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PLANNING COMN.ISSION MINUTES
DECEMBER 14, 1994
City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue
Regular Meeting
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The meeting was called to order at 7:33 p.m. by Chairman Asfour.
Roll Call
Present: Abshire, Kaplan, Murakami, Patrick, Siegfried, Asfour
Late: Caldwell
Absent: None
City Attorney Riback was present this evening.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
MINUTES
November 22, 1994
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 15, 1994
MINUTES WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS:
- Page 2, Heading prior to Agenda Item 1 to read: "z~G
""~~a-CONSENT CALENDAR".
- Page 9, paragraph 2, line 1, replace ",~,e" with "at~:.c:"
- Page 10, paragraph 9, line 2 amended to read: ..contractor
would make changes without cleck:irig::w.i;tYi::::t1ie
own;ex..... ~~
- Page 11, paragraph one, line one amended to read: "...TO
REQUIRE THAT THE INTERIOR HOI~IZOI~I:'PAI; COLUMN TIES BE NO GREATER
THAN FIVE FEET IN HEIGHT, SUBJECT 'I'O STAFF APPROVAL...."
- Page 11, paragraph 5, line 3, replace the word "e~,er}f" with
"ever".
THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0 (COMMISSIONER CALDWELL ABSENT).
ORAL COMMUNICATION
No comments were offered.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA
Pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this meeting
was properly posted on December 9, 1994.
TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS TO PACKET
Planner Walgren informed the Commission that there were three
corrections as follows:
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- Correcting page one of the agenda, item 1 to reflect that the
Constantin's design review application was for a ":4';:47:3"'
square foot residence, not a "4 ;3-39" square foot residence.
- Correcting page three of the agenda, item 8 to reflect that
the zoning district for the Wells application to be R-1
20:b.OQ, not R-1 }-999.
- Correcting agenda item 1, page 51, under the design review
subheading, amend the third bullet to read: "At two stories,
and 24 ft. in height, the proposal does no:t appear to meet the
intent of minimizing viewshed impacts...."
Chairman Asfour noted for the record that the Commission received
a letter from Matteoni, Saxe, and Nanda, Attorneys at Law, relating
to the Constantin application (agenda item 1). He stated that due
to the length of the letter, he would not have the opportunity to
read the letter received this evening.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. DR-94-031 - Constantin; 20855 Rittridge Rd., request for
V-94-012 - Design Review approval to construct a new 4,473
LL-94-008 - sq. ft. two-story residence on a vacant
hillside parcel with an average slope of 730.
Variance approval is necessary to allow the
structure to be built on a slope of 85°s and to
allow the residence to encroach into required
front and side yard setbacks. Lot Line
Adjustment approval is also necessary to meet
minimum City lot depth requirements. The
subject property is 1.18 acres in size and is
located within a Hillside Residential zoning
district. (Cont. from 10/26/94 in order to
prepare and adopt denial Resolutions;
----------- application expires 2/22/95).
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Planner walgren ----------------------------
presented the staff report on this item. He
recommended that the Commission follow-up on its original motion to
deny the project by first denying the variance request based on the
Health, Safety, Welfare concerns cited during the public hearing
and articulated in the resolution based on building on an 85°s
slope. Followin g this action, the Commission should deny the lot
line adjustment based on the inability to find that the project
would conform with applicable zoning and building requirements.
Lastly, denial o f the design review for the residence based on the
inability to app rove the two previous applications.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 7:41 p.m.
Virginia Fanelli, representing the Constantin's, informed the
Commission that the applicant did not wish to continue this item.
Bob Saxe, attorney representing the Constantin's, addressed the
history of the creation of this parcel. He referred to the
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Certificate of Compliance attached as an exhibit to the letter he
submitted this evening to the Commission. He informed the
Commission that it was brought to his attention that a conditional
Certificate of Compliance was recorded, not the Certificate of
Compliance that his client thought was to be recorded. He stated
that at the time the parcel was created it needed a 150 foot lot
depth. Therefore, the lot line adjustment application is necessary
to satisfy the Certificate of Compliance condition, including a
variance. He further stated that the lot line adjustment does not
have anything to do with the buildability of a parcel. A lot line
adjustment allows a property owner to move a line between two
existing parcels. He felt that there was a theory that in order to
receive lot line adjustment approval, the property owner would need
to comply with all the zoning requirements. The staff report
states that you need to look at the property to determine whether
there is any non-conformity in terms of zoning before granting a
lot line adjustment. He felt that this was an incorrect
interpretation. It was his opinion that you look at the impact of
the lot line adjustment to determine if it would create a non-
conformity. Under the rationale presented to the Commission this
evening, he did not feel that the Commission would be able to grant
a lot line adjustment to any parcel in this community where there
exists a non-conformity with the respective zone. He stated that
the applicant was before the Planning Commission for approval of a
lot line adjustment because the applicant was required to do so.
He accepts that this was a way to solve both problems; granting the
lot line adjustment, thus allowing a condition to be satisfied
which would allow for the recordation of the Certificate of
Compliance. He stated his agreement with the City Attorney that
variances were discretionary. He informed the Commission that
pages 4 and 5 of his letter addressed the findings that can be made
in order to grant the variance. He stated that it was difficult to
understand how this parcel could be treated differently than other
parcels that have come before the City over a period of ten years.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/PATRICK MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
7:50 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0 (COMMISSIONER CALDWELL ABSENT).
Chairman Asfour requested that City Attorney Riback respond to Mr.
Saxe's comments. City Attorney Riback noted that the Commission
has a copy of the report prepared by City Attorney Faubion. He
noted his disagreement with Mr. Saxe regarding whether or not the
lot line adjustment can be granted for property that is found to be
non-conforming with zoning and building regulations. He read from
the Subdivision Map Act which states that a local agency or
advisory board shall limit its review and approval with the
determination of whether or not the parcels resulting in one lot
will conform to local zoning or building agencies. It was his
opinion that should a lot line adjustment be granted prior to a
variance being granted on the parcels, that it would not conform to
the City's building and zoning ordinances because of the parcel's
slope. He stated that a lot line adjustment could not be approved
until a variance is approved.
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Commissioner Kaplan requested clarification regarding page 3,
paragraph b, of the City Attorney's Report, pertaining to granting
of special privileges. City Attorney Riback clarified that
paragraph b was one of the findings that must be made in order to
grant a lot line adjustment.
Commissioner Kaplan commented that page 5 of the City Attorney's
Report requires that the Commission determine whether or not parcel
2 has a potentially buildable site. She inquired if that was an
issue that the Commission had to determine tonight. (Does the
Commission need to make a decision that parcel 2 would not be
buildable either?) City Attorney Riback responded that for the
purposes of the lot line adjustment, there would be an adjustment
to take land from parcel 2 to add to parcel 1 and that a finding
that would need to be made is that the parcel remaining would
conform to zoning and building regulations. Commissioner Kaplan
noted that one of the issues raised was whether or not parcel 2
would remain as a buildable lot or a conforming lot, again a
question of slope. She questioned if that was 'to be factored into
this decision. City Attorney Riback responded that he was not
familiar with parcel 2. It may be that the slope is such that it
is excessive or exceeds the allowable slope under the zoning
ordinance.
Commissioner Patrick asked if the Commission was to approve a lot
line adjustment, would that imply that lot 2 would be a conforming
lot. City Attorney Riback responded that approval of a lot line
adjustment would imply that lot 2 would be a conforming lot and
that a finding would need to be made that the remaining parcel
would comply with zoning regulations.
Commissioner Kaplan inquired as to what rights would be granted if
the Commission approves a lot line adjustment. City Attorney
Riback stated his concurrence with Mr. Saxe that granting a lot
line adjustment does not imply that the lot was a buildable site.
He further stated that there was a difference between buildability
and conformance with the City's zoning and building regulations.
He clarified that a lot line adjustment cannot be granted without
approval of the two variances before the Commission. It may be
that parcel 2 may need to be looked at as well.
Commissioner Siegfried asked if this was a legal lot of record. He
did not feel that this issue was addressed in the City Attorney's
memorandum. City Attorney Riback responded that it was not
addressed because it was not an issue this evening. Commissioner
Siegfried responded that it was an issue for him because the City
has historically taken the position that if you have a legal lot,
you can build on it. City Attorney Riback stated that a
conditional Certificate of Compliance was issued for this parcel.
what that means is that if .the condition is met, than the parcel is
a legal parcel. It was determined that the lot was not legally
created. It was determined after some lengthy period of time by
virtue of looking through the historical records including title
reports relating to this property. Commissioner Siegfried
requested that the public hearing be reopened because Mr. Saxe has
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indicated that this was a legal lot of record and requested further
clarification.
Commissioner Kaplan stated that she would be willing to accept what
the City Attorney has prepared in terms of what the City's position
is.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/MURAKAMI MOVED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING. THE MOTION CARRIED 4-2 WITH COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN AND
PATRICK VOTING NO AND COMMISSIONER CALDWELL ABSENT.
Mr. Saxe stated that it was his understanding that the City was to
file and record a Certificate of Compliance only to find out a year
later that a conditional Certificate of Compliance was recorded
instead of a Certificate of Compliance. City Attorney Riback
stated that he would need to consult with Ms. Faubion from his
office to expand on the issue of the conditional Certificate of
Compliance as she took the lead in discussions with Mr. Saxe. He
stated that he would provide the Commission with a response at its
next meeting.
Commissioner Patrick inquired as to what action the property owner
could have taken once the applicant felt that the Certificate of
Compliance should have been an unconditional one? City Attorney
Riback responded that the conditional Certificate of Compliance was
an administrative action, one appealable to the Planning Commission
within 15 days following notification of action. He stated that he
could not believe that notice was not given to the property owner
and that there was no discussion regarding the action.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
8:05.
City Attorney Riback commented that the conditional Certificate of
Compliance was a draft provided to Mr. Saxe and that at a later
date, it was revised. He felt that maybe the condition was revised
upon review by the City Engineer.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that what he hears Mr. Saxe
stating was that his attachment was what he thought was going to be
recorded and what was recorded was something different.
Commissioner Kaplan commented that she would not be able to review
and digest the letter submitted by Mr. Saxe this evening and that
she does not take this matter lightly. She felt that this item
would be appealed and recommended that the Commission vote on this
item. She stated that she would take the advise from the City
Attorney.
Commissioner Patrick commented that notice is given when a document
is to be recorded and that would have been the appropriate time to
complain or object to the contents of the document to be recorded.
She stated that she would need to rely on the conditional
Certificate of Compliance that was issued and that she would rely
on the City Attorney's advise on this matter.
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City Attorney Riback pointed out that the lot line adjustment
application was applied for in August 1994. If the conditional
Certificate of Compliance was an issue, it seemed to him that this
issue should have been brought up at that time.
Chairman Asfour concurred that the report states that the document
was recorded and was ready to proceed. He felt that there was
ample time for the property owner to come forward and contest or
appeal the conditional Certificate of Compliance.
Commissioner Kaplan questioned why the finding as listed in
Resolution No. V-94-012, Paragraph 4, could not read: "The Planning
Commission finds that the granting of the Variance will be
detrimental to the public health, safety or welfare...." City
Attorney Riback responded that in order to grant the variance, the
Commission would need to make the finding that the granting of the
variance would not be detrimental to the public health, safety and
welfare.
Community Development Director Curtis clarified that the Commission
would need to make the findings to grant the variance but findings
are not required to deny a variance.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. V-94-
019, DENYING THE VARIANCE REQUEST BASED ON THE FINDINGS LISTED IN
THE STAFF REPORT. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0-1 WITH COMMISSIONER
SIEGFRIED ABSTAINING AND COMMISSIONER CALDWELL ABSENT.
Commissioner Siegfried stated that he abstained because he believed
that there was a fundamental issue that he thought was raised when
this item was continued as to whether or not this was a legal lot
of record. He did not agree with the City Attorney's opinion and
did not believe that the issue was addressed.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. LL-94-
008, DENYING THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT PER THE STAFF REPORT. THE
MOTION CARRIED 5-0-1 WITH COMMISSIONER SIEGFRIED ABSTAINING AND
COMMISSIONER CALDWELL ABSENT.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. DR-94-
031, DENYING THE DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION PER THE STAFF REPORT.
THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0-1 WITH COMMISSIONER SIEGFRIED ABSTAINING AND
COMMISSIONER CALDWELL ABSENT.
Commissioner Caldwell entered and was seated.
2. V-94-019 - Holt; 14690 Oak Street, request f.or. Variance
approval to const±-uct a 625 sq. ft. one-story
addition 9.83 ft. from the exterior side
property line where 19 ft. is the minimum
distance required and to extend the existing
front porch pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City
Code. The total proposed floor area including
the existing detached garage is 2,277 sq. ft.
The subject property is approximately 7,525
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sq. ft. and is located within an R-1-10,000
zone district. (Cont. from 11/22/94 public
hearing at the request of the applicant due to
conflicts with the hearing date; application
expires 3/12/95).
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 8:15 p.m.
John Holt, applicant, thanked building and planning staff for their
assistance. He made an exception to condition 5.b. due to the fact
that the existing siding material is no longer available. He
informed the Commission that the new siding closely matched the
existing siding. Planner Walgren informed the Commission that the
siding condition was recommended by the Heritage Preservation
Commission.
Elizabeth Hansen, Heritage Preservation Commission, informed the
Commission that Mr. Holt has gone beyond the Heritage Preservation
Commission's expectation. She informed the Commission that the
garage was not part of the original structure.
Mr. Holt informed the Commission that the roofing material of the
garage would be the same as that of the house.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/MURAKAMI MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
8:20 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
COMMISSIONERS CALDWELL/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. V-
94-019 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SIDING IS TO REFLECT THE
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S DESIRE TO CLOSELY MATCH THE
SIDING OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
(7-0) .
3. DR-94-046 - Bird/Cutler; 14523 Big Basin Way, request for
UP-94-008 - Design Review approval to remodel and add a
403 sq. ft. second floor kitchen addition to
an existing 1,885 sq. ft. two-story commercial
building located within the Saratoga Village.
Use Permit approval is also requested to allow
a restaurant to be established in the upper
' tenant space of this building, currently
"Tresors Antiques", with an office and
supply/coffee roasting room below. The
subject property is in Public Parking District
#1 and is located within a Commercial Historic
(CH-1) zoning district.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item. Community
Development Director Curtis informed the Commission that staff
received a copy of a letter mailed to the Commission. He clarified
that there is concern about parking spaces available at any one
time. His discussions with the applicant early on was that if the
building was to be expanded in any way, that additional parking
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spaces would need to be provided irrespective of the building
department study or the number of spaces that is found available at
certain times. He did not want the comments to be misconstrued.
He informed the Commission that a parking study is being conducted
throughout the City to determine parking spaces available.
Typically, staff would not accept an application and recommend
approval when it does not meet the parking provisions. However, he
felt that it was an issue and felt that the parking space could be
found.
Commissioner Kaplan commented for the record that she attended a
social function where an individual informed her that she received
notice of this item. However, there was no discussion on the
issue.
Commissioner Caldwell asked what would happen to this application
if the parking space deficit could not be found or resolved?
Planner Walgren responded that if the parking space could not be
provided at an alternate site, the use permit would be void because
parking was a condition for this proposal. That was one of the
reasons that staff allowed the applicant to proceed without
investing on expensive plan preparation, etc. In order to expand,
the applicant would need to acquire the additional space. However,
the applicant could proceed with the restaurant use and either
eliminate the 400 square foot addition or reduce the size to 200
square feet because the property requirement is based on a 50"s
threshold. Commissioner Caldwell inquired if a system or a program
has been set up for purchasing credits for parking or does staff
feel that parking credit can be provided in public Parking District
#1? Planner Walgren responded that parking has been worked out in
other districts in the City, but that it would need to be
researched and tailored for this district.
Commissioner Caldwell questioned where staff would draw the line
for this level of approval when there is more than one parking
space shortage? Planner Walgren responded that it would be based
on the reasonable expectation for providing those parking spaces.
If a business came in that needed 15 or 20 parking spaces but that
there was the possibility that repaving and expanded a district to
provide the 15 or 20 spaces, staff may still consider the proposal.
In this case, it appears that there is the potential for 1 to 3
additional spaces to be created which would be available not only
to this business owner but to any business owner in this district.
Chairman Asfour stated that he was surprised that with restriping,
the City could attain additional parking. Planner Walgren
commented that older districts may be able to be restriped to
provide additional parking where the newer parking districts are
designed and laid as efficiently as they could be.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that it was unusual to
conceptually approve a project without architectural plan drawings.
He expressed concern with this process and asked why staff was
bringing this project to the Commission at this time. Planner
Walgren responded that this item was before the Commission at the
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applicant's request
a condition that
architectural plans
of these conceptual
he did not have a p~
may open up a whole
Staff was in agreement with the request with
before permits could be activated, final
need to be submitted which would be reflective
drawings. Commissioner Siegfried stated that
oblem in this instance. However, this process
new process being established.
Community Development Director Curtis stated that staff processed
the plans that were submitted by the applicant. He stated that he
understood Commissioner Siegfried's concern. However, he did not
feel that this would be a precedent setting action for staff. He
felt that the land use issue needed to be resolved. The
architectural portion was a minor issue and felt that expense in
drawings may be unnecessary if there was a question or issue with
the land use. If the Commission wished, it could continue this
item and require that the applicant submit architectural plans.
Commissioner Caldwell asked if this application triggered
discussion of whether Parking District #1 could be restriped. If
that was the case and the Commission decided to move forward with
this in order to accommodate new development, would the applicant
incur the cost of the striping? Planner Walgren responded that the
City has budgeted and scheduled for the restriping to occur.
Commissioner Kaplan stated that the specs for the project located
on page 1 of the drawings indicates a parking variance request of
11. Planner Walgren responded that he was uncertain what the "11"
reflects. It is not a parking variance and that only one
additional parking space is required.
Chairman Asfour asked if the applicant was made aware that if for
some reason that the parking space could not be provided that the
use permit would not be valid. He also asked if the applicant was
still willing to go forward with the expansion. Planner Walgren
responded that the applicant was aware of the various options. If
the space cannot be provided, then the 403 square feet of addition
could not be accommodated.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 5:35 p.m.
Mitchell Cutler, applicant, addressed Commissioner Siegfried's
issues as to why the architectural plans were not submitted. He
stated that he was looking to purchasing the building. He
expressed concern that he was taking an existing building and
working within the guidelines being requested by the "Village".
He stated that in order to make this project work, he needs to
provide one additional parking space. He requested Commission
approval of the variance for the one parking space if possible.
Regarding Commissioner Kaplan's question regarding the notation of
11 parking space, he felt that it was a typo.
Commissioner Patrick inquired if the point of access would be
through the down hill side through the gate that is now closed and
locked. Mr. Cutler responded that access would be from the back
side as well as the front.
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Community Development Director Curtis commented that a variance
cannot be granted to the parking requirements because parking was
established in cooperation with the property owners similar to
Covenant, Conditions, and Restrictions. The City cannot grant
variances on agreements between property owners. He stated staff's
support for the project. However, if the project depends on the
addition, then staff did not recommend that the applicant proceed
with the application.
COMMISSIONERS KAPLAN/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
8:40 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Commissioner Patrick asked who was responsible for restriping the
parking lot and whether measurements have been taken to see of
additional parking spaces could be created with restriping.
Community Development Director Curtis informed the Commission that
the Public Works Department would be responsible for restripping of
the parking lot. Staff felt that with an old parking area,
parking lines can be redefined to provide one space. There is a
question with the ADA requirements to provide additional
handicapped parking spaces. He felt that the old parking lot
layout may not have maximized the efficient use of the circulation
pattern. He felt that one parking space could be found.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired who has the authority as to how the
parking area is managed and ensures that litter is picked up on a
regular basis. Community Development Director Curtis responded
that trash pick up was defined under a maintenance contract,
administered by the City.
COMMISSIONERS MURAKAMI/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO.
DR-94-046 AND UP-94-008 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
Commissioner Caldwell stated that she hoped that the Parking
District's litter is picked up on a regular basis and that the
entire parking area is cleaned up because she noted that it was a
continuous problem. Community Development Director Curtis informed
the Commission that he would pass Commissioner Caldwell's concern
to the Public Works Department.
Commissioner Kaplan asked who maintains the Saratoga/Sunnyvale
Road? Community Development Director Curtis responded that
CalTrans was responsible for road maintenance, including the
sidewalks (anything within the public right-of-way was CalTran's
responsibility).
Commissioner Murakami asked if the City has a once a month street
sweeper who would be responsible for clearing the street?
Community Development Director Curtis responded that there exists
street cleaning serves, including parking districts but was not
aware of the timing for the services.
4. DR-94-043 - Baluni; 14983 Gypsy Hill Rd., request for
Design Review approval to construct a 5,569
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sq. ft. two-story residence on a vacant .96
acre hillside lot located within an R-1-40,000
zoning district. The subject property is Lot
26 of the San Marcos Heights subdivision.
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that more than a couple of the
sites were conditioned to be either single story or two story lots.
He questioned if this lot was in agreement with the original
conditions. Planner Walgren responded that when height
restrictions were placed on the subdivision, staff and the
Commission was looking at the land in its raw configuration. Grade
changes have occurred as a result of the road construction and pad
grading. He did not feel that this lot was affected as
significantly as lot 33 was. The terraces that exists roughly
follows the natural grading.
Commissioner Caldwell expressed concern with the entire area. She
noted that there is no erosion control in place in the whole
construction area. She felt that it was an intense situation and
recommended that erosion control measures be undertaken.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that he raised the question
regarding height limitations because there has been a significant
change in grading then what the Commission thought it was looking
at.
Planner Walgren informed the .Commission that staff received a
letter from Daniel Solomon, the applicant's architect describing
the design process that they went through and the design needs of
the applicant and that the letter was distributed to the
Commission.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 9:54 p.m.
Alex Baluni, applicant, informed the Commission that his architect
would address the design of the home. He also informed the
Commission that design alternatives have been considered over the
past eight months.
Daniel Solomon, San Francisco, architect, addressed the site under
discussion. He addressed the grading that has occurred. He stated
that consideration has been given towards preservation of the
riparian corridor and that the foot print of the home would not
step down into the riparian corridor. If a one story design was
required, the footprint of the house would step down and encroach
into the riparian corridor. The ridge on the uphill side of the
house is 19 feet and the highest point of the down hill side of the
house is 24 feet. Although a one story home would be permitted at
26 feet in height, he felt that the proposed two story home would
be lower than a one story home would be. From Gypsy Hill Road, the
proposed home would be considerably lower than the adjacent two
homes. Regarding the issue of color compatibility and whether the
house would be less obtrusive if the color was darker, he felt that
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the proposed colors for the home would be compatible with existing
homes. He provided the Commission with an alternative color board
sample and presented the Commission with illustrations of the
proposed home.
Thai Nguyen described the location of the illustrations presented
to the Commission.
Chairman Asfour requested staff clarification regarding the comment
made about the fact that if a single story home was built at 26
feet on this lot, that the elevation would be higher than that of
the two story home proposed. Planner Walgren responded that 26
feet was the maximum height limit permitted in the City. Generally
a single story home is, depending on the style, 18 to 20 feet in
height or less. The Commission would be looking at the same type
of application if it was a single story home, but the roof would be
26 feet in height.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that the problem he had with the
design was not so much the height but that of the perception that
if you look at the house, especially the way the roof is designed,
that it creates a much taller house.
Ali Saad informed the Commission that he was in the process of
purchasing lot 25 (corner lot) and the he has reviewed the plans.
He stated his support for the design. However, he expressed
concern that the home was going to be built at a platform that is
already 10 feet higher than lot 25. He recommended installation of
trees or landscaping to provide screening or that lot 25 be allowed
to have a two story home for privacy reasons. He informed the
Commission that he was proposing to construct a Mediterranean home.
Commissioner Patrick asked Mr. Saad how he would want lot 26 to be
built? Mr. Saad commented that he would request screening to
provide privacy.
Mr. Bogros, 15015 Gypsy Hill Road, Lot 27, requested preservation
of the riparian corridor.
Commissioner Caldwell inquired if Mr. Bogros was concerned with any
house being built on the site obstructing his view, or was his
concern with a particular part of the house or that of height. Mr.
Bogros responded that obstruction of his viewshed was of concern.
Mr. Solomon commented that Dr. Baluni was also concerned with the
issue of privacy and would be happy to provide street planting to
the adjacent lot. He stated that he would not propose to face the
garage doors towards lot 25. He noted that lot 27 would be 12 feet
higher than lot 26. Each of the lots steps with respect to the
others. On the side adjacent to lot 27, the house would be 19 feet
high and that the two story portion of the home would only be
adjacent to lot 27. There would be no way to provide a one story
home that would lesson the obstruction of the view for lot 27. He
stated that he was conscientious in attempting not to block views
from adjacent buildings.
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Commissioner Caldwell noted that the plans do not indicate fencing
the pool. She asked for the plans for fencing the area given the
restrictions of fencing in this subdivision. Mr. Solomon informed
the Commission that the pool would be fenced in and that there is
no intention to fence the riparian corridor.
Commissioner Caldwell noted that there is guest parking proposed on
the lot 25 side. The vegetation along that side is four foot high.
She asked if Mr. Solomon was suggesting that he would be willing to
provide a taller, more substantial buffer landscaping along the
entire elevation. Mr. Solomon responded that landscape buffering
was proposed along that side of the lot.
COMMISSIONERS CALDWELL/MURAKAMI MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
AT 9:22 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
Commissioner Siegfried commented that his concern with the house
was that it is perceived as being a much taller and massive
structure than it measures. He was not sure if the proposed home
would obstruct viewsheds.
Commissioner Caldwell commented that if you look at the Sobey Oaks
area that is much closer to this: house in their design
(Mediterranean architecture), those homes have similar fill and
envelops and have very little roof showing. They appear taller and
boxier than those in the Gypsy Hills or San Marcos Heights
developments. If the design was on the Crisp side, she could not
support the design. She felt that it was harder to judge in this
location because there are other Mediterranean home styles in the
area.
Commissioner Kaplan thanked Mr. Solomon for the use of height
poles. She also appreciated that the garage was to be located away
from the front of the house. However, she was concerned that if
this lot was allowed to be built as a two story lot, the adjacent
property owner may request approval of a two story home. If this
occurs, she would be concerned that two homes of substantial bulk
would create an appearance of a massive wall of building. She
noted that this became apparent to the Commission as it drove down
to the lower part of Via de Marcos. From the whole range of Via de
Marcos and back on the opposite side, it looks like too much house.
She understood why the single story suggestion was imposed on these
lots. She felt that the design makes the house appear too square,
boxy or massive.
Commissioner Murakami commended the architect on the use of
material and function of the design. However, he concurred with
staff that the design does not compliment/match the neighborhood.
He felt that with the proposed configuration and colors submitted,
the house would stand out. He stated his support to staff's
recommendation.
Commissioner Caldwell asked if Commissioner Murakami would still
feel the same way with the use of a darker color or would a single
story home at a height limit of 19 feet with a similar design be
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acceptable to him. (was the issue that of design or that of a
one/two story issue?) Commissioner Murakami responded that his
concern was that the design gave the house the appearance of being
bulky. Commissioner Caldwell commented that design review does not
require similarity but that of compatibility.
Commissioner Patrick commented that the home would block views from
certain areas. She felt that the design takes on a horizontal
appearance along the ridge line, leaving less room between the
other houses in the neighborhood. She supported staff's
recommendation because the home appears to block the views from too
many areas.
Commissioner Abshire commented that the tentative map suggested
construction of a single story home. He was inclined to believe
that a single story home would be better. He stated his
concurrence with comments expressed by his fellow Commissioners.
Chairman Asfour commended the architect on the design and layout of
the home. However, he expressed concern regarding the back side of
the home giving the appearance of mass and bulk. He inquired if
the applicant wished to have the Commission make a decision tonight
or whether the applicant wished to have the application continued
to allow him to address comments of the Commission. Mr. Solomon
indicated that he would agree to have this item continued.
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/KAPLAN MOVED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
9:30 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
Community Development Director Curtis informed the Commission that
the January 11, 1995 continuance date may be very tight. He
recommended that this item be continued to January 25 with
additional information being submitted to staff by January 13.
Mr. Solomon commented that it was difficult to satisfy the needs of
the family with the design of a one story building. He stated that
it would be possible to contain the two story building with a
dormer-like roof. He felt that the roof element would allow for a
simple redesign.
Commissioner Kaplan commented that if a two story home is approved,
then another two story home may be requested in the future. She
asked if the Commission has decided not to require the applicant to
adhere to the recorded subdivision restrictions.
Chairman Asfour responded that the subdivision requirement of
single story/two story was a recommendation, not a restriction. He
felt that what is decided on this lot would not affect the decision
of the next application.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that the front view with the
horizontal design gives the appearance that the home is all one
height with no variation. It gives him the appearance of a very
massive, horizontal view. He did not have a problem with a two
story home if there was some greater variation in the roof level.
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Mr. Solomon pointed out that the single/two story restriction was
made before the site was graded.
Mr. Saad commented that he would have a problem with an increase in
foot print because his viewshed would be blocked. He indicated
that should the Commission approve a two story home that it does
not mean that he would propose a two story home on lot 25.
Commissioner Caldwell commented that if a portion of the two story
home was pulled down towards the first floor, you would accomplish
better conformance with the comments of a one story home, making
the structure less of a box-like building, even if it meant
encroaching a little into the pool area to mitigate the
Commission's concern.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/CALDWELL MOVED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC
HEARING FOR APPLICATION DR-94-043 TO JANUARY 25, 1995 WITH
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEING SUBMITTED TO STAFF BY JANUARY 13,
1995. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0)
THE COMMISSION RECESSED AT 9:45 P.M. THE COMMISSION RECONVENED AT
9:55 P.M.
5. DR-94-040 - Wright; 15142 Sobey Road, request for Design
UP-94-007 - Review approval to construct a second-story
addition onto an existing residence and to
allow the structure's total floor area to
exceed 6,000 sq. ft. per Chapter 15 of the
City Code. The applicant is also requesting
Use Permit approval to construct a 759 sq. ft.
detached garage within the parcel's rear yard
setback. The property is approximately 1.69
acres and is located within an R-1-40,000
zoning district.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item.
Commissioner Kaplan questioned who supervises condition '7 as listed
on page 65 of the resolution of approval to ensure compliance.
Planner Walgren commented that the conditions are spelled out in
the resolution. In this case, the City would be taking a tree
security deposit and would require regular inspections by the City
arborist. The condition requires a final follow-up report by the
City arborist in order to release the deposit.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 9:59 p.m.
Maurice Camargo, architect, thanked staff for its assistance in the
process.
Commissioner Murakami asked if the roof design was more of a
function. Mr. Camargo responded that the roof was designed to
accommodate the master suite and to bring the house together i.n the
entry way and court. Commissioner Murakami commended Mr. Camargo
on his drawings.
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COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/MURAKAMI MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
10:00 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/KAPLAN MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION DR-94-040
AND UP-94-007 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
6. SM-94-011 - Mendoza/Stangel; 14640 Via De Marcos, request
for Exemption from the Fencing Area of
Enclosure regulation in order to allow the
proposed fencing to exceed the maximum 4,000
square foot limitation per Chapter 15 of the
City Code. The property is 40,661 sq. ft. and
is located within an R-1-40,000 zoning
district.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item.
Commissioner Caldwell commented that on page 77 of the staff
report, under trees, staff indicates that a condition was placed in
the resolution requiring that the applicant replant new trees. But
in looking at the condition located on page 79 of the staff report,
condition 10.a. states that the applicant has to replace the
removed oak tree with $2,238 "of planting material". This was a
concern to her because the applicant was not being required to
replace the trees or a specific oak tree that is being removed.
Planner Walgren agreed that condition 10.a. should be clarified
that the replacement value is to be for the replacement of native
trees.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that as a member of the Tree
Preservation Committee that the Committee has noticed that the
City's existing ordinance actually contains good provisions and
penalties for illegally removed trees. She inquired if the City
enforces the ordinance in terms of requiring the penalties that are
allowed. She asked what the City is legally permitted to do in the
way of penalizing the applicant for the illegal removal of the
tree(s) so as to deter future illegal removal of trees. She
inquired how staff determined the valuation of illegally removed
trees. Planner Walgren responded that the current ordinance does
give the City the authority to assess a penalty. In the past, the
Planning division staff has asked that the City arborist asses a
value for the removed trees and that assessed value becomes the
penalty.
Commissioner Caldwell stated that she was concerned that the City
may have been lax in the past in not pursuing the maximum penalty
that is permitted under ordinance. Planner Walgren commented that
the value of a mature tree can be very high. In the past, when
illegally removed trees have come to staff's attention, staff has
assessed fairly significant replacement tree values.
Commissioner Kaplan stated that she is offended when an ordinance
size tree is removed illegally.
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City Attorney Riback responded that the City has the right to
require as a penalty the replacement of the removed trees with one
or more new trees which in the opinion of the Community Development
Director provides equivalent aesthetic qualities in terms of size,
height and location of the tree that was unlawfully removed. Where
the replacement tree would not provide equivalent aesthetic quality
because of the size, height, etc., of the unlawfully removed trees,
the Community Development Director shall calculate the value of the
removed tree in accordance with the resolution as a guide. Upon
determination, the Planning Director may require a cash payment to
the City or the planting of the tree or trees. If a cash payment
is required, that cash payment is to include the value of the tree
and then doubled for the purpose of installation of the tree(s).
Commissioner Caldwell stated that the City Attorney's explanation
makes it clear that the condition should state "trees" and the type
of trees that are to be planted.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 10:10 p.m.
Robin Atherton, landscape designer, informed the Commission that
she had nothing to do with the trees that were removed and that
there were no trees on the site when she was retained. She did not
feel that the property owner would object to the planting of
replacement trees.
COMMISSIONERS MURAKAMI/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
AT 10:12 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
Commissioner Kaplan inquired if there was a way to enforce the
ordinance prohibiting removal of ordinance protected trees? She
questioned if one or two additional trees being planted on this
site would mitigate the trees that were removed or has the property
owner planned the site out according to the design. She asked if
the Commission could require a monetary penalty and if so, what
would be done with the money?
Commissioner Caldwell recommended that condition 10.a. be amended
to read: "An itemized listing of proposed landscaping which
reveals that the value of ;'_=-~_-, ___________ ieplacemerit:;.:Cre:es::f:or
.1.i:~gall}!;:;.xeiiioved:„tr;ee:s is equivalent to the valuation of t e
removed oak tree ($2,238)...."
COMMISSIONERS CALDWELL/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO.
SM-94-011 AMENDING CONDITION 10.a. TO READ AS RECOMMENDED BY
COMMISSIONER CALDWELL. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
7. V-94-021 - Hardy, 18534 Ravenwood Dr., request for
Variance approval to legalize an existing room
addition which is located 6 ft. from a side
property line where 8 ft. is required per
Chapter 15 of the City Code. The property is
approximately 10,160 sq. ft'. and is located
within an R-1-10,000 zoning district.
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item.
Commissioner Patrick inquired when the approval would become
effective should the Commission approve this application? Planner
Walgren responded that the room addition would be legalized
effective this evening if the resolution is adopted.
Chairman Asfour asked what the penalty would be for someone who has
constructed without benefit of city approval. Planner Walgren
responded that the Planning division staff did not assess a
penalty. Staff processed this application using the same review
fees that is used as if it was proposed up front. If the
application is approved, the applicant would be required to pay
double building inspection fees, the penalty that the Building
division imposes. In addition, the applicant would need to bring
the building up to conformance with current code requirements.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 10:17 p.m.
William Hardy, applicant, thanked Community Development Director
Curtis and Planner Walgren for their very professional assistance.
He informed the Commission that he would answer questions which it
may have and would agree to comply with the conditions imposed. In
response to Chairman Asfour's question as to whether he was aware
that permits were required, he stated that he was aware that
building permits were required for the addition.
Chairman Asfour stated for the record that a letter was received by
the Planning Commission from Larry Darwin stating that he had no
objections to the application.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/PATRICK MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
AT 10:19 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION N0. V-
94-021 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
(7-0) .
8. DR-94-044 - Wells; 20316 Calle Montalvo, request for
Design Review approval to construct a 478 sq.
ft. single story addition to an existing 3,314
sq. ft. single story residence. Modification
to the existing roof is also proposed with a
12/12 pitch and a maximum height of 25 feet
which will add 1,112 sq. ft. of floor area
within the attic areas pursuant to Chapter 15
of the City Code. The total proposed floor
area is 4,904 sq. ft. The subject property is
approximately 25,220 sq. ft. and is located
within an R-1-20,000 zoning district.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item. Staff
recommended approval of the resolution with an added condition to
require the Storm Water Control Best Management requirement during
the construction phase of the project.
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Commissioner Patrick inquired if a certain vicinity was used by
staff to determine the predominance of single story or a two story
neighborhood. Planner Walgren responded that there is not a clear
procedure to use. The zoning ordinance refers to the immediate
neighborhood or the neighborhood. Staff tries to work with the
applicant to determine what is a reasonable assessment of a
particular neighborhood.
Commissioner Kaplan felt that there were only 19 houses that should
be considered as a neighborhood in this application. She
questioned if 8 out of the 19 homes were considered as a
predominance of a two story neighborhood. She would only consider
the homes located on Cody Lane and Calle Montalvo as the
neighborhood.
Chairman Asfour commented that it was his opinion that one/two
story predominance would depend on the location where the home was
proposed. He felt that there were sufficient two story homes in
the immediate area that would give the two story predominance and
that he could support staff's definition of this neighborhood.
Commissioner Kaplan responded that the Audrey Smith neighborhood
was not a predominance of two story.
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 10:25 p.m.
Mark Harrington, 15705 Poppy Lane, Monte Soreno, designer, informed
the Commission that the Wells had two goals in the design of the
home; the first goal was to improve the homes that are built in the
area and the second goal was to enhance the exterior.
Fred Wells, property owner, informed the Commission that he
circulated copies of the plans to all of his neighbors and that he
has received the neighbors support for the project.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/KAPLAN MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
10:27 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
Commissioner Siegfried stated that he had no problem with the
proposal. He concurred with Commissioner Kaplan's view point. He
recommended that the ordinance relating to single or two story
predominance be reviewed because the ordinance was drafted at a
time when single story homes meant 15 feet. The ordinance did not
take into account what has happened over time.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/ABSHIRE MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. DR-
94-044 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE STORM
WATER CONTROL BEST MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION
PHASE OF THE PROJECT. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
9. DR-94-041 - Sandie; 19400 Saratoga-Los Gatos Rd., request
for Design Review approval to construct a
1,862 sq. ft. first and second story addition
to an existing 4,861 sq. ft. residence
(including existing detached garage and guest
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cottage) pursuant to Chapter 15 of the City
Code. The subject property is approximately 2
acres and is located within an R-1-40,000
zoning district.
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Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item. Staff
recommended approval of this application with the inclusion of a
condition that stipulates that the Storm Water Control Best
Management requirement during the construction phase of the
project.
Commissioner Kaplan asked if the amount of the bond depends upon
how much activity would go on in the vicinity of the tree or was
there a fixed percentage amount affixed to the bond (page 115, last
paragraph of Mr. Coate's report). Planner Walgren responded that
there is a consistent formula that the City arborist will use in
his recommendation and that it is roughly a 30 to 50 percent bond
that would be required depending on the value of the tree. In this
case, the 10°s was one of the lesser amounts that staff has seen.
Commissioner Kaplan expressed concern that the 10 percent
recommended by the City arborist was the least amount of bonding
she has seen recommended by the City arborist. She questioned what
was being protected, was it the work or the trees that were being
protected with the recommended 10% bond?
Commissioner Caldwell informed the Commission that the Tree
Preservation Committee would be recommending to the Planning
Commission that there be a minimal percentage deposit imposed with
some flexibility that staff can use to insist on a higher amount of
bonding if there is significant amount of activity (if the risk of
tree damage is a lot greater). The minimum amount of deposit that
the Tree Preservation Committee is recommending is 20 or 25
percent. A 10°s percent deposit was not contemplated by the
Committee. She noted that the deposit amount has been determined
by Mr. Coate.
Planner Walgren mentioned that it was a discretionary decision to
require the bonding. In this case, it was an added precaution.
If a report is received from the City arborist that states that the
measures for protecting ordinance trees are so straight forward
that one just needs to maintain the fencing, staff can check to
make sure that fencing is being maintained and that a deposit may
not necessarily be required.
Commissioner Kaplan noted that it has been her observation that
construction fencing has not been maintained (i.e., fencing is
down, rubble piled against the trees, etc.).
Chairman Asfour opened this item to public hearing at 10:33 p.m.
Rob Villas, architect, informed the Commission that he would answer
technical questions. He addressed his theory for the basis for
requiring the bond (the distance to the trees and the roots that
were dug up).
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COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
AT 10:35 P.M. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. DR-
94-041 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE INCLUSION OF A CONDITION
TO REQUIRE STORM WATER BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE DURING CONSTRUCTION
BE UTILIZED. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (7-0).
DIRECTOR'S ITEMS
1. Planning Commission Retreat Agenda
Community Development Director Curtis informed the Commission that
a retreat has been scheduled for January 13, 1995. The retreat is
scheduled to begin at 8:30 a.m. and to end at approximately 2:30
p.m. He stated that he would be working with Chairman Asfour to
finalize the agenda. He requested topics for discussion be
submitted to be reviewed by staff and Chairman Asfour.
Commissioner Abshire requested that the City Engineer be invited to
the retreat so that he could explain what he does.
Commissioner Caldwell requested that discussion on what can be
expected once a resolution is approved to ensure compliance with
the conditions contained in the resolution of approvals (what
happens in the inspection process). She requested that the retreat
start at 9:00 a.m. She also recommended that there be discussion
relating to the conceptual plan approval process. '
Commissioner Siegfried concurred that there be discussion relating
to the conceptual plan process. The theory he saw in 'the
conceptual plan process was to try to move the project along in an
expeditious fashion. It was never in his mind that the conceptual
plan process could be appealed to the City Council, changing the
intention of the process. He questioned what was the sense of
approving a conceptual plan only to have the Commission's review
appealed to the City council. The Council changes the plans and
then the changes return to the Commission. He felt that something
was wrong with the concept, especially when it added time to the
process, not shortened it.
Commissioner Kaplan asked if there were any other ordinances that
should be revisited (i.e., predominance). Commissioner Siegfried
felt that the single/two story predominance should be changed to
that of height, not stories.
COMMISSION ITEMS
1. DR-93-012; Pancholy - 21215 Chadwick Ct. - Review of Proposed
Exterior Modifications.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report on this item.
Chairman Asfour stated that he could not support elimination of the
veneer. He inquired if staff felt that the terrace would not
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affect the properties visual impact? Planner Walgren responded
that the exhibits reflect that the lowest elevation shows the
revised terrace and that from a distance will appear virtually the
same. Therefore, staff could support the terrace request.
Commissioner Caldwell concurred with staff's recommendation. She
indicated that the Commission was firm about the use of veneer or
some element so that the building does not give the appearance of
a three story building.
IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION TO DIRECT STAFF TO APPROVE
THE TERRACE ADDITION AND TO DENY THE REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE STONE
VENEER ON THE LOWER ELEVATION.
Mr. Jerry Cates, project designer, 276 Harbor Valley Drive,
presented the Commission with a history of the project. He
informed the Commission that it has been found that the use of
stone veneer would be expensive. He informed the Commission that
the property owner would like to substitute the veneer with
landscaping. He informed the Commission that he had a detailed
landscape plan for its review.
Chairman Asfour commented that vegetation may die or disappear. He
felt that the veneer element assisted in the Commission's decision
to approve the design application and that the Commission cannot
take cost of material into consideration in the approval process.
Mr. Cates inquired if the Commission could make any kind of a
finding through the landscaping if a bond was posted to ensure
landscape survival.
Commissioner Caldwell commented that the problem with Mr. Cates'
suggestion was that the Design Review Handbook which the Commission
is required to comply with in approving homes explicitly states
that it is not to rely on landscaping to mitigate concerns.
Commissioner Siegfried noted that in the case of the recommendation
for landscape screening in the Constantin's application was for the
propose of screening for privacy.
DIRECTOR'S ITEMS (CONTINUED)
Community Development Director Curtis informed the Commission that
the Constantins own two pieces of property (the upper and lower
pieces of property). Staff became aware that the Constantins owned
both parcels at the time that they filed for a lot line adjustment
in August 1994. Staff had the option at that point, per the City
ordinance and Subdivision Map Act, to require the two properties to
merge. It was his position at that point in time not to proceed
with the merger because the applicant had gone through an extensive
investigation and has spent a lot of money in the technical report.
He felt that the applicant should have the opportunity to comply
with the conditional Certificate of Compliance. If the applicant
chooses not to do anything else, then merging of the lot is to be
seriously considered. To that end, he sent a certified letter to
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the Constantine indicating the City's "Notice of Intention to
Determine the Status between the two parcels" and that the City may
be considering initiating a merger. The Constantine would have 30
days to file formal challenge to the action. The merger would come
before the Planning Commission at a public hearing.
City Attorney Riback informed the Commission that the Constantine
were notified 12 days ago of the action taken by the Community
Development Director. The reason that the action was taken was to
protect the City's right to consider a merger at some future date.
Once the notice is recorded, if the Constantine change ownership of
one of the two lots, it would not matter because ownership is
frozen as of the date that the notice is recorded. He further
clarified that the reason this action was not taken a couple of
years ago was because no one asked who owned the parcel down below
and that the Constantine did not offer ownership information. The
whole process would be placed in abeyance until the variance,
design review and lot line adjustment issues were fully resolved.
Commissioner Siegfried inquired as to how long it was known by
staff that the Constantine owned the two parcels. Planner Walgren
responded that staff became aware that the Constantine owned both
parcels at the time that they applied for a lot line adjustment
this last summer.
Commissioner Siegfried felt that the City should have informed the
Constantine that the City may be considering a merger several
months ago.
Commissioner Kaplan inquired if it would not have been better for
the Commission and in fairness to the applicant to have a good
legal presentation included in the staff report at the onset when
there are going to be legal issues. She stated that she would have
preferred to have background information presented to the
Commission to assist it in its decision making process. Community
Development Director Curtis stated that it was a very complicated
set of issues. All that he has heard from the applicant or the
applicant's representative was that if they could not build a
house, then the City needs to be prepared to purchase the property.
He felt that the City needed to be very cautious because this was
not an inverse condemnation situation. This was a development
proposal.
Commissioner Kaplan commented that at the original meeting, it was
stated that the property owner had to be able to place something on
the land. She did not feel that was the impression that she
perceived from the material that the City Attorney's office
provided. That was why she stated that in the course of
discussion, there were several points that were made along the way
where everyone believed that a fruit orchard could be placed on the
lot under the current zoning district because the Commission was
told that the property owners had to be able to do something that
was listed in the zoning ordinance. But that was not what City
Attorney Riback was telling the Commission.
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City Attorney Riback stated if there was a legal lot of record that
had certain zoning on it, that a reasonable use has to be allowed
on the site. A list of uses were reviewed that were not residen-
tial. If you create a legal lot of record, you need to consider
the appropriate land use. The issue in this case was whether the
City was going to approve a developable lot.
Commissioner Siegfried asked under what circumstances can the City
force the merger. City Attorney Riback responded that if the
property meets the criteria that is set forth in the Subdivision
Map Act, then a merger can be effective and can be discretionary.
The basic criteria required for a merger are that you have two
parcels and that at least one parcel has to be unimproved. At
least one parcel has to be either substandard in size or has to
have a substandard slope stability and that the lot was not legally
created at the time that it came about.
Commissioner Siegfried commented that had the Commission known this
information sih months ago, he did not know if all this debate
would have taken place. The Commission would have stated that the
answer would be that of a merger.
City Attorney Riback informed the Commission that the reason that
staff did not inform the Commission of the Notice of Intent 12 days
ago was because they did not want to leave the perception with the
applicant that the Commission would make a decision based upon the
knowledge that a merger was in the background. He knew that the
Commission would not be influenced by the knowledge of the merger
but that he did not want to give the applicant any thought of that.
Commissioner Caldwell clarified that staff was concerned that the
applicant would think that the Commission would not be "gutsy"
enough to deny the applications on its own merits because there may
be an out with a merger? City Attorney Riback responded that given
the way the applicant tended to think, that was his feeling.
Commissioner Kaplan responded that it does not make it appear as if
the Commission can make a rational decision.
Community Development Director Curtis stated that he anticipated
that this case would end up in court and that when you get into
vesting rights you need to make sure that there was fairness
involved. He was trying to make sure that the City was fair in
this case.
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