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SARATOGA PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: Wednesday, February 13, 2002
PLACE: Council Chambers/Civic Theater, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Chairperson Barry called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Barry, Garakani, Hunter, Jackman, Kurasch and Roupe
Absent: Commissioner Zutshi
Staff: Director Tom Sullivan, Associate Planner John Livingstone and Planner Lata
Vasudevan
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – Regular Meeting of January 23, 2002.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Kurasch, seconded by Commissioner Jackman, the
regular Planning Commission minutes of January 23, 2002, were approved as
submitted.
AYES:Garakani, Jackman, Kurasch and Roupe
NOES: None
ABSENT: Zutshi
ABSTAIN: Barry and Hunter
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – Regular Meeting of January 9, 2002.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Roupe, seconded by Commissioner Jackman, the
regular Planning Commission minutes of January 9, 2002, were approved with the
following corrections:
Page 5 – Stated that in 2001, they had 18,000 riders on their trials trails.
Page 9 – added text “Chair Barry opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No.
4” just above the first comments made by Ms. Grace San Filippo.
Page 10 – Commissioner Roupe asked Mr. Camargo if the solar system will
provide electricity or radian radiant heat…
Page 11 – Said that she thinks she Ms. San Filippo will really like this house….
AYES:Barry, Garakani, Hunter, Jackman and Roupe
NOES: None
ABSENT: Zutshi
ABSTAIN: Kurasch
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Oral Communications.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA
Director Sullivan announced that, pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the agenda for this meeting
was properly posted on February 7, 2002.
CONSENT CALENDAR
There were no Consent Calendar items.
REPORT OF APPEAL RIGHTS
Director Sullivan announced that appeals are possible for any decision made on this Agenda by filing
an Appeal Application with the City Clerk within fifteen (15) calendar days of the date of the decision,
pursuant to Municipal Code 15.90.050(b).
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PUBLIC HEARING - ITEM NO. 1
Application #02-006 (366-35-019) OAK CREEK INVESTMENTS; BRIGHTER FUTURE
LEARNING CENTER (tenant), 12175 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road: Request for a Conditional Use
Permit to establish a learning center in an existing 2,626 square foot office space at the Oak Creek
Center. The office space is located in the C-V zoning district. (VASUDEVAN)
Planner Lata Vasudevan presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking a Conditional Use Permit to allow the establishment of a
learning center (Brighter Future Learning Center), which is considered an institutional facility per
the Zoning Ordinance.
• Said that this location will serve as the corporate headquarters, offering tutoring for students as well
as training for licensees of other Brighter Future Learning Center locations.
• Stated that other uses in the Oak Creek Center include a restaurant, hair salon and architectural firm.
The proposed tenant space has been vacant for approximately one year.
• Advised that staff finds that this use will benefit the Oak Creek Center and surrounding businesses
and that findings can be made to support this application.
Commissioner Roupe said there is potential that this use could intensify parking although he believes
that it most likely would not. Asked staff how they came to the conclusion that parking needs for this
use would not represent intensification from the previous use.
Planner Lata Vasudevan replied that according to Ordinance, five spaces must be provided for
employees. Added that the bulk of the use for this business is in the late afternoon, after school.
Commissioner Roupe asked for specific peak times of operation.
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Planner Lata Vasudevan replied from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m.
Commissioner Jackman added that she believes this learning center would be providing one on one
tutoring.
Chair Barry opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1 at 7:16 p.m.
Mr. Brian Kelly, Owner of Oak Creek Center, 14772 Live Oak Lane, Saratoga:
• Advised that the former tenant was a real estate office with 50 to 60 agents and that parking was
never a problem.
• Assured that parking available on site is more than adequate to meet all the needs.
• Pointed out that the bulk of the business for this learning center is after school, between the hours of
3 and 6 p.m.
• Added that there are three full-time employees on site and that the students are typically dropped off
for their tutoring sessions.
Mr. Henry Young, Applicant, Brighter Future Learning Center, 10062 Miller Avenue, Cupertino:
• Advised that their learning center is operated much like the Sylvan Learning Center and that they
provide tutoring in math and English.
• Added that they additionally have licensees who operate additional locations of the Brighter Future
Learning Center and also publish books and programs and operate a demo classroom.
Commissioner Roupe asked Mr. Young how many students are on site between the hours of 3 and 6
p.m.
Mr. Young replied that they operate three time periods every afternoon, 3:30 to 4:30 p.m., 4:30 to 5:30
p.m. and 5:30 to 6:30 p.m. The maximum number of students per class is six.
Commissioner Hunter commended Mr. Young for locating in Saratoga and said it was wonderful to
have them in town.
Mr. Young said that they like Saratoga very much. Added that they have an office in Cupertino right
now and that the parents of their Saratoga students are very happy to know that the Brighter Future
Learning Center is coming to Saratoga.
Commissioner Kurasch asked staff if this proposal has any impact on the Zoning for the site.
Planner Lata Vasudevan replied no. She added that there are Permitted and Conditionally Permitted
uses for this zoning. A learning center is a Conditionally Permitted use.
Chair Barry pointed out the traffic potential with the overlap of students leaving and arriving between
sessions.
Commissioner Roupe said that as far as he is concerned this issue of traffic is resolved. With a
maximum of six students and only three sessions, his concerns are satisfied.
Commissioner Garakani pointed out that is the potential for three classes per hour.
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Mr. Young clarified that there are three classrooms but that all three are typically not used at the same
time. While they could have up to three classes at a time, they usually only have one or two.
Commissioner Garakani asked Mr. Young what the maximum number of students is anticipated in the
future.
Mr. Young replied 30 to 40 in the future.
Commissioner Kurasch asked how many at any given time.
Mr. Young replied 18. That represents six students times three classrooms.
Commissioner Hunter asked for the ages of the students.
Mr. Young advised that the students range up to middle school. In the future, they hope to add SAT
preparation courses on weekends for high school students.
Chair Barry closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1 at 7:28 p.m.
Commissioner Roupe pointed out a discrepancy in the staff report in that the previous use on site was
not a bank but rather a real estate office.
Commissioner Jackman stated that this business would be an asset to the community. Parents in
Saratoga are education oriented and this learning center would bring people into the Oak Creek Center.
This learning center represents a good use for the Oak Creek Center and will provide a good service for
Saratoga.
Commissioner Kurasch suggested attempting to assign a maximum number of students but said that this
would be hard to do. Said that there should not be much of a problem with parking, as the provided
parking on site seems reasonable to serve all uses.
Chair Barry stated that this is not a more intensive use than the previous real estate office.
Director Sullivan pointed out Condition 3, which dictates that if this proposed use intensifies, the Use
Permit can be brought back before the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Garakani asked whether there is adequate exterior lighting for the safety of the children
in the evening hours.
Commissioner Hunter pointed out that Jake’s Pizza is in this center with a lot of evening activity so that
it can be expected that the exterior lighting is at a safe level.
Commissioner Kurasch asked Director Sullivan how intensification could be evaluated.
Director Sullivan replied that it is determined either by observation or complaint.
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Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Kurasch, seconded by Commissioner Hunter, the
Planning Commission approved Application #02-006 to allow a Conditional Use
Permit to establish a learning center at the Oak Creek Center at 12175 Saratoga-
Sunnyvale Road as proposed.
AYES:Barry, Garakani, Hunter, Jackman, Kurasch and Roupe
NOES: None
ABSENT: Zutshi
ABSTAIN: None
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PUBLIC HEARING – ITEM NO. 2
DR-01-046 & UP-01-019 (503-24-025) – LEE, 20645 Fourth Street: Request for Design Review
approval to add 283 square feet to the fourth floor and 283 square feet to the fifth floor of The Inn at
Saratoga. The Use Permit approval is necessary to allow the expansion of a conditional use. The Inn at
Saratoga is located on a 29,807 square foot parcel in the CH-1 zoning district. (VASUDEVAN)
Planner Lata Vasudevan presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking Design Review and a Use Permit to allow a 283 square foot
addition to both the fourth and fifth floors of The Inn at Saratoga.
• Described the sloping lot, which has a front elevation with the appearance of two stories and a rear
elevation with five stories.
• Added that the Design Review approval is required when more than 500 square feet are added to an
existing structure within a Commercial district.
• Advised that staff finds this proposal to be consistent in that it blends with the existing structure
with the use of matching composition roofing. The addition has a compatible bulk, height and
design and will not negatively affect the existing structure. The proposal is consistent with the
Saratoga Village Design Guidelines.
• Informed that a Use Permit is required for expansion of an existing Use Permit.
• Said that the necessary findings can be made to support this proposal. The exercise room and
business office are necessary components for the use of the hotel’s guests.
• Recommended approval and distributed a photo of The Inn.
Commissioner Roupe asked for clarification about the project number protocol.
Director Sullivan replied that the new numbering system is in place for anything beginning as of
January 1, 2002. Any files submitted prior to that date already had the older file numbering assigned.
Chair Barry opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2 at 7:36 p.m.
Dr. Lee, Owner, The Inn at Saratoga, 20 Joyce Road, Hillsborough:
• Informed that he purchased The Inn at Saratoga in April 1993 and that he has previously converted
two rooms into meeting rooms to meet the needs of today’s business guests.
• Added that to be competitive in today market, they also need an exercise room for their guests as
well as a small office equipped with computers, copiers and fast internet access.
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Commissioner Kurasch asked if there is any change in materials.
Dr. Lee replied no.
Mr. Warren B. Heid, Project Architect, 14630 Big Basin Way, Saratoga:
• Said that the materials being questioned by Commissioner Kurasch represents a firewall between
the barn and this building. This is a four-hour firewall that was required in addition to fire
sprinklers on the roof adjacent to the barn.
• Advised that The Inn was constructed on a steep hill, which is why there is a two-story appearance
on one elevation and a five-story elevation on another.
• Stated that The Inn at Saratoga has been an asset to the City of Saratoga.
• Said that they have incorporated many elements to the roofline in order to break up the façade.
• Added that a centrally located exercise room and well-equipped office at The Inn are necessary for
guest use.
• Said that the porch will remain as it is but that they came forward with an overlap that is in keeping
with the ridgeline of the roof. This addition will not detract architecturally and is minimal as far as
square footage.
• Made himself available for any questions.
Commissioner Kurasch said that the entry appears prominent and expressed concerned that the roof will
cut off the entry.
Mr. Warren B. Heid replied that this element was purposely brought forward and that it cuts the porch
roof by two feet.
Commissioner Hunter asked Mr. Heid if he designed The Inn originally.
Mr. Warren B. Heid replied yes.
Commissioner Hunter asked Mr. Heid how many years he has been an architect working in Saratoga.
Mr. Warren B. Heid replied that he has recently begun his 45th year.
Commissioner Jackman asked about the break down in occupancy.
Dr. Lee replied that 85 percent of their guests come from within the Silicon Valley and about 15 percent
are local. During the summer there are more tourists. Pointed out that since September 11th, hotel
occupancy is dramatically down and that last weekend the hotel had but five guests.
Commissioner Jackman agreed that both the exercise room and office facilities are necessary to keep
the hotel competitive.
Chair Barry asked Dr. Lee if he participates in the Village Planning Group.
Dr. Lee replied no but added that his manager works closely with the Rotary.
Chair Barry suggested that Dr. Lee consider participating.
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Chair Barry closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2 at 7:55 p.m.
Commissioner Hunter said that she is delighted to have The Inn and agrees that the exercise room and
computer room are in order for The Inn to remain competitive. Stated that she is glad to support this
request.
Commissioner Roupe said that the architecture is a nice fit and agreed with the comments made by
Commissioner Hunter. Pointed out that The Inn’s addition will look like it was always there and that
this will represent a nice addition to the community.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Hunter, seconded by Commissioner Roupe, the
Planning Commission approved DR-01-046 and UP–01-019 to add 283 square feet
to the fourth floor and 283 square feet to the fifth floor of The Inn at Saratoga on
property located at 20645 Fourth Street as proposed:
AYES:Barry, Garakani, Hunter, Jackman, Kurasch and Roupe
NOES: None
ABSENT: Zutshi
ABSTAIN: None
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PUBLIC HEARING – ITEM NO. 3
Application #02-003 (510-01-046) – NEALE, 15081 Pepper Lane: Request for Administrative
Design Review and Conditional Use Permit approval to add 683 feet to the existing detached two-car
garage. The proposed addition will create a three-car garage. The proposed addition will match the
existing design and roof pitch of the existing garage. The 22,101 square foot parcel is located in the $-
1-20,000 zoning district. (LIVINGSTONE)
Associate Planner John Livingstone presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the this request is for an Administrative Design Review to allow a 683 square foot
addition to an existing detached garage and the conversion of a two-car area into a pool house. This
addition will add three new parking stalls.
• Said that a Use Permit is necessary to allow the 15-foot height of an accessory structure. The height
is necessary to establish architectural compatibility with the main structure. This proposal is
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.
• Said that staff finds this proposal meets Design Review requirements and Use Permit findings.
• Advised that the trees will be retained with the exception of one small six-inch fruit tree that will be
removed.
• Recommended approval.
Commissioner Roupe pointed out that in the Case History within the staff report the date of December
28, 2002, should be corrected to read December 28, 2001. Asked if the impervious coverage listed
takes into account the patio and pool.
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Associate Planner John Livingstone replied yes and added that this project is in good shape as far as
impervious coverage is concerned.
Chair Barry opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3 at 8:00 p.m.
Mr. David Neale, Applicant and Owner, 15081 Pepper Lane, Saratoga:
• Declared that he and his wife love their home and the City of Saratoga and have lived here for two
and a half years.
• Commended Associate Planner John Livingstone and made himself available for any questions.
Commissioner Kurasch pointed out that the Arborist has made the recommendation to change spray
heads to drip lines near some trees and asked if Mr. Neale is prepared to make that change.
Mr. David Neale replied that his Landscape Architect will incorporate that recommendation.
Associate Planner John Livingstone said that the Commission could also add this requirement as a
specific Condition of Approval.
Commissioner Kurasch asked Mr. Neale if he would be reusing the garage doors.
Mr. David Neale replied that he did not believe so. He added that some of them are rotted but that they
will try to match the doors as best as possible.
Commissioner Roupe said that he has come to the realization that his home may well be within 500 feet
of this project site and therefore he would recuse himself from any further participation on this hearing
process.
Commissioner Roupe left the dais at 8:04 p.m. to sit in the audience.
Commissioner Hunter asked Mr. Neale if he knows when his house was built.
Mr. David Neale replied that he was not certain but believes it was constructed some time in the 1930s
or 1940s.
Commissioner Jackman said that she believes the house was constructed before 1927. Added that she
is glad that the Neales did not tear the house down or make a big addition to it.
Mr. David Neale said that it is hard to specifically date this house. He added that an old plan was found
but that it was undated.
Chair Barry closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3 at 8:06 p.m.
Commissioner Hunter said that she has been attending the Heritage Preservation Commission meetings
and a discussion was held on ensuring that garages are matched to houses. Said that she supports
matching the garage to the house in this situation and thanked the Neales for the lovely work on this
house.
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Commissioner Kurasch suggested that page 18, number 12 be included in the Conditions.
Chair Barry thanked staff for taking the initiative to offer the 15 foot height in order to match the garage
to this house.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Jackman, seconded by Commissioner Garakani, the
Planning Commission approved a Design Review and Conditional Use Permit
(Application #02-003) to allow the addition of 683 square feet to an existing
detached two-car garage on property located at 15081 Pepper Lane as proposed.
AYES:Barry, Garakani, Hunter, Jackman and Kurasch
NOES: None
ABSENT: Zutshi
ABSTAIN: Roupe
Commissioner Roupe returned to the dais at 8:08 p.m.
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PUBLIC HEARING – ITEM NO. 4
Application #02-007 (Citywide) – Resolution Amending the Zoning Requirements related to Rear
Yard Setbacks for Two Story Dwellings: The Planning Commission has requested that it consider
amending the language of the Zoning Ordinance that regulates rear yard setbacks for two story
dwellings. Currently the minimum yard requirements differ for lots that have been developed prior to
May 15, 1992 vs. vacant lot and lots created after May 15, 1992. The Ordinance also has different
setbacks for single-story and multi-story dwellings. (SULLIVAN)
Director Tom Sullivan presented the staff report as follows:
• Reminded the Commission that it had adopted a Resolution of Intent to Amend the Zoning
Ordinance regarding rear yard setbacks for two-story dwellings.
• Stated that currently there is a difference in minimum yard setbacks if a parcel was created before
1992 and after 1992.
• Pointed out that staff has prepared drawings showing existing setbacks and mandatory staggered
setbacks.
• Said that it is unclear whether Section 15.45.040 requires an addition to the setback standards for
two-story structures. There is conflict within two sections of Code.
Commissioner Roupe asked if what is being proposed this evening will address the problems and make
them go away or is there still some ambiguity to address.
Director Tom Sullivan said that he credits Staff Planner Ann Welsh for discovering ambiguity between
two sections and that staff needs an interpretation from the Commission. With that interpretation, staff
will come back with Ordinance clarifications.
Commissioner Kurasch pointed out the fact that the language seems to talk about the whole structure
and not just the second story element.
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Director Tom Sullivan said that the Design section requires that the second story setback move one foot
for every foot above 18 feet in height.
Commissioner Roupe clarified that this evening’s focus is on rear yard setback.
Director Tom Sullivan said that this is correct. He added that the Design Review Ordinance makes no
distinction between pre and post 1992. He said that there are two sides to the argument including
implementing the Design Guidelines or having a one size fits all standard.
Commissioner Roupe asked what the historic interpretation was and whether staff had looked into that
subject.
Director Tom Sullivan replied no. He stated that the letter of the law must be changed so that it is the
same as the interpretation.
Chair Barry asked if there is a difference in setback for a one story versus a one-story that is higher than
18 feet.
Director Tom Sullivan replied yes.
Chair Barry asked if this still applies if the house is moved forward on the site.
Director Tom Sullivan replied that there are different rear yard setbacks.
Commissioner Jackman asked if it matters whether there are one or two-stories or simply the overall
height.
Director Tom Sullivan replied that it does matter as there are different setbacks within the Zoning
Ordinance. At the present time, with a two-story structure, the entire structure moves back. What is
proposed is that just the second story element is moved back and not the first story.
Commissioner Kurasch said it appears that the existing Design Review standard and proposed
interpretations are the same.
Director Tom Sullivan said that per the existing Code as written the entire structure of a two-story must
be moved back from the rear property line.
Commissioner Roupe suggested not imposing that requirement on smaller lots but to do so for larger
parcels.
Director Tom Sullivan pointed out that design standard requirements are sometimes more important on
smaller lots than on larger lots.
Commissioner Kurasch asked why the rear yard setback (25 feet for a single-story and 35 feet for a two
story) is the only one that varies while the front setback for a two story does not.
Director Tom Sullivan replied that the only differentiation is for the rear yard setback for a two-story.
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Commissioner Kurasch asked if is possible to apply this requirement to the front rather than rear
setback since at most hearings the impact of the front is of more concern.
Director Tom Sullivan pointed out that multi-story concerns are generally privacy impact issues. There
is typically a standard front setback for structures. The penalty for taller structures is an increased
setback requirement. Reminded that the Residential Design Guidelines provide the direction for staff.
The Commission can decide to abide by them or tweak the Zoning Ordinance.
Commissioner Garakani suggested using the same idea for sideyard setbacks.
Director Tom Sullivan said that this is possible if the standard is changed.
Commissioner Roupe pointed out that the Commission did not give staff instruction to change sideyard
setback standards but it is not a bad idea.
Commissioner Kurasch said that the way the Ordinance is interpreted now is simple and consistent with
clear recommendations that can be interpreted.
Commissioner Roupe stated that nothing stops a flush two-story house as long as the whole structure is
brought forward to meet the minimum setback requirements.
Chair Barry opened the Public hearing for Agenda Item No. 4 at 8:40 p.m.
Mr. Warren B. Heid, Architect, 14630 Big Basin Way, Saratoga:
• Said that he appreciates what Director Sullivan is doing here.
• Agreed that privacy and bulk have been problems faced by Planning Directors, Architects and
others over the years. Said that the standard has been 25-foot rearyard setbacks for single-story
structures and 35-foot rearyard setbacks for two-story structures to get rid of bulk.
• Said that the interpretation for two story massing is more difficult to handle on a smaller lot than on
a larger lot. The standard one-foot for every foot above 18 has been imposed. Stepping in
structures above 18 feet in height is not a problem.
• Stated that most existing homes would not meet this Ordinance if it is changed.
Commissioner Kurasch asked why not apply the same interpretation for front yard setbacks as a means
to reduce bulk and mass.
Mr. Warren B. Heid replied because the issue has never come up as a problem.
Commissioner Roupe said why not give architectural flexibility and apply the standard to the single-
story element setback.
Mr. Warren B. Heid said that each project needs to be reviewed individually.
Director Tom Sullivan pointed out that the full width of the street that separates front yard to front yard.
Agreed that a 10-foot difference between a single story and two-story could be changed.
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Mr. Warren B. Heid suggested that Zoning can be changed to Planned Development in order to allow
percentages on smaller lots.
Director Tom Sullivan said that if the City had large tracts, this suggestion would be great. The City
has but a few infill lots and a majority of remodels that need to fit into existing neighborhoods.
Commissioner Kurasch said that continuity to front setbacks makes sense.
Mr. Steve Benzing, Architect, 144630 Big Basin Way, Saratoga:
• Said that he has worked with Warren B. Heid for 17 years.
• Pointed out that front elevations are driven by client concern for resale value and are rarely a
straight box.
• Expressed concern that the proposed changes in interpretation would render many existing homes
into non-conforming status that would hinder remodeling work.
• Said that the penalty for height applies for any area over 18 feet. This is how it has been
interpreted.
Chair Barry asked Mr. Benzing if he feels this interpretation could force one similar architectural style.
Mr. Steve Benzing replied yes. He added that setting back the second story gives more sunlight and
ensures privacy. He added that Saratoga already has the most restrictive design standards.
Chair Barry asked Mr. Benzing if he believes that Saratoga has less architectural variety than other
communities.
Mr. Steve Benzing replied no. He added that Saratoga has more architectural variety but does not allow
real radical design. He stated that Montalvo could not be built today. Tall and unique homes are not
allowed by today’s standards. He stated the importance in allowing a little bit of architectural freedom.
Commissioner Roupe asked Mr. Benzing if he would prefer to have the continuation of the existing
interpretation or the proposed interpretation.
Mr. Steve Benzing replied that the practice should continue to have the penalty apply to area above 18
feet as there are already enough negatives to not sell second stories. The client can choose livable space
versus exterior height. He said that he prefers the existing interpretation as it has been used over the
last 15 years.
Commissioner Kurasch pointed out that the rear setback has been 25 feet for a single-story and 35 feet
for a second story.
Mr. Warren B. Heid expressed that it is nice to have the City review its policies with new thoughts. He
added that he is accustomed to the existing interpretation.
Chair Barry closed the Public hearing for Agenda Item No. 4 at 9:07 p.m.
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Chair Barry said that Saratoga has the blessing, but also the complication, in that the City has no typical
tract style neighborhoods but rather it has much variety. She said that she would prefer to not tweak the
Ordinance at this time.
Commissioner Roupe said if this proposed interpretation is best, he is concerned about putting it off.
Chair Barry suggested imposing a time frame to come back with preliminary review of where the
conflicts are. This could include changing the definition of structure. Reiterated that she would rather
wait.
Commissioner Hunter stated that this is an interesting process and she is learning a lot and is glad that
there are two architects present this evening. Added that she is not wild about change and prefers
keeping the interpretation as it is, if it is working. Agreed with the recommendation to hold off for a
while on any changes.
Commissioner Jackman said that the Commission Subcommittee should set some deadlines.
Commissioner Hunter said that the flexibility of the interpretation is not that bad.
Commissioner Jackman cautioned that there should not be too much flexibility as staff tends to turn
over.
Commissioner Garakani asked for the pros and cons of both the existing and proposed interpretations.
Director Tom Sullivan suggested a continuance of this Public Hearing.
Chair Barry agreed that this is a good idea to allow more input before making a final decision.
Commissioner Kurasch said that the Commission hears community input at each meeting. All can
agree that the impact of a two-story structure is greater than the impact of a single-story structure.
Having a simple setback standard is the resolution.
Commissioner Garakani said the setback stays the same with both rear yard setback interpretations.
Director Tom Sullivan said that it does not stay the same. The difference would be that the whole
structure (two-story) would have an additional 10-foot setback.
Chair Barry asked if the 10-foot number is arbitrary.
Commissioner Kurasch recommended requiring the 25-foot rear setback for single-story and 35 foot
setback for two-story structures.
Chair Barry restated her support for a continuance to solicit additional input.
Director Tom Sullivan agreed that input from other practicing architects could be solicited.
Commissioner Kurasch added that input from community members would also be helpful.
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Chair Barry reopened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 4 at 9:24 p.m.
Mr. Warren B. Heid said that he concurs with the concerns expressed by Commissioner Kurasch,
whereby the 26-foot maximum height is allowed at the front setback.
Chair Barry pointed out that privacy and bulk are always major concerns when reviewing design
proposals. She added that it is important to guard against preventing flexibility and to provide an
interpretation that does not penalize architecture.
Director Sullivan stated that the Zoning Ordinance establishes a three dimensional envelope where a
structure can be designed. Proposed continuing for one month to allow the involvement of more
people.
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DIRECTOR ITEMS
There were no Director Items.
COMMISSION ITEMS
Appointment of Commissioner to Attend Village Economic Planning Committee Meetings
Chair Barry suggested appointing a Planning Commissioner to attend the Village Economic Planning
Committee meetings and proposed Commissioner Hunter for that assignment due to her depth of
knowledge on the history of buildings in Saratoga.
Commissioner Jackman said that this is a good idea.
Commissioner Hunter accepted the assignment, saying that she is happy to do so.
Planners Institute
Commissioner Hunter inquired if any Commissioners planned to attend the Annual Planners Institute
and whether the City would reimburse the costs of attendance.
Director Sullivan replied yes.
Commissioner Hunter asked for recommendations on which programs might be most beneficial. She
offered free accommodations to any interested Commissioners at a home she has available in the
Monterey area.
Commissioner Kurasch said that she would be attending the Planners Institute on Thursday.
Commissioners Subcommittees
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Commissioner Roupe asked if the discussion on basements would continue this evening.
Commissioner Jackman said that the latest revision was distributed at the last meeting and that further
discussion would occur at the next meeting. Upon further reflection, she advised that she will actually
not be in attendance at the next meeting on February 27th.
Director Sullivan suggested dedicating a full meeting in March, either the 12th or 27th, to an in-depth
discussion of Subcommittee reports as well as the continuation of the rear yard setback interpretation.
That meeting could have a minimum of specific development review.
Commissioner Kurasch suggested splitting up those two topics at separate meetings.
COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Communication Items.
ADJOURNMENT TO NEXT MEETING
Chair Barry adjourned the meeting at 9:42 p.m. to the next regular meeting set for Wednesday,
February 27, 2002, to begin at 7 p.m.
MINUTES PREPARED AND SUBMITTED BY:
Corinne A. Shinn, Minutes Clerk