
contained a map of the lots with the building envelopes depicted and this map is
available for review to those interested.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired of the City Attorney how this clarification should be
handled with regard to the minutes. City Attorney Riback stated that a paragraph
should appear in the minutes of the September 22, 1993 reflecting meeting the
comments made by Commissioner Caldwell and Planner Walgren and clarifying that
the building envelopes are depicted on the map submitted for the original tentative
map (SD-90-010) review.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. DR-92-013 - Reliance Loan Co.; 20620 Sigal Dr., request
V-93-022 -for Design Review approval to construct a 4,327 sq. ft. two-story
residence on a vacant 1.6 acre hillside parcel. Variance approval
is necessary to allow the 5 ft. tall retaining walls to be located
within a required front yard setback. The subject property is
accessed via a private road easement off Sigal Dr. and is located
within an R-1-40,000 zoning district (cont. from 9/8/93 public
hearing at the request of the applicant; application expires
2/27/94).
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Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 6
Planner Walgren presented the report dated September 22, 1993. He also answered
questions from the Commission with regard to the application and presented the color
board.
CHAIRPERSON MORAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:00 P.M.
Scott Cunningham, project designer, spoke in favor of the application. He discussed
such issues as the existing vegetation, the topography of the site and the proposed
design. He stated that the proposed house would not have any impact on
surrounding properties. He explained that an effective 3-foot retaining wall would be
difficult to achieve because of the sites terrain and topography. He stated that with
regard to the proposed 5-foot retaining wall a variance would be unavoidable. He also
noted that part of the proposed grading/earth moving had to do with stabilizing the
site. He noted that geologists had been consulted with regard to the project, the
grading and its effect on neighboring properties specifically their pools and pool
equipment. Mr. Cunningham explained that the proposed house will step down the hill
and have different levels in order to minimize any perception of mass and bulk. He
stated that additional landscaping would be added and he discussed the proposed
roof materials and exterior colors. With regard to the Floor area regulations, Mr
Cunningham pointed out that the proposed structure would be below the allowed floor
area. He answered questions from the Commission and noted that the project's
geologist was also present to answer any questions.
Mrs. Knoll, expressed concern with regard to the proposed earth moving and its
potential effect on her pool. She stated that she had sent a letter expressing this
concern. She also requested that additional landscape screening be added along the
driveway/access road.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired about the letter Mrs. Knoll spoke of. Community
Development Director Curtis and Planner Walgren explained that the City had received
a copy of the letter from Mrs Knoll's attorney which was addressed to the 20620 Sigal
Drive property owner and his engineer and that the letter had been placed in this
application's file.
Chairperson Moran asked Mrs. Knoll if she had reviewed the landscape plan. Mrs.
Knoll stated that she had not. Planner Walgren showed Mrs. Knoll the proposed
landscape plan. Mrs. Knoll stated that she would still like additional landscaping
installed along the access road specifically the area closest to the rear of her property.
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Planner Walgren clarified that this area which Mrs. Knoll referred begins at Tree #10
and continues up to where the pool decking begins.
Mr. Fipps stated that the proposed project would not be visible from his property and
that he has no objections to the proposal. He stated that in reviewing the plans he
found the site to be fundamentally difficult and noted that atwo-story house on such a
ridge may be questionable. He stated that the proposed design, size and height may
be too much for the site. He also inquired about fire safety with regard to the long
access road.
There was no one else wishing to speak.
JACOBS/WOLFE MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:15 P.M.
PASSED 6-0.
In response to Chairperson Moran's inquiry, Planner Walgren reported that the access
road was approximately 300 feet long and that the Fire District had reviewed the plans
and found them to be acceptable with the conditions as outlined in the staff report.
Commissioner Wolfe noted that because of the limited building envelope of the site a
two-story design may be the only way in which a home of an acceptable size can be
built on the site. He also noted that the design would not adversely impact views from
surrounding properties and that geotechnical testing had been done with regard to the
proposed construction and earthmoving.
WOLFE/JACOB MOVED TO APPROVE DR-92-013 & V-93-022.
Commissioner Caldwell referred to the letter written by the neighbor with regard to any
potential damage to her pool as a result of the proposed project. Commissioner
Caldwell asked City Attorney Riback if she was correct in understanding that the City
would not be held liable for any such damage and that liability would fall on the
property owner/applicant.
City Attorney Riback indicated that this was correct -liability would not fall onto the
City.
Commissioner Caldwell suggested that the motion be amended to modify Condition
No. 8 to read as follows:
"Exterior colors and materials shall be of a medium earthtone as reviewed and
approved by the Community Development Director." She noted that the
proposed colors were not medium earthtone -especially the siding color.
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Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 8
Commissioner Caldwell also suggested that the motion include a condition requiring
adcjitional landscape screening along the access road/driveway between tree #10 and
tree #26.
THE ABOVE AMENDMENTS WERE ACCEPTED BY BOTH THE MAKER ANL~ THE
SECONDER OF THE MOTION.
Commissioner Jacobs stated that he could support the application. He explained that
having seen the site he feels that the nature of the site partly ameliorates the problem
of bulk by virtual effect that the house to a large degree steps down the hill.
Secondly, he noted that he feels the size of the house is not really anegative -being
about 4200 square feet -helps to some degree to minimize the bulk. He also stated
that he did not think the house would be visible from or intrusive to the area despite
the fact that the proposed house will have a view of most of the valley from its second
level. He expressed agreement with Commissioner Wolfe's comment regarding the
limited building area and a two story design on the site. He stated that atwo-story
house would probably be the only practical way to develop the site.
Commissioner Asfour concurred with the comments made by Commissioner Jacobs
and stated that he could support the application. Commissioner Asfour expressed
appreciation for the points made by Mr. Fipps, but explained that because of the
limited building area on the site he feels, as Commissioner Jacobs and Wolfe, that a
two-story design may be the only practical way to develop the site.
Commissioner Murakami stated that his only concern had been fire safety. He stated
that this concern had been addressed and fie could support the application.
Chairperson Moran stated that she could support the application and feels that the
design will work well on the site. She stated that she feels the building materials and
exterior colors are important to the design and expressed hope that the approved
colors/materials would not be changed some time in the future.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
4. DR-93-026 - Bean; 14648 Via De Marcos, request for Design
V-93-017 - Review approval to construct a 5,620 sq. ft. single story residence
on a vacant 1.3 acre hillside parcel pursuant to Chapter 15 of the
City Code and the subdivision Tentative Map conditions of
approval. Variance approval is also necessary to allow the
structure to be located within a required front yard setback. The
subject property is Lot #24 of the San Marcos Heights Subdivision
and is located within an R-1-40,000 zone district.
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Planner Walgren presented the Report dated September 22, 1993.
Commissioner Caldwell noted that a number of the street trees in the development
had either died or were in poor condition. She stated that she would like to discuss
this issue later in the meeting under Commission Items.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AT 8:25 P.M. BY CHAIRPERSON MORAN.
William Bean, applicant, spoke in favor of the application and offered to answer
question with regard to the project.
There was no one else wishing to speak.
AT 8:29 P.M., CALDWELL/MORAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PASSED 6-0.
JACOBS/MURAKAMI MOVED TO APPROVE DR-93-026 & V-93-017.
Commissioner Caldwell asked if the applicant would consider using a darker color
considering the prominence of the site. She also commended the applicant for
keeping the height of the structure down.
ASFOUR/JACOBS MOVED TO RE-OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:30 P.M. TO
ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER CALDWELL'S
QUESTION REGARDING EXTERIOR COLORS. PASSED 6-0.
Mr. Bean, applicant, stated that he did not feel that the proposed color was too light.
He noted that this color had been use on other homes and that it is actually much
darker on a home than it seems judging by the paint chip sample. He expressed a
preference for the proposed color.
JACOBS/CALDWELL MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:30 P.M.
PASSED 6-0.
Chairperson Moran stated that she found the proposed color to be acceptable.
Commissioner Caldwell expressed her desire for a darker color.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested that a condition be added or modified which would
allow the applicant to work with staff with regard to the trim color and that the color of
the trim be approved by the Community Development Director.
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Commissioner Caldwell stated that she was not concerned with the color of the trim.
She stated that it is the color of the stucco that she feels should be darker.
Commissioners Jacobs and Murakami, the maker and seconder of the motion to
approve the applications, stated that they did not have a problem with the color
proposed.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that he felt that the design was excellent and pointed out
to the Commission the design element which steps the house down the hill with the
natural topography for the purpose of minimizing the structure's appearance of mass
and bulk.
Community Development Director Curtis asked if the motion had been amended to
include a condition for a darker exterior color.
Chairperson Moran and Commissioner Jacobs clarified that the motion had not been
amended and that the motion was for approval of DR-93-026 & V-93-017 per the
recommendations of the staff report.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
5. S-93-008 - Yam; 22010 Villa Oaks Ln., request for Site Modification approval
to construct a pool, a pool pavilion and equipment enclosure,
storage shed, and associated decking pursuant to Chapter 14 of
the City Code and a Design Review condition of approval. The
subject property is approximately 1.5 acres and is within an HR
zone district.
Planner Walgren presented the report dated September 22, 1993.
CHAIRPERSON MORAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:35 P.M.
Frank Ho, project architect, spoke in favor of the application and concurred with the
recommendation made in the staff report. He also answered questions from the
Commission with regard to the project.
There was no one else wishing to speak.
ASFOUR/CALDWELL MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:37 P.M.
PASSED 6-0.
ASFOUR/WOLFE MOVED TO APPROVE S-93-008 PER THE STAFF REPORT.
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Chairperson Moran stated that she thought that the site was a very sensitive site and
that Mr. Ho has done an excellent job in putting in all the improvements the applicant
has wanted. She stated that she could support the application.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
6. DR-93-025 - Gochnauer; 15425 Monte Vista Dr., Lot #3, request for Design
Review approval to construct a new 5,966 sq. ft. single story
residence and a pool and associated decking per Chapter 15 of
the City Code. The subject property is approximately 45,260 sq.
ft. and is located within an R-1-40,000 zone district.
Planner Walgren presented the Report dated September 22, 1993. He noted that he
did not have the materials/color board, but that the colors were called out on Page 4
of the plans.
Chairperson Moran asked Planner Walgren about the length of the house. Planner
Walgren indicated that he would measure the length and let her know that
measurement.
Commissioner Jacobs stated that he also had a question about the length until he
looked at Page 3 of Exhibit "A" the aerial view.
There was some discussion regarding the length of the house. Chairperson Moran
stated that the house was approximately 93 feet plus the length of the garage.
CHAIRPERSON MORAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:45 P.M.
Jerry Lohr, representing the applicant, spoke in favor of the application. He noted that
a color board had been submitted and should be with the file. Mr. Lohr explained that
the house was designed to sit on the lot at an angle and that the garage would not be
visible from the street.
CALDWELL/ASFOUR MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:45 P.M.
PASSED 4-0
CALDWELL/MURAKAMI MOVED TO APPROVE DR-93-025 AS RECOMMENDED
IN THE STAFF REPORT.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that she could support the application and that she
found the design to be compatible with the neighborhood.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
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7. UP-92-008.1 - Baker; 14700 Oak St., request to modify a
DR-93-002.1 - previous Use Permit and Design Review application in order to
increase the height of a detached garage from 12 feet to 14 feet
and to relocate the existing house approximately 5 feet away from
the garage per Chapter 15 of the City Code. The parcel is
approximately 14,326 sq. ft. and is located within an R-1-10,000
zone district.
The Report dated September 22, 1993 was presented to the Commission by Planner
Walgren. Planner walgren also answered general questions with regard to the project.
AT 8:48 P.M., CHAIRPERSON MORAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
Howard Baker, applicant, spoke in favor of the application. He explained his
preference for the "farmhouse" look. He explained how the proposed design would
allow him to modify the garage to create abarn-like appearance which he feels would
be more compatible with the existing main structure.
There was no one else wishing to speak.
AT 8:49 P.M., WOLFE/CALDWELL MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PASSED 6-0.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that he felt the proposed height and design were
reasonable requests and would enhance the appearance of the property.
WOLFE/JACOBS MOVED TO APPROVE UP-92-008.1 AND DR-93-002.1.
Chairperson Moran expressed her support for the applications and explained that she
thought the request was reasonable and would improve the overall look of the
property.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
At 8:50 p.m., Chairperson Moran announced that the Commission would take a 10
minute recess.
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Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 13
Community Development Director Curtis announced that the newly appointed Planning
Commissioner, Marcia Kaplan, was in the audience and the Commissioners may want
to take the opportunity (during the recess) to meet her.
The Director also reported that Ms. Kaplan would be sworn in at the October 6, 1993
City Council meeting.
At 9:02 p.m. Chairperson Moran reconvened the meeting.
8. LL-93-005 - Wilk; 13519 Old Oak Way, request for Lot Line
DR-93-033 - Adjustment approval to transfer equal amounts
V-93-015 - of land between two parcels per Chapter 14 of the City Code.
The request also involves Design Review approval to add 1,937
sq. ft. of floor area to an existing 2,423 sq. ft. two-story residence
and Variance approval to allow the additions to' retain a maximum
17.5 ft. front yard setback where 30 ft. is required and to locate
two of the additions on slopes greater than 40% per Chapter 15 of
the City Code. The parcel size is approximately 1.3 acres and is
located within the Hillside Residential (HR) zone district.
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Planner Walgren presented the Report dated September 22, 1993, and answered
questions from the Commission with regard to the project.
With regard to the staff recommendation to conduct boring tests on Trees No. 5 and
4, Commissioner Caldwell asked for clarification from the staff with regard to what kind
of procedure would be followed dependant upon the test results.
Planner Walgren explained that the applicant had originally mark the trees for
preservation, but upon the City arborist's examination of the trees and the impact the
proposed development may have on them, it was determined that at least one of the
trees could potentially have extensive decay and pose a safety hazard. He further
explained that staff has added a condition requiring boring tests to be conducted prior
to issuance of a building permit and if the trees measure up to a reasonable health the
trees will be preserved according to the plan. However, if the tress are in poor
condition they will be permitted to be removed. Planner Walgren clarified that the
arborist was particularly concerned about Tree #4.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired whether any consideration had been given to
replacement value of the trees.
Planner Walgren stated that he did not think a replacement value had been called out
based on the fact that the site is so heavily wooded.
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Commissioner Caldwell commented that this may be a good candidate for off-site
replacement.
AT 9:07 P.M. CHAIRPERSON MORAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
Steve Wilk, applicant spoke in favor of the application. He explained that the home
was originally designed and built around Trees #4 & 5. He noted that piers had been
used in the construction of the home, but since its original construction the piers have
sagged and have caused foundation problems to the home. Mr. Wilk reported that he
had consulted structural engineers who had advised him to install additional piers to
support the house. He further reported that the area in which the piers need to be
installed is in close proximity to the trees and would have an adverse effect on them.
He also stated that in order to get the necessary equipment to his house, Tree # 4
would need to be removed. With regard to Tree #5, Mr Wilk explained that this tree
was also posing damage to his home and may be affected by the proposed
construction. He urged the Commission to allow him to remove both trees if
necessary. Mr. Wilk also gave a brief presentation on the proposed remodel of his
home.
Commissioner Caldwell asked Mr. Wilk if he would be opposed to off-site replacement
of the two oak trees should their removal be necessary.
After clarification of Commissioner Caldwell's question, Mr. Wilk stated that he would
not be opposed to a condition requiring off-site replacement of the trees.
Mr. Wilk, in response to Chairperson Moran's question, indicated that the proposed
design had been made in hopes of retaining Tree # 5 and that he (Mr. Wilk) would
like to try to preserve it.
Chairperson Moran asked Mr. Wilk if he would be opposed to a darker exterior color
than that proposed.
Mr. Wilk indicated his preference for the color proposed. He noted that the color may
look light on the color chip, but that it is actually a dark beige.
Terry, 13492 Old Oak way, stated that as a neighbor who would be looking at the
house he was happy with the proposed color. He noted that the Commission tends to
lean toward darker tone colors and he feels darker colors are not always better.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired about a letter received from the neighbors with regard
to construction hours.
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Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 15
Planner Walgren noted that a letter had also been received by Warren Anderson
expressing concern with whether the project had received geotechnical review and
also requesting that no work (construction) take place before 8:00 a.m.
Terry, 13492 Old Oak Way stated that 8:00 a.m. had been the standard (starting time)
in that area, but that the Cocciardi projects had trucks coming to the construction site
as early as 6:30 or 7:00 a.m.
Planner Walgren stated that the ordinance allowed construction activity from 7:30 a.m.
to 6:00 p.m. Sunday through Saturday so long as the noise at 25 feet away from the
property does not exceed 83 dBA.
SINCE THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, ASFOUR/CALDWELL
MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:20 P.M.
Commissioner Caldwell noted that the City Council had encouraged an off-site tree
replacement program and she asked staff and City Attorney Riback if the Planning
Commission could attach a condition requiring the applicant to participate in an off-site
tree replacement program.
City Attorney Riback explained that the Commission could condition an off-site tree
replacement based on the valuation of those trees removed. He also advised the
Commission to include language in such a condition that would describe the how and
where of such replacement. He explained that it may be more appropriate to require a
security (equal to the value of the trees) be set aside for tree replacement. He noted
that since there is no current policy the Commission may also want to specify the
applicants participation based the City enacting such a policy prior to the project's final
inspection.
Commissioner Wolfe inquired with what the applicant would be required to replace the
trees.
Planner Walgren explained that the arborist would assist the City with establishing a
replacement or monetary value.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that the applicant seems to suffer 3 times with regard to
this procedure - 1) the tree removal cost; 2) the assessment of the replacement value;
and 3) the cost of the new replacement tree.
Planner Walgren explained that the homeowner would be subject to either the
replacement value or the cost of the new replacement tree.
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Commissioner Asfour spoke in favor of simplifying the process, skip boring test for
tree # 4 and allowing the applicant to remove the tree for the reasons that the tree is
not in good health and is damaging the home.
Chairperson Moran inquired about the length of the home.
Planner Walgren reported that the house is 107 feet long.
Chairperson Moran expressed concern with regard to the proposed color of the home
and stated that she felt the home would fit in better amongst all the trees if the home
were to be a darker color.
Commissioner Jacobs concurred with Commissioner Asfour's comments regarding
Tree #4 and supported his suggestion to simply allow the applicant to remove the
tree. Commissioner Jacobs expressed support for the preservation of Tree #5.
Commission Jacobs also stated that he has no problems with the proposed changes
to the entry way and explained that the changes may help to visually break up the
large flat elevation of the house. He noted that the encroachment of this addition
would not cause adverse impacts.
CALDWELL/JACOBS MOVED TO APPROVE V-93-015.
Commissioner Caldwell explained that she is generally not enthusiastic about
approving structures on slopes of this magnitude, but since this is an existing site and
residence and since there are extenuating physical circumstances/features to this
property, as discussed in the staff report, variance findings could be made to support
this application.
Chairperson Moran stated that she thought that this site presented very unusual
circumstances that warrant a variance for further expansion. She noted the many
topographical constraints presented to the homeowner who wishes to increase the
size of the house. She expressed her hope that this does not signal enthusiasm of
the Commission for development on lots of similar slope.
Commissioner Jacobs inquired if the motion to approve the variance would allow for
the addition of the entryway and if he maker of the motion would be willing to amend
the motion so as to modify Condition #3 to allow the entryway design as proposed.
Community Development Director Curtis pointed out that Condition #3 to which
Commissioner Jacobs referred is actually in the Design Review Resolution and that the
Variance resolution only refers to the design review conditions. He noted that this
Condition( No. 3) would need to be modified in the design review resolution.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 17
Commissioner Jacobs acknowledged this explanation and withdrew his request.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
Commissioner Asfour expressed concern with the proposed front/entryway addition
and its close proximity to one of the Redwood trees.
Chairperson Moran stated that although she agreed with Commissioner Jacobs with
regard to the entryway remodel and function as a visual break to the elevation, she is
in support of Condition #3 (in the design Review Resolution) and feels that a redesign
on paper where the entryway would not encroach any further would be beneficial.
CALDWELL/ASFOUR MOVED APPROVAL OF DR-93-033 WITH THE FOLLOWING
MODIFICATIONS:
MODIFY CONDITION #7 TO REQUIRE THAT THE EXTERIOR
COLORS BE A MEDIUM EARTHTONE - A LITTLE DARKER
THAN THE COLOR PROPOSED -STUCCO FINISH AND TRIM,
REDWOOD DECKING AND BROWN COLORED TILE AS
APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR.
MODIFY CONDITION 96 TO CONTAIN LANGUAGE
REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE FOR OFF-SITE
REPLACEMENT OF EITHER OR BOTH TREES #4 AND 5 IF
REMOVED PER DIRECTOR APPROVAL BASED ON THE CITY
ARBORIST'S RECOMMENDATION PROVIDED THAT A POLICY
FOR OFF-SITE TREE REPLACEMENT IS DEVELOPED BY THE
CITY PRIOR TO FINAL OCCUPANCY OF THE PROJECT.
TREE #4 MAY BE REMOVED WITHOUT A BORING TEST.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
CALDWELL/JACOBS MOVED TO APPROVE LL-93-005 PER THE STAFF REPORT.
THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
9. DR-93-029 - GTE Mobilnet/Cellular One; 14471 Big Basin Way, request for
Design Review approval to install two cellular transmission arrays,
consisting of 18 individual antennas, on the roof of an existing
structure in the Commercial Historical (CH) zone district per
Chapter 15 of the City Code. A Negative Declaration has been
prepared for this project in accordance with the provision of the
California Environmental Quality Act.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 18
Community Development Director Curtis presented the Report dated September 22,
1993. He also answered general questions with regard to the project and noted that
the City had received a number of letters, many from local real estate agents, attesting
to the need for better telecommunications in Saratoga. He also stated that no letters
of opposition were received.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired if the City had received any letters from the applicants
expressing a need for better telecommunications within Saratoga.
The Director stated that no letters had been received from the applicants.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that the application for such additional telecommunication
antennas could serve as the applicants' expression of need for better
telecommunications within Saratoga. Commissioner Wolfe also reiterated a point
made by the Director in the Staff Report that this application had been submitted jointly
by two competitive telecommunications companies seeking to improve the service they
provide.
Community Development Director Curtis explained that technically the application is for
two different types of devices that would be placed at one location.
Commissioner Asfour stated that he was unable to use his Cellular phone within the
Saratoga area.
Commissioner Jacobs inquired if the Commission could approve the application with a
condition that would require the applicant to replace the original devices with newer
devices should technological advances produce less intrusive equipment.
City Attorney Riback explained that the Commission could condition the approval in a
way to allow the application to be called up by the Commission to review more
advanced equipment. At that time, Attorney Riback explained, the Commission could
decide whether to require installation of newer equipment.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that she appreciated staff's investigation into potential
health hazards associated with such antennas. She inquired as to the action the City
could take should a health issue arise or proof of associated health hazards be found.
She also asked if there was any action that could be taken if and/or when the
application is approved that would protect the City in such a situation.
City Attorney Riback explained that if health, safety or welfare concerns associated
with this use arise the City can call up the application for review.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 19
Chairperson Moran asked about the length of time the specimen antennas have been
in place, if the sampling matched in number, color, amount of wiring and etc. as the
proposed, and about the number and nature of any complaints or comments received
regarding the replica antennas.
Community Development Director Curtis explained that the antennas have been up
since July and do accurately represent the proposed project. He stated that he had
talked to 3 or 4 people when they (the antennas) first went up and most people knew
the purpose of the antennas. He mentioned that most of the people were village
merchants.
Chairperson Moran inquired if the applicant had indicated whether a smaller or less
intrusive version of the antennas might be used at this location if the application is not
approved.
Director Curtis stated that this question should be directed to the applicant. He stated
that he had asked the applicants if the antennas could be brought closer together
which would allow for the antennas, from a design stand point, to somehow be at
least partially screened. He explained that the applicant had responded by explaining
that the antennas needed to be spaced as they are now in order to be effective.
Chairperson Moran inquired about the process should this application be approved
and the antennas do not quite do the job.
Director Curtis explained that it is the Commission's responsibility to review the
application from a Design stand point and let the applicant deal with the antennas from
a functional point of view. He stated that should the antennas prove to be insufficient
and need to be modified, a new review would need to take place and the applicant
may possibly need to seek a variance pertaining to the height.
Chairperson Moran acknowledged receipt of a letter from Mr. Amezcua expressing
concerning regarding screening the antennas from his coffee shop patrons. She
asked if staff's understanding of Mr. Amezcua's concern, based on his letter and
discussions, had to do with aesthetics/design purposes or for health concerns.
Director Curtis indicated that this was his understanding of Mr. Amezcua's reasons for
requesting screening. He stated that staff has accepted the technical information that
screening was not necessary to reduce any kind of affect from the antennas.
Screening was only looked at for the purpose of hiding the antennas. He explained
that staff was of the opinion that the proposed antenna would not have a substantial
environmental impact that would warrant some type of screening device.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 20
Commissioner Murakami asked how the applicants came to choose the subject site.
Community Director Curtis stated that he was unsure and advised Commissioner
Murakami to direct his question toward the applicants.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that she understood Mr. Amezcua's concern as
expressed in his letter, to be relative to his customers perceived health concerns
pertaining to the antennas. She pointed out that the Coffee Exchange is one of the
anchor businesses in the Village area. She noted that the Commission has tried, in
the past, to protect neighbors from all sorts of things and since this structure will be
located in the Village area which is upon economic straights, she wondered if staff had
given some consideration to this point with regard to requiring screening of the
antennas.
The Director explained that staff had given consideration to this fact and noted that if
the City tried to screen specific users the City may need to go around the entire
Village to make sure the project is screened from all businesses and sites.
Commissioner Jacobs stated that he felt the letter was pretty clear in indicating that
screening of the antennas for aesthetic reason would not be enough and that Mr.
Amezcua was concerned with potential EAR transmissions.
The Director explained that his discussions with Mr. Amezcua indicated that his (Mr.
Amezcua's) concern had to do with the perception of his customers. Director Curtis
explained that based on the information submitted it is not necessary to do screen the
antennas for health reasons. The Director stated that his concern is that the City
would be requested to require screening such as trellises or patio covers throughout
the Village and that the City would be put in a position of expo facto conditioning
trellises and patios. He asked where would the line be drawn with respect to this
situation.
Commissioner Caldwell explained that typically with design review applications
neighbors are noticed and any (neighbors) with concerns come down to voice the
concerns and the Commission tries to work with both the applicants and the
neighbors. She further stated that the Commission tries to condition approvals to
ensure minimization of impact to the neighbors, but that the Commission does not
generally go out of its way to require extraordinary protection for everyone in the
neighborhood especially if they (the neighbors) have not voiced concern with the
project. She stated that the Commission usually takes into consideration the concerns
expressed (either verbally or written), the Commission then tries to mitigate those
concerns, adopts a resolution and that is usually the end of the matter. She stated
that she did not understand the Director's analogy with regard to the screening
requested by Mr. Amezcua.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 21
Director Curtis stated that this application is before the Commission for their review
and that he (Curtis) in his explanation (above) was only anticipating someone else
asking why wasn't screening provided for them/their property. He stated that staff
does not feel the unscreened antennas (He noted that only about a half dozen are
visible from Big Basin Way) are inappropriate otherwise the recommendation would
have been for denial.
CHAIRPERSON MORAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:00 P.M.
Mike Mangiantini, Bay Area Cellular One Telephone Company, provided background
information on the project. He noted that this application was a combined effort of two
companies -Cellular One and GTE Mobilnet - to provide better telecommunications in
the Saratoga area. He explained that the companies have to meet certain FCC
regulations. He further explained that the applicants have tried to be sensitive to the
City's design standards and its setting. He noted that the applicants have put forth
much effort in locating an appropriate site for the antennas. He explained that roof-top
antennas (as the one proposed) tend to work well in a village setting as opposed to
introducing afree-standing antenna.
Megan Matthews, representing GTE Mobilnet, co-applicant, spoke in favor of the
project. She outlined the details of the project with regard to the subject site and the
construction. She explained that there would be a 30-day construction time line, no
new or additional lot coverage, no grading, no noise impacts, no interterence with
other communications such as radio, television computers and etc. She stated that
the antennas would be unmanned, except for 2- 3 maintenance trips per month. She
presented a visual display and reported that the antennas would be visible from only 5
sites within the village area.
Commissioner Asfour stated that he understood that the antennas' effectiveness had
to do with the line of site to users. He asked how these antennas could be effective if
there is a limited line of sight.
Drew Davis, GTE Mobilnet radio engineer, stated that the service in the area would be
restricted because of the limited line of sight, but that the service which the antennas
will provide to the area would be sufficient. He noted that the applicants had to
provide service to their customers,but at the same time work within the City's design
criteria.
Commissioner Murakami inquired about the necessary power hook-up.
Mr. Davis stated that the antennas would run off of a regular 220 power supply.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 22
Commissioner Caldwell inquired about the events that have taken place since the
original application, its subsequent denial and the current proposal that consists of
much less intrusive devices. She wondered if there are currently device even less
intrusive than that proposed.
Drew Davis, explained that the original proposal was for a more powertul device. he
explained that because of the customer demand for service in this area the companies
were forced to take action to provide some kind of service. He further explained that
the service that would be provided by the proposed antennas would not be
considered "ideal", but that it was better than no service to the area at all.
He explained that both companies are public communication services and are required
to meet certain standards. In response to a question from the Commission, Mr. Davis
stated that should this proposal not work up to the expectation they (the companies)
may look to other smaller units in other locations. However, he stated, the companies
were confident that this project would be sufficient to serve the intended area. With
regard to the site selection, Mr. Davis explained that the proposed site is the most
central and feasible site that would fit in with the existing telecommunications network
pattern.
David Hatch, Cellular One Real Estate Manager, presented transparencies depicting
the telecommunication coverage plot/pattern. He explained the ideal cellular service
pattern and compared it to the current telecommunication service/pattern in the
Saratoga area. He pointed out that Saratoga is one of the three most problem areas
of the entire telecommunication network. An assistant engineer for Cellular One also
assisted in explaining the transparencies to the Commission.
Dr Polson, 18985 Tuggle Avenue, noted his report included in the staff report which
indicates that there are no hazards to human health emitted from the proposed
devices. He also offered to answer questions from the Commission.
Peggy Owatha, representing GTE Mobilnet, spoke in favor of the application, provided
project background and discussed such issues as zoning restrictions, the original
application and design criteria. She stated that Saratoga is in dire need of cellular
coverage so much so that two competitive companies have come together in the
application to establish a shared site for their available devices. She stated that these
companies are required to meet certain FCC and California Utilities standards. She
stated that she feels this is the best possible project (of this nature) that the
Commission will see in the village area. She stated that this proposal will provide a
great service to the community. In response the Commission with regard to the action
the companies would take if the project does not meet the needs of the community,
the speaker explained that the companies may need to seek another sight and come
back before the Commission.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 23
Jim Rosenfeld, owner of the building at 14471 Big Basin Way, (14219 Okanogan Drive,
spoke in favor of the application. He pointed out that he and Mr. Amezcua have had
discussion for the past two years with regard to erecting some type of coverage in the
courtyard area. He explained that there is no room for such patio cover or that type
of accommodation. He stated that he felt Mr. Amezcua was using this proposal as an
opportunity to have this patio cover. Mr. Rosenfeld stated that the patio area is only
20 feet wide and such a trellis structure would impact the property site line. He also
noted that 5 feet up is the next patio level and a such a patio cover would be
infeasible and an obstruction to the other patio. He also explained the there are three
other tenants in the building and that the patio area is common grounds and that any
type of structure on the patio are would be unacceptable and would result in his (Mr.
Rosenfeld's) approval of this project. He stated that he had no problem with
screening at the roof level.
Victor Amezcua, owner of International Coffee Exchange, expressed concern with
potential adverse health effects that the proposed antennas might have on his
customers. He also expressed anxiety with regard to the psychological impact the
antennas would have on his clients and how this may adversely affect his business.
He stated that if any other merchants were concerned about screening they should
come forward and state those concerns. He questioned why only 200 notices were
sent out when there is a City population of 30,000. He stated that he had been
advised that he could be held liable in the future for the health impacts the antennas
may have on his customers. He stated that he does not intend to squelch the project,
but would like to have some type screening erected between his business and the
antennas.
Frank Patten, 12824 Carniel Court, asked how many Commissioner had a cellular
phones. He stated that there is a great community need for good phone service. He
stated that many people use car phones as a means of business and urged the
Commission to approve the application. He invited the Commissioners to use his car
phone to demonstrate the poor cellular phone service in the area.
Peggy, GTE representative, stated that the applicants had no further comments and
urged the Commission to approve the application.
ASFOUR/JACOBS MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:45 P.M.
PASSED 6-0.
Commissioner Murakami asked the City Attorney if it was his opinion that Mr.
Amezcua could be held liable for health conditions of his customers relative to the
proposed antennas and their proximity to his establishment.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 24
City Attorney Riback clarified that he was not representative of Mr. Amezcua, but in his
(Attorney Riback's) opinion there is insufficient evidence to find Mr. Amezcua liable of
any health conditions of his customers relative to the proposed antennas.
Commissioner Jacobs stated that he had no problem with regard to the design. With
regard to health issues, Commissioner Jacobs stated that he feels that there is no
empirical evidence of adverse health effects. He stated that he could support the
application with an amendment to the conditions that would allow the Commission to
review the use and require installation of newer, smaller or visually less intrusive
devices that would provide equal service as made available through technological
advances.
There was discussion on who should be responsible for tracking and advising the City
of available equipment. it was the consensus of the Commission that the applicants
take the responsibility of advising the City of newer, less intrusive devises.
Commissioner Asfour stated that he had no problem with the application and
expressed his preference not to require screening because of the insignificance of the
impact on the environment.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that there are no riskless technologies, but there are
acceptable risks and that he could support the application. He explained that there is
currently no evidence of health concerns. With regard to the concerns of Mr.
Amezcua, Commissioner Wolfe stated that these are perceived concerns and may or
may not be real and may merely disappear. He stated that he felt the patrons of the
Coffee exchange would continue to visit the establishment.
Chairperson Moran stated that she felt the proposed antennas would be reasonably
unobtrusive and the site is an acceptable one for this project. She stated that she
could support the application. She suggested that the 3rd "Whereas" in the resolution
include the specific number, color and height of the antennas.
WOLFE/ASFOUR MOVED TO APPROVE DR-93-029 WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION MADE BY CHAIRPERSON MORAN (IMMEDIATELY ABOVE)
AND WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDED LANGUAGE: THAT THE CITY RETAIN THE
RIGHT TO ASK TO HAVE THE APPLICANT REPLACE THE INSTALLATION IN
THE EVENT THAT ANOTHER INSTALLATION THAT IS SMALLER, LESS
INTRUSIVE OR SMALLER IN NUMBER THAT PROVIDES EQUAL SERVICE
BECOMES AVAILABLE. THE APPLICANT SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
NOTIFYING THE CITY OF THE AVAILABILITY OF SUCH MORE ADVANCED
DEVICES. THE MOTION PASSED 6-0.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 25
DIRECTOR'S ITEMS
Community Development Director Curtis went over the following schedule with the
Commission:
October 5 -Planning Commission Worksession -Director Curtis will be out of
town and George White will be staffing the meeting -Housing Element will be the
topic of discussion.
October 12 - 5:00 p.m. - 9:30 p.m. -Joint Planning Commission/City Council
Worksession on the Open Space Element
October 13 -Planning Commission Public Hearing
October 27 -Planning Commission Public Hearing
November 23 (Tuesday) -Planning Commission Public Hearing in place of
canceled November 24th Public Hearing.
COMMISSION ITEMS
1. DR-92-030 - Masulis; 19881 Braemar -Request to modify the floor area of a
previously approved Design Review application.
Planner Walgren reported on the proposed modifications. The Commission reviewed
and accepted the proposed modifications.
2. DR-91-073 -Tsang; 14689 Sobey Oaks Ct. -Request to modify the grading plan
of a previously approved Design Review application.
Planner Walgren reported on the proposed modifications. The Commission reviewed
and accepted the proposed modifications.
The Commission discussed the following:
The packet pages were not bait stamped -this stamping is very useful to the
Commission. She asked that the staff try include this on all packets.
Information on building/structure lengths should be included in the staff reports
any time the length exceeds 100 feet.
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Planning Commission Minutes
Meeting of September 22, 1993
Page 26
Some of the street trees in the San Marcos Heights Development have either
died or are in poor condition. Planner Walgren stated that he would look into
the issue and see. if there was a security posted for replacement of the trees or
if the developer would replace them. He noted that there is usually a one year
review period which has passed with regard to this project.
Chairperson Moran asked staff to respond to Mr. Anderson's letter and inform
him of the action taken on the item of his concern and inform him of the City's
construction hours/restrictions.
Community Development Director Curtis reported on the recent activities of the City
Council and Commissioner Jacobs requested that the Commission receive any written
comments submitted to the City Council with regard to changes to the Open Space
Element be forwarded to the Planning Commission to allow for as much review time as
possible.
COMMUNICATIONS
Written
1. City Council Minutes 9/1/93 and 9/7/93
Oral
City Council
ADJOURNMENT
At 11:15 p.m. Chairperson Moran adjourned the meeting to 7:30 p.m. on October 5,
1993, in the Senior Day Care Center, 19655 Allendale Ave. Ave., Saratoga, CA.
Andrea M. Chelemengos
Minutes Clerk