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~ MAY 22, 1996
' City Council Chambers, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue
Regular Meeting
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Chairwoman Kaplan called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call
Present: Abshire, Kaplan, Murakami, Patrick, Pierce, Siegfried
Late: None
Absent: Asfour
Staff: Community Development Director Curtis and Planner Walgren (City Attorney
Riback was not present this evening)
Pledge of Allegiance
Minutes - 5/8/96
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/ABSHIRE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MAY 8,1996
MINUTES WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS:
- Page 6, paragraph 12 amended to read: "The addition of a condition that would
stipulate that the portion of the driveway adjacent to tree #37 is to remain
undisturbed to protect thy: tree #~. "
' - Page 7, paragraph 10 amended to read: "Commissioner Murakami noted that when
you first drive into the circular driveway, you will be seeing the profile of the 13e~
gauge::: and not the front view of the garage."
THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0-1 WITH COMMISSIONER PATRICK ABSTAINING
AND COMMISSIONER ASFOUR ABSENT.
Oral Communications
No comments were offered.
Report of Posting Agenda
Pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this meeting was properly posted on
May 16, 1996.
Technical Corrections to Packet
No corrections were noted.
CONSENT CALENDAR
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PUBLIC HEARING CONSEIITT CALENDAR
1. DR-96-013 - FOLEY/R & Z DEVELOPMENT COMPANY,18929 MONTE VISTA
DRIVE; Request for Design Review approval to construct a new 5.420 sq. ft. two-
story single family residence on a vacant lot with a net site area of 40,047 sq. ft. The
property is located within the R-1-40,000 zoning district (cont. to 6/12/96 at the
request of applicant; City review deadline is 10/17/96).
2. DR-96-022 -SUN, 14360 DOUGLASS LANE; Request for Design Review approval
to construct a 5,820 sq. ft. two-story residence pursuant to Chapter 1~ of the City
Code. The application also includes an exemption request from the floor area
reduction requirement for building heights over 18 ft. The subject property is X3,178
sq. ft. and is located in an R-1-40,000 zoning district (cont. to 6/12/96 at the request
of applicant; City review deadline is 11/1/96).
CONLMISSIONERS PATRICK/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO APPROVE PUBLIC HEARING
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1 AND 2 BY MIl`TUTE ACTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 6-0 WITH COMMISSIONER ASFOUR ABSENT.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. DR-96-014 - PAYNE,13485 VILLAOAKS LN.; Request for Design Review approval
to construct a new 5,507 sq. ft., 24 ft. tall, single story residence per Chapter 15 of
the City Code. The currently vacant parcel is located within a Hillside Residential
zoning district. The parcel was originally created as Lot 18 of the Mt. Eden Estates
subdivision and has recently been increased in size from 3 acres to 15.2 net acres
through a Lot Line Adjustment with an adjacent parcel.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report. He informed the Commission that whether the
lot line adjustment is recorded or whatever action is taken on the subdivision would not
affect this proposal as the home has been designed to meet the minimum zoning standards.
Staff recommended Commission approval of the design review request.
Commissioner Pierce asked if this application was submitted to the Parks and Recreation
for its review of the improvements to the pedestrian equestrian trail easement? Planner
Walgren indicated that the pedestrian equestrian trail easement was recorded at the time
of subdivision approval. He indicated that the Parks and Recreation Commission has
recently had the opportunity to reconsider the trail easements on this property and that it
was their belief that the configuration before the Commission this evening was the one that
it felt was appropriate.
Chairwoman Kaplan requested staff clarification as to what a "Landslide I keyway was"
(page 7, condition 16.c.). Planner Walgren responded that it referred to the landslide repair
that was conducted at the subdivision level. This condition requires further investigation
prior to the issuance of building permit (completion of all geotechnical requirements prior
to the issuance of a building permit).
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Chairwoman Kaplan inquired about condition 20 which reads: "The applicant shall sign the
written statement required by section 16-75.020(d) of the City Code prior to issuance of any
permits. " Community Development Curtis indicated that the condition is required when an
applicant retains a geologist and that any permits issued utilizing the investigative reports
assumes all risks associated with it and holds the City harmless (hold harmless agreement).
Chairwoman Kaplan opened this item to public hearing at 7:37 p.m.
William Koehler, 21842 Via Regina, indicated that he resides close to the property under
discussion. He noted that the application at this time is for one home and that he has no
problem with this particular home. However-, he has a problem with the lot as it is the most
unstable lot in Saratoga noting that it was the last lot of the Mount Eden Estates
subdivisions to develop. He noted that in 1982 or 1983 Quarry Road collapsed and that a
"burrough hill" was established. The EIR prepared states that parts of the site were unstable
and that it was determined that only the top of the hill could be developed. He indicated
that if you build a house on any part of the property, the house would need to be built on
sound foundation. He requested that the City make sure that the property does not slide
during the rainy season. He stated that he appreciated that the horse trail was to be
retained.
Commissioner Siegfried informed Mr. Koehler that condition 16 requires additional geologic
studies to be completed prior to the issuance of building permits to the satisfaction of the
City.
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING AT 7:53 P.M.
Commissioner Patrick stated that given the siting of the house, she did not feel that it would
create a problem.
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/MURAKAMI MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
DR-96-014. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-0 WITH COMMISSIONER ASFOUR ABSENT.
As the issues were the same for agenda items 4 and 5, the Commission agreed to consider
them together.
Chairwoman Kaplan noted that a letter was received this afternoon from an attorney for the
Friends of Nelson Gardens. She thanked them for their concerns.
4. DR-96-019-PINK BROS.,13925 TRINITYAVE.(Lot 1); Request for Design Review
approval to construct a new 20 ft. tall 3,842 sq. ft. single story residence on Lot 1 of
the recently approved nine-lot Trinity Place subdivision. The property is located
within an R-1-12,500 zoning district.
5. DR-96-020 - PINN BROS., 20755 PONTIAC AVE. (Lot 2); Request for Design
Review approval to construct a new 22 ft. tall 3,877 sq. ft. single story residences on
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Lot 2 of the recently approved nine-lot Trinity Place subdivision. The property is
located within an R-1-12,500 zoning district.
Planner Walgren presented the staff reports for agenda items 4 and 5. Staff recommended
that both design review applications be approved.
Chairwoman Kaplan opened agenda items 4 and 5 to public hearing at 7:47 p.m.
Allan Pinn, Pinn Brothers, indicated that he would be available for questions.
Commissioner Murakami asked if both homes were facing the same direction, would they
have the same floor plan? Mr. Pinn responded that if the elevations changed it would also
require a change in the floor plan.
Chairwoman Kaplan inquired if there would be the use of a gas fireplace? Mr. Pinn
indicated that the master bedroom fire places are to be plumbed for gas and the other two
fireplaces are wood burning. Chairwoman Kaplan requested that the fireplaces be restricted
to gas or that inserts be provided that would allow clear burning.
Jeanne Williams, 20777 Trinity Avenue, indicated that she resides opposite to lot 1. She
informed the Commission that her roofline was 50 percent lower than the one proposed and
that her lot sits two to three feet lower on the north side of Trinity. She also noted that her
home was half the size in square footage as lot 1, noting that it has been described as being
compatible to that of the neighborhood.
Don Macrae, 20679 Reid Lane, indicated that the Friends of Nelson Gardens have hired
an attorney to represent it. He indicated that there is a question relating to the Williamson
Act as it relates to this parcel, noting that a letter was distributed to the Commission for its
review.
Chairwoman Kaplan informed Mr. Macrae that the City Attorney has advised the
Commission as to its appropriate review and action prior to placing this item on the agenda
this evening. She indicated that receipt of the letter has been acknowledged, noting that the
letter had no bearing on the design review hearing. She requested that Mr. Macrae restrict
his comments to design review issues.
Commissioner Siegfried asked Mr. Pinn why this particular house was proposed at 20 feet
and why both homes were not being proposed at 17 or 18 feet? Mr. Pinn responded that
the property drops considerably and that the Nelson property rises considerably. He
indicated that where the grade is measured determines the height of the house, noting that
the grade goes down on the other side of the second lot. Therefore, the roofline was lower
on the second lot.
Planner Walgren indicated that both buildings are proposed at 20 feet but that the structure
on lot 2 is cut down lower, noting that the height is measured from the natural grade.
Mr. Pinn informed the Commission that the 33 year old house across the street that recently
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sold was 2,816 square feet on a 13,000 square foot lot (the lot is considerable smaller than
these two lots.
COMMISSIONERS PATRICK/SIEGFRIED MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING AT 7:55 P.M.
Commissioner Abshire stated that he found the homes to be massive for the neighborhood
and that they seem to dominate the lot as opposed to blending in with the lot. ~ He found
them objectionable.
Commissioner Patrick stated that it was her- perception that the homes met the definition
of compatibility.
Commissioner Pierce indicated that he visited the site and that he was familiar with the
neighborhood. He felt that the design of the homes were suitable and that they would blend
in with the neighborhood as well as can be expected, noting that the existing homes were
30 year old homes.
Commissioner Siegfried noted for the record that garages are included in the total square
footage, noting that the living area proposed is 3,200 square feet, not 3,800 square feet (600
square feet is dedicated to the garage). He felt that the homes appear to be compatible,
coming in below the allowable height and the allowable square footage, noting that the lots
are larger than the existing lots. He felt that it needs to be recognized that the existing
homes were built 30 years ago and that he did not believe that the developer should be
- - forced to design the homes to look like the homes built 30 years ago.
Commissioner Murakami concurred with the comments as expressed by Commissioner
Siegfried.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. DR-96-019. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-1 WITH COMMISSIONER ABSHIRE
VOTING NO AND COMMISSIONER ASFOUR ABSENT.
COMMISSIONERS SIEGFRIED/PATRICK MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
DR-96-020. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-1 WITH COMMISSIONER ABSHIRE VOTING
NO AND COMMISSIONER ASFOUR ABSENT.
DIRECTOR'S ITEMS
Community Development Director Curtis informed the Commission that an appeal was
received for the Navico Subdivision and that an appeal was filed today for the Costa design
review application.
COMMISSIONN ITEMS
1. Mission Park Homes/Cal-Neon; 12297 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd. Review of proposed
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sign program.
Planner Walgren presented the staff report and indicated that it was staff's recommendation
that the applicant pursue a unifying element in their sign proposal (i.e.,limiting the signage
to a certain color or allowing the color to vary but limiting it to a certain letter style). Also
recommended was that the monument sign be reduced by at least two feet (reducing the
pedestal base by two feet). Staff felt that this type of sign at a four to five foot height and
proportioned in width to keep the massing consistent would be adequate to identify the
townhomes located to the back of the property. He indicated that the city's traffic engineer
has reviewed the proposal and felt that the sign needs to be setback further. If the
applicants do not want to move it back, the -sign would need to be reduced to a maximum
of three feet in order to provide reasonable line of site for vehicles entering and exiting the
property.
Commissioner Murakami noted that the strip center located down the street next to the
Argonaut Shopping Center had a sign program that was more detailed as far as colors and
how the letters were to be laid out. Planner Walgren clarified that the sign program
identified by Commissioner Murakami required a unifying element that tied the sign
program together.
Commissioner Murakami recommended that the applicant review this sign program.
Commissioner Siegfried recommended that the applicant consider reducing the sign.
• Chairwoman Kaplan recommended that the applicant review a good sign program that has
been recently approved. She asked staff how this request would fit in with the city's
proposed sign program? Community Development Director Curtis indicated that staff was
working on a sign program and that discussions have taken place regarding appropriate
signage for shopping centers. It has been determined that the use of monument signs would
be appropriate. He did not feel that the proposal was out of-line to the city's proposed sign
program.
Commissioner Siegfried asked if this sign program would allow the use of a logo? Planner
Walgren responded that logo signs would be allowed in sign programs.
Commissioner Abshire felt that the area would have a "classier" appearance if the same
color signage was used, recognizing that a company's sign logo could use their corporate
colors.
Chairwoman Kaplan asked if the General Plan document could be indexed and brought up
to date. Community Development Director Curtis indicated that the General Plan would
be reformatted within the next year.
IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION TO
APPROVE ONE COLOR (COMMISSIONER MURAKAMI FELT THAT TWO COLORS
WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE).
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Tony Mercy, representing the applicant, addressed the reason for the request for two colors
(used in the sign logo) for the freestanding sign and requested that the Commission look
favorably of the use of two colors. Regarding the monument sign, he stated that he has no
objections to moving it back five feet for visibility. Regarding the height of the sign, he
indicated that he was trying to bring the character of the project out to the _front, using the
block face to blend the retail and the residential uses. He recommended that the sign be.
limited to six feet (three feet of rock and three feet for the identifying logo).
Commissioner Siegfried noted that a company's logo allows for the use of several colors.
Commissioner Patrick stated that she would prefer the shorter sign, noting that the driveway
area was narrow. She felt that the sign proposed would block traffic.
Planner Walgren indicated that staff would support the freestanding sign with the use of a
beige background with burgundy and green lettering and that it was not the intent to limit
the freestanding sign to a single color. Staff would also recommend that the individual
tenant signs use one of the three colors identified to be the unifying element of the sign
program.
Commissioner Pierce asked if the Parker Ranch application was scheduled to be discussed
at the work session? He recommended that in the future, the work session identify the
projects that are to be discussed as well as their location.
Community Development Director Curtis stated that he did not believe that the work
sessions were working as they were intended to as the applicants were using the work
sessions to present their arguments.
COMMUI\~ICATIONS
Commissioner Murakami indicated that a letter was received from the Santa Clara Valley
Chapter of the American Institute of Architects and recommended that they be contacted
to determine if a member would be interested in serving on the Commission. He felt that
it would be beneficial to have someone with architectural expertise on the Commission.
Community Development Director Curtis indicated that he would be recommending that
someone from their organization sit in on the design review work sessions.
Written
1. City Council Minutes dated 5/1/96
Oral
Citv Council
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ADJOURNMENT -There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:18 p.m.
to 5:00 p.m., Wednesday, June 12, 1996, EOC Center, 13777 Fruitvale Ave., Saratoga, CA
Respectfully Submitted,
Irma Torrez
Minutes Clerk
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