HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-24-2006 Traffic Safety Commission AgendaCITY OF SARATOGA
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Special Meeting AGENDA
DATE: August 24, 2006
TIME: 6:30 PM
LOCATION: Senior Center
Adult Day Care Room
19655 Allendale Avenue, Saratoga, CA 95070
Call to Order
Roll Call: Ballingall, Biester, Bustamante, Guichard, and Kane
Report on Posting of the Agenda: Pursuant to Government Code Section 54954.2, the agenda for this
meeting was properly posted on August 18, 2006.
Accept Agenda Items: No additional items may be added pursuant to Government Code Section
54954.2.
Approval of Draft Minutes
Draft Traffic Safety Commission Minutes for August 10, 2006
Oral &t Written Communication
Any member of the public may address the Commission about any matter not on the agenda for this
meeting for up to three minutes. Commissioners may not comment on the matter but may choose to place the topic
on a future agenda
Old Business
1. Traffic Matrix # 111
Issue: Discuss implementation of an alternative traffic calming solution on Pierce Road
Action: TSC will review and make recommendation
New Business
None
Announcements by Commissioners and Staff
Adjournment to Next Regular Meeting
Thursday, November 9, 2006
In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, if you are a disabled person and you need a disability -
related modification or accommodation to participate in this meeting, please contact the City Clerk's Office at
408.868.1269 or ctclerk@saratoga.ca.us Requests must be made as early as possible and at least one full business
day before the start of the meeting.
Certificate of Posting of Agenda:
I, Kristin Borel, Administrative Analyst for the City of Saratoga, declare that the foregoing agenda for the meeting
of the Traffic Safety Commission of the City of Saratoga was posted on July 13, 2006, at the office of the City of
Saratoga, 13777 Fruitvale Ave., Saratoga, CA 95070 and was available for public review at that location. The agenda
is also available on the City's website at www.saratoga.ca.us.
CITY OF SARATOGA
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION
Draft Action Minutes
DATE: August 10, 2006
TIME: 6:30 PM
LOCATION: Saratoga Senior Center
Adult Day Care Room
19655 Allendale, Saratoga, CA 95070
Call to Order - Meeting called to order at 6:35 p.m.
Roll Call: Ballingall, Biester, Bustamante, Kane, Guichard
Absent: Commissioners Biester and Kane
Staff: Director Cherbone, Analyst Borel and Traffic Engineer Rashid
Report on Posting of the Agenda: Pursuant to Government Code Section 54954.2, the agenda for this
meeting was properly posted on August 4, 2006. - Borel Reports on Posting
Accept Agenda Items: No additional items may be added pursuant to Government Code Section
54954.2. - No Additions
Oral & Written Communication
Any member of the public may address the Commission about any matter not on the agenda for this
meeting for up to three minutes. Commissioners may not comment on the matter but may choose to place the topic
on a future agenda. - 3 Speakers
Approval of Draft Minutes
Draft Traffic Safety Commission Minutes for February 9, 2006 - Approved 3 -0
Draft Traffic Safety Commission Minutes for July 20, 2006 - Approved 3 -0
Old Business
1. Traffic Matrix #96 - Pam Roper
Issue: Review implementation of Speed Lumps on Three Oaks Way
Action: TSC will review and make recommendation if necessary
MOTION: Have Traffic Engineer take new speed data after September 15`h and report
results at the November 9`h meeting. APPROVED 3 -0
2. Removal of Pierce Road speed bumps until an alternate solution is determined at the August 24, 2006
TSC meeting
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Remove center set of bumps, place radar trailer in both directions, take speed
data, have regular directed enforcement, and consider feedback from neighbors.
APPROVED 3 -0
New Business
3. Traffic Matrix # 150- Nancy Kirk
Issue: Requests signal or 4 way stop at Big Basin and 4th Street
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Take no action at this time, warrents not met. APPROVED 3 -0
4. Traffic Matrix # 151- Ramin Naimi
Issue: Requests Wardell be closed to vehicles and open only to pedestrian traffic
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Direct staff to look at grant funding for a pedestrian bridge, and place on a future
CIP list. Direct enforcement at Carniel and Wardell. APPROVED 3 -0
5.. Traffic Matrix # 152- Christy Koz
Issue: Speeding on Purdue Lane
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Place a white stripe buffer zone on corner with reflectors as designed by the
Traffic Engineer. APPROVED 3 -0
6. Traffic Matrix # 153 - Ursula Anderson
Issue: Requests return of left turn pocket for drivers making left hand turn from Kirkmont onto
Saratoga - Sunnyvale Road
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Take no action at this time. APPROVED 3 -0
7. Traffic Matrix # 155 - Scott Whitman
Issue: Several traffic concerns around Saratoga High School
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Take no action at this time. Explain previous actions of TSC to petitioner.
APPROVED 3 -0
8. Traffic Matrix # 162 - Paul Ginouves
Issue: Speeding on 6th Street
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Direct enforcement on 6`h Est St. Charles, install speed limit signs on 6`h, and take
new speed data in October and report back at November 9th meeting. APPROVED 3 -0
9. Traffic Matrix # 161- Mehdi Eslami
Issue: Speeding on Martha near Kevin
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Place striping and reflectors on corner of Kevin and Martha. APPROVED 3 -0
11. Traffic Matrix # 156 - Lynn & Joe Pinto
Issue: Speeding on Glen Brae Drive between Scotland and Beaumont
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Traffic Engineer will design channels in several locations to slow traffic, and City
will notify neighbors. APPROVED 3 -0
12. Traffic Matrix # 163 - Bob Wallace
Issue: Speeding at curve on Pierce Road at Foothill Lane
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: Take no action at this time. Wait until August 24`h Pierce Road speed bump
meeting. APPROVED 3 -0
MOTION • To review the remainingitems (Items 13 -17) as a single topic and review together.
APPROVED 3 -0
13, Traffic Matrix # 154 - Brian Frank, Dorothy Terrill .
Issue: Speeding on Pierce Road between Surry & Houston. Requests "Children at Play" signs.
Action: TSC will make recommendation
14. Traffic Matrix # 157 - KiranBhatia
Issue: Would like mirror placed on pole to assist with making a left on blind curve on Pierce
Action: TSC will make recommendation .
15. Traffic Matrix # 158 - Joe Bagliere
Issue: Speeding Pierce between Pike and Sarahills on Pierce, and request guardrail at creek
crossing
Action: TSC will make recommendation
16. Traffic Matrix # 160 - Dan Eastman
Issue: Speeding on Pierce Road between Pike and Vista Regina
Action: TSC will make recommendation
17. Traffic Matrix # 159 - Donna Guldimann, Mary Feinstein
Issue: Curves on Pierce Road at bridge creek crossings are dangerous due to speeding and narrow
lanes
Action: TSC will make recommendation
MOTION: (Items 13 -17) Direct staff to draft a letter to the Post Office recommending that
mailboxes be placed on both sides of the road to reduce crossings. APPROVED 3 -0
MOTION: (Items 13 -17) Direct Traffic Engineer to develop a comprehensive analysis of all of
Pierce Road and to present the analysis at the November 9 meeting. APPROVED 3 -0
Announcements by Commissioners and Staff
None
Adjournment at 10:25 p.m. to the Special Meeting
Thursday, August 24, 2006
In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, if you are a disabled person and you need a disability -
related modification or accommodation to participate in this meeting, please contact the City Clerk's Office at
408.868.1269 or ctclerk @sarato ag ca.us Requests must be made as early as possible and at least one full business
day before the start of the meeting.
Certificate of Posting of Agenda:
I, Kristin Borel, Administrative Analyst for the City of Saratoga, declare that the foregoing agenda for the meeting
of the Traffic Safety Commission of the City of Saratoga was posted on August 4, 2006, at the office of the City of
Saratoga, 13777 Fruitvale Ave., Saratoga, CA 95070 and was available for public review at that location. The agenda
is also available on the City's website at www.saratoga.ca.us.
Kristin Borel
From: yvonne21 @comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:30 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: speed bumps. humps, lumps
Dear Kristen,
My husband and I would like to voice our objection to the speed bumps on Pierce Road. While removing the
middle one has helped, we still find it very hateful to have to navigate the bumps. It is very jarring, and if you
are not feeling well it is even worse. One really needs to practically stop if one doesn't want to get jarred too
much, as 15 mph is still too fast. They are most objectionable to us. While we understand the desire to control
the speed on Pierce Road (as well as elsewhere), hopefully more police patrols and the speed monitors that you
have now installed will help. I also believe that traffic has probably been somewhat diverted to other side
streets by people, to avoid the bumps.
We have lived in Saratoga, on Pike Road, for the last 30 years. While recognizing that Pierce Road has become
extremely busy, it was the City that approved all the housing in the hills and greatly increased the density, so
this had to be the outcome. However, subjecting all of the residents of this community and area to these bumps
I think is unfair.
Sincerely,
John and Yvonne Zavoshy
Pike Road, Saratoga
' Kristin Borel
From: bcheng @saratoga.ca. us
;ent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:41 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: FW: Question Comment from the Public
- - - -- Original Message---- -
From: [mailto:meggieparis @yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:21 PM
To: bcheng @saratoga.ca.us
Subject: Question Comment from the Public
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(meggieparis @yahoo.com) on Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 18:21:18
--------------------------------------------------------------------- - - - - --
Name: mary paris
telephone#: 356 -7935
Type: Request
.dmin: checkbox
Comments /Questions: I use Pierce road every day, as do my friends, sometimes with a horse trailer. The speed
bumps are unnecessary, overkill for that road and dangerous to horses being hauled. Also I have observed
people speeding up between the bumps, which surely makes a more dangerous condition for residents.
Removal of the middle bump is an improvement, but all should be removed. The electronic reminder to slow
down is helpful.
submit: Submit Form
This is a response for the Transportation Committee dealing with the traffic issues on Pierce
Road.
We live off of Pierce Rd. between Pike Rd and Mt. Eden Rd. We feel that there are issues to be
dealt with that seem to us to be of more concern than the speed of traffic on the flat section of
Pierce near Saratoga — Sunnyvale Rd. The section that we feel is most dangerous is between
Pike Rd and Old Oak Way. It is narrow, curvey, shady, and has poor visibility. Between Old Oak
Way and the new bridge there are a couple of telephone poles very close to the road which limits
the space even more when you are being squeezed by a truck.
Our concern is that with the unmonitored growth of new homes and remodels in the hills off of
Pierce Rd. there is truck traffic at a rate that the road was never built to handle. Large delivery
trucks and cement trucks are common all day long.
The bridge has been widened ( at Sara Hills Rd) , which is in the middle of the area mentioned in
paragraph one as our section of concern. Before and after the bridge are curves which require
drivers to slow down, but with the width at the bridge they have a false sense of road width.
Trucks, especially, go into the curves too fast and over the mid -line.
One possible solution would be to improve and open Quarry Road, which could then connect to
Mt. Eden Road. This would be a more direct route for anyone going further up Mt. Eden Road,
and lessen the volume on Pierce Rd.
We hope that you address the dangers on Pierce Rd that seem to be us more serious than on the
flat section. For the record, we are very much opposed to the speed bumps, which slows the
whole section down to 20 mph.
Donna Guldimann
21891 Via Regina
Saratoga
August 16, 2006
Till Guldimann
21891 Via Regina
Saratoga
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Kristin Borel
From: Ann Copenhagen [acopenhagen @yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:42 PM
To: Kristin Bore]; Norm Kline; Aileen Kao; Ann Waltonsmith; Kathleen King; Nick Streit
Subject: Displeasure with Speed Bumps
Saratoga City Council
Saratoga Traffic Safety Commission
The decision to install the speed lumps which impact the daily lives of hundreds of families living up
and off Pierce Road was never presented to the bulk of those residents. I understand that an arbitrary
number of homes were initially notified. I was not one of them and neither were my neighbors. Once
installed and decidedly disliked, you continued to muffle the opinions of those residents. Prior to the
meeting held August 10th my home received a personal phone call from a city staffer informing me that
the Pierce Road speed lump issue would be discussed at the August 24th meeting. Therefore attendance
on the 10th would not be necessary. Apparently, 80 or so such phone calls were made by the city staff.
The speed lumps were in fact discussed and included as numerous issues on the agenda. This obvious
misinformation, out and out deception, was directly responsible for the lessened attendance at the
meeting on the 10th. Not only were the opinions of residents not heard, a count of those for the lumps
and those against, was apparently taken. The actions of a city employee caused the complete distortion
of that count. I feel personally deceived! I am sickened that our governmental process is controlled and
distorted in such a flagrant manner.
I call on the city council to look into the deceptive practices of their office and correct it!
Issues regarding the speed lumps themselves:
The posted speed limit on lower Pierce is 30 MPH. That is the maximum safe speed limit. The speed
lumps installed display a posted speed of 15 MPH. If the safe speed is 30 MPH then to impede this is
not logical. If 30 MPH is too fast then lower the limit and enforce it. The current lumps force many
drivers to slow to a crawl in order to clear the lumps. They are unable to near the limit while going over
the lumps.
I can't help but wonder if this is a case of the squeaky wheel..... Lower Pierce Road residents are unhappy
that they live on a busy street. Perhaps they were under the false impression that they live on a quiet
country road. Pierce Road is in fact a major thoroughfare connecting North Saratoga to a County Park, a
Concert Venue, wineries, riding stables, bike routes, and numerous houses. Saratoga allowed the
development of the homes and the concert venue after doing impact reports, so these issues should not
be a surprise. When you buy a home bordering a freeway you will hear the noise, when you live on a
busy street you will live with the traffic. I do not feel that the wishes of the few should dictate the lives
of the majority.
Emergency vehicles now have impeded access to Pierce Road. If and when emergency assistance is
needed beyond the speed lumps that access needs the ability to reach their destination as quickly as
possible. If one of my loved ones needs assistance I know that's what I would expect. I would like to
relay a personal experience, recently when an injured horse rider was transported by ambulance down
Pierce Road the ambulance needed to slow to nearly a stop to safely travel over the bumps. That's not
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acceptable.
My husband spoke to a sheriff officer recently who relayed his dislike for the lumps, they're forced to
slow down greatly to cross the lumps and therefore response to emergencies is slower. That is not
acceptable.
Part of the rural atmosphere of living on Pierce Road is the horses and trails still maintained in the hills.
Access to the stables requires transportation of the horses to the stables. Driving over the bumps with a
horse trailer is not safe. That is not acceptable.
If speed on Pierce Road is the issue, enforce the posted limit. Also, as residents, we can slow traffic
ourselves. I drive the speed limit, as cars come up behind me they too will follow the limit by default.
I have been insulted by the coverage of this issue in the media of late. Those opposed to the lumps are
portrayed as horn honking, fist waving, speeders. I would rather the discussion be among logical,
intelligent neighbors that see a problem and are willing to address the issue openly to arrive at a solution
that is acceptable to all. The process followed thus far has neither been open, fair or unbiased. The
solution, thus far, is not reasonable, safe or acceptable.
I understand that the traffic safety commission is a volunteer committee but I hope that they feel they
need to answer to the majority of residents in Saratoga not only the loudest. If they do not, I hope the
elected city council members that placed this commission take responsibility for their actions.
Remove the speed lumps and enforce the posted limits.
Ann Copenhagen
14430 Pike Road
48 years on Pierce
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Kristin Borel
From: Ann Burris [a_burris @sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:54 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: RE: Pierce Rd .speed bumps
Kristin,
The speed lump between our driveways was removed early this morning and the noise level has returned
to its norm. Please convey our appreciation to the commission for hearing and addressing our concerns.
Ann Burris
Kristin Borel <kborel@saratoga. ca. us> wrote:
Ann,
Contact me after the 24th and I can give you an update.
I will also post the results on the City's website at www.saratoga.ca.us - look under
Commissions then Traffic Safety.
Kristin
From: Ann Burris [mailto:a_burris @sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:50 AM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: RE: Pierce Rd speed bumps
Kristin,
Thank you for informing us of the upcoming meeting. I am so glad to hear this process is
moving forward. We are unable to attend. Will residents be notified of the alternate plan?
Ann
Kristin Borel 4rborel@saratoga. ca. us> wrote:
Ann,
I am writing to everyone who contacted me about the Pierce Road Speed Bumps to tell them
that the Traffic Safety Commission will be meeting on August 24th, at 6:30 pm in the Senior
Center, Adult Day Care Room at 19655 Allendale, to make a decision about an alternative
traffic calming option for Pierce Road.
I am sorry if this is redundant and you already received a notice in the mail or a voice mail
message.
Sincerely,
Kristin Borel
Public Works Analyst
8/17/2006
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Kristin Borel
From: Cathleen Boyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:43 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: FW: Speed Lumps on a throughway
From: JUDYMISME @aol.com [mailto:JUDYMISME @aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:41 PM
To: Nick Streit; Ann Waltonsmith; Kathleen King; Norm Kline; Aileen Kao; Dave Anderson; Cathleen Boyer
Subject: Speed Lumps on a throughway
I don't believe that I've seen any council members at the special "speed Lump" meetings. Too bad.
You've been missing a group of Saratoga residents growing more and more irate at this latest waste
of money. It always seems that "ye who yells loudest" gets the best service. Well, I am sick and tired
of going to city meeting the make over 80 telephone calls prior to the meeting on Aug. 10 - telling
these people that the "speed lumps" and Pierce Road who not be discussed. When in fact, that was
the major issue of the evening. My family and I only went to see what this council would pull next.
We found out.
This next meeting for Aug. 24th had better be held outside. It's the only way you are going to have enough
room for the rest of the residents off of Pierce Road. This meeting will hopefully show you people the
actual count of hands from those residents STRONGLY OPPOSED to the 15 MPH Lumps on a 30 MPH
throughway.
It seems that the majority of the complaints are coming from those residents wishing that their homes
were located on a Court or a No Through Road. Nobody is opposed to slowing down the speeders, but
this is not the answer. Instead of wasting $3000 per lump, why don't we just have enough SPEED LIMIT
signs up and either Peace Officers OK'd to issue speeding tickets or use the money for the Sheriffs department
to stay there for a while. On top of making money on the speeders to use toward the Sheriff, we can get
a TRUE statistic on the numbers of speeders. Instead of each side making up their own numbers.
Judy Miller
40+ year resident
Pike Road
iudymisme cD ol.com
8/15/2006
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Kristin Borel
From: ddoore @comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:51 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: Pierce Road
Hi,
I don't live on Pierce Road but I occasionally drive it and I used to enjoy walking along parts of it. Over the years
the stretch where the speed bumps were installed is dangerous because of the speeding cars and number of
construction trucks. I walk a lot and I don't know how people walk along Pierce Road anymore. I know people
who live along Pierce Road and the traffic has grown over the last 20 years to where I don't think that I would
want to live on Pierce Road. It's too bad that the community can't be more understanding of the safety issue
along Pierce Road. It has been shocking to me to read the Saratoga News articles about the speed bumps and
the righteous self - absorbness of people. I would hope that the city could find a solution to the safety hazards on
Pierce Road before more pets, children, teenage drivers, walkers, runners, etc. are injured or killed. I also hope
that persistent horn honking isn't the way decisions are made in Saratoga.
Thanks for listening, Merrily Doore
8/15/2006
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Kristin Borel
From: nancyjow [nancyjow @sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: Kristin Borel
Cc: julie @matrixcable.com; Coleen Wagner
Subject: [SPAM EMAIL] Pierce Rd.
Importance: Low
Hi Kristin;
Thank you and the Traffic Safety Commission for a very productive meeting last evening.
I just drove the bumps again and my average speed was between 12 and 14 mph. The posted speed is 15
mph. This seems very reasonable to me and not a significant delay. Anyone going the speed limit of 30
should have no problem slowing to the posted 'lump speed" of 15.. There should be no intimidation from
following traffic.
Your advice would be appreciated on another issue related to the lumps.' We like the current flow of Pierce
Rd. (RE: Proposed changes for the intersection of Pierce & Saratoga Sunnyvale Rd.)
1) Currently traffic must slow and yield to traffic from stop light. This is Good. Eye contact must be made. An
"educational" positive experience.
2) Up hill grade provides somewhat of a "slowing cautious" trend for entering Pierce Rd. "Educational' and
promoting a learning trend.
3) Up hill grade promotes the "rural' feeling.
4) A flat, direct, straight shot up Pierce Rd. could possibly promote "accelerating" on Pierce. Our "tentative"
feeling is that we like the current grade, yield and slow down that the existing road provides. We would greatly
appreciate the repair of the "pot holes" and leaving Pierce as-is. .
Now, if we are to address this issue, what is the proper procedure? Yesterday the surveyors were measuring all
areas. We hope it is not too late.
Thank you,
Nancy & Dave Walb
8/14/2006
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Kristin Borel
From: Jon Witkin [jon @westernstatesglass.com]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 1:27 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Cc: 'Dave Stellman'; 'Tom Copenhagen'
Subject: RE: [SPAM EMAIL] PEIRCE ROAD SPEED BUMPS
Kristin
I am the head of the Pike Road Homeowners association. I will be unable to attend the meeting going to a
family wedding on the east coast. We have thirty five homeowners that will be represented by Tom Copenhagen.
Most I know are upset with the new speed bumps and just hope we can correct the situation before somebody
gets hurt. I saw an older person actually stop before each bump yesterday which could be very dangerous.
Another car was riding there bumper and tailgating. The good old radar way has worked just fine for many years.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Jon
From: Kristin Borel [mailto:kborel @saratoga.ca.us]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:39 PM
To: jon @westernstatesglass.com
Subject: RE: [SPAM EMAIL] PEIRCE ROAD SPEED BUMPS
Jon,
Sorry I didn't get back to you last Thursday, I gave your email along with others to the Traffic Safety
Commission. They will be making a decision about the speed bumps at their August 24th meeting at
6:30 pm in the Senior Center at 19566 Allendale Avenue.
Sincerely,
Kristin Borel
Public Works Analyst
408 - 868 -1258
From: Jon Witkin [mailto :jon @westernstatesgiass.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:18 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Cc: 'Dave Stellman'
Subject: [SPAM EMAIL] PEIRCE ROAD SPEED BUMPS
Importance: Low
Kristen
Our new speed bumps are a tremendous waste of time. They are also prematurely damaging our vehicles.
have lived off pierce road on pike road for 23 years. I and my family, 4 votes all hate the speed bumps. Please
use our votes to get rid of them. They are also bad fueng shui for us. Just like the gateway was for others. The
frustration with people speeding and slowing is causing traffic nightmares. I have never before witnessed such
road rage on pierce road. Also people are veering to the sides and road center to get just one wheel on the bump
while oncoming traffic is veering .Thanks in advance for anything you can do for us. A frustrated neighbor.
Jon Witkin
Cell 408- 640 -0044
8/14/2006
Kristin Borel
From:
John E. Keenan [john @ald.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:04 PM
To:
Kristin Borel
Subject:
Re: Speed Bumps on Pierce Rd.
Kristin,
Thank you for the notice. I will try to be there. If you are counting noses, I still remain adamantly opposed to
speed bumps. A couple of thoughts occurred to me after the meeting.
1) If you look at the houses on the north side of Prospect Rd., the configuration of their driveways, yards and
houses are not much different from Pierce Rd and yet the speed limit is 40. Why is 40 OK there and so
dangerous on Pierce.
2) The traffic engineer said that accident history on Pierce is no different than anywhere else and yet many of
the locals testified about 'how dangerous' it was. That facts don't bear that out. The chairman of the PSC said
they were being 'pro active' in addressing the safety issue. Is that political speak for 'we want to do it even
though the evidence isn't there'?
3) When these concerned folks bought their houses on Pierce, what was the average speed? I've lived on Mt.
Eden for 30 years and haven't noticed any significant difference in speed over those years. So if it was so
dangerous then, why did they buy there?
Thanks for listening to me rant and rave.
john
Kristin Borel wrote:
> John,
> I am writing to everyone who contacted me about the Pierce Road Speed
> Bumps to tell them that the Traffic Safety Commission will be meeting
> on August 24th, at 6:30 pm in the Senior Center, Adult Day Care Room
> at
> 19655 Allendale, to make a decision about an alternative traffic
> calming option for Pierce Road.
> I am sorry if this is redundant and you already received a notice in
> the mail or a voice mail message.
> Sincerely,
> Kristin Borel
> Public Works Analyst
> 408 - 868 -1258
> - - - -- Original Message---- -
> From: John E. Keenan [mailto :john @ald.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 20061:23 PM
> To: Kristin Borel
> Cc: John Cherbone; Dave Anderson
> Subject: RE: Speed Bumps on Pierce Rd.
August 11, 2006
City of Saratoga
Traffic Safety Commission
Regarding the Speed Bumps Recently Installed on Pierce Road:
At the August 10 meeting of the TSC the lead item on the agenda was the speed bumps
recently installed on Pierce Road. In light of the problems they have created including
extreme animosity between neighbors, the decision was made to remove the center bump
of the three only and install radar speed signs. Random enforcement by a traffic officer is
also to be implemented.
I have a couple of issues with this.
1. From feedback I am receiving from upper Pierce Road residents, they were either not
made aware of this meeting or were told when they inquired about it that the speed bump
issue would not be addressed until the August 24 meeting and that they need not attend.
This resulted in a high turnout in bump supporters who were aware this would be
discussed, and a very low turnout of anyone opposed. When a show of hands was
requested by the TSC for a count of for / against the bumps, it was about 20 to one for
them. I believe this was considered by the TSC when they made their decision to leave
two thirds of the bumps in place, and does not accurately reflect the wishes of the
majority or Pierce Road Residents.
2. Almost everyone, including the bump supporters, agree's that these bumps are too
abrupt. This seems to be most of the problem. Anyone who has traveled over the bumps
at 15 to 30 mph, the posted speed limit, knows what I'm talking about; it tears your car
apart. Consequently most people must slow almost to a stop to cross them, which either
makes them mad enough to honk or yell their displeasure or makes the person behind get
mad and start honking at them or pass them on the left! We see this day and night. This
can't be any safer than people going the 11 mph over the limit the data shows.
I respectfully request that until a viable traffic calming alternative can be found, all three
of the abrupt temporary speed bumps be removed and replaced with the radar and
enforcement. I believe that after living with these bumps for a couple of months all
Pierce Road residents would make quite an effort to stay within the speed limit, and I
think that this in the only thing that is going to stop the current noise campaign against
the lower Pierce Road residents. Since speed monitoring to gather data was also going to
be a part of the radar speed sign installation, this data could be reviewed at the the August
24- meeting to see if further action is even warranted.
Dave Stellman
42 Year Resident
Speed Bump #3
August 11, 2006
City of Saratoga
Re: Traffic Safety Issues on Pierce Road
To All,
We are sending this letter to express our displeasure of the Traffic Safety Commission
actions regarding the new "Speed Lumps" installed on Pierce Road.
The specific item that is causing this complaint is the action by the City which prevented
a fair representation of the Pierce Road residents to be actively involved in the meetings
and discussion of this issue.
The initial problem was the notification of the Traffic Safety meetings and the installation
of the "Speed Lumps" was only sent to the first 200 residents on Pierce Road (as per
information provided at the Traffic Safety meeting on 7/27/06). This does not represent
all of Pierce Road, only the location of the people who are complaining the most to the
City.
The second problem was that we received a phone call on 8/9/06 from an assistant to
Kristin Borel stating that we did not have to attend the Traffic Safety Commission
meeting on 8/10 because the issues regarding Pierce Road would not be discussed, and
that we should attend the 8/24 meeting instead. This same phone call was received by
our neighbors who attended the meeting anyway only to discover that Pierce Road issues
were the primary discussions of the meeting and the majority of people attending were
the same people who had started the complaints.
The Traffic Safety commission has said that they will make a recommendation as to the
issues raised about the "speed lumps" at the 8/24 meeting.
My concern is that if we (and an unknown number of other Pierce Road residents) were
discouraged by the City to attend a meeting that would be critical for the public input
about the lumps, we will not have received the fair treatment afforded to a small minority
of Pierce Road residents. The decision of the Traffic Safety commission will affect ALL
of the Pierce Road residents.
We request that the decisions of the Traffic Safety commission related to Pierce Road be
questioned and reviewed for fairness, implementation for the benefit of ALL Pierce Road
residents, and the removal of the "speed lumps" until this issue is resolved.
Sincerely,
Tom Copenhagen
14430 Pike Road
20 year resident
408 - 741 -0345
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Kristin Borel
From: nancyjow [nancyjow @sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:14 AM
To: Kristin Borel
Cc: julie @matrixcable.com; Coleen Wagner
Subject: [SPAM EMAIL] Pierce Rd.
Importance: Low
Hi Kristin;
Thank you and the Traffic Safety Commission for a very productive meeting last evening.
I just drove the bumps again and my average speed was between 12 and 14 mph. The posted speed is 15
mph. This seems very reasonable tome and not a significant delay. Anyone going the speed limit of 30
should have no problem slowing to the posted "lump speed" of 15. There should be no intimidation from
following traffic.
Your advice would be appreciated on another issue related to the lumps. We like the current flow of Pierce
Rd. (RE: Proposed changes for the intersection of Pierce & Saratoga Sunnyvale Rd.)
1) Currently traffic must slow and yield to traffic from stop light. This is Good. Eye contact must be made. An
"educational" positive experience.
2) Up hill grade provides somewhat of a "slowing cautious" trend for entering Pierce Rd. "Educational" and
promoting a learning trend.
3) Up hill grade promotes the "rural" feeling.
4) A flat, direct, straight shot up Pierce Rd. could possibly promote "accelerating" on Pierce. Our "tentative"
feeling is that we like the current grade, yield and slow down that the existing road provides. We would greatly
appreciate the repair of the "pot holes" and leaving Pierce as is.
Now, if we are to address this issue, what is the proper procedure? Yesterday the surveyors were measuring all
areas. We hope it is not too late.
Thank you,
Nancy & Dave Walb
8/14/2006
Kristin Borel
From: Richards, Gary [GRichards @mercurynews.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:40 AM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: FW: Pierce Road update
Hi Kristin. Anything new on this?
Gary Richards
San Jose Mercury News
Roadshow line (920 -5335)
direct line: 920 -5037
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From: Jeannie Hobbs [mailto:hpjeannie @yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 200611:00 AM
To: Gary Richards
Subject: Pierce Road update
The City of Saratoga Traffic Safety Commission will
hold its regular meeting on August 10. On the
publicly posted agenda is the item "Removal of Pierce
Road speed bumps until an alternate solution is
determined." Hooray! But wait ... there are five (5)
separate additional agenda items about speeding on
Pierce, put there presumably by residents. Oh,
no ... might there be MORE lumps to come?
But wait again ... in addition to the August 10 meeting,
they are having another "special" TSC meeting on
August 24 to discuss "alternative traffic calming
solutions" for Pierce Road. Both meetings will be at
6:30pm at the Saratoga Senior Center, 19655 Allendale
Avenue, near West Valley College.
The usual solution to 85% of the traffic going faster
than 15% over the posted speed limit (true as measured
on that section of Pierce) is to raise the limit so
the police can then use radar to catch speeders. Why
is this not feasible on Pierce? In fact, it would
seem that a few occasional random prowl cars would be
a fine "traffic calmer" even without radar, but during
my several years of commuting that route I have seen
them on Pierce only twice. How could the county
overlook this tempting source of revenue? Could it be
that these selfsame residents who complain of speeders
re afraid of being caught themselves?
At least the TSC is asking the residents to propose
solutions, since at the last special meeting it was
revealed that fewer than 15% of the vehicles on Pierce
came off Highway 9, proving that it's the area's own
residents (and their associated service personnel) who
are the problem. I also noted that the room was full
of residents who disliked the lumps and had not been
notified of their proposed installation, the city
having sent only 220 notices out and overlooking the
thousand or so other households using Pierce to exit
the neighborhood.
Me, I'm just happy that the formerly horrid Redwood
Gulch and Stevens Canyon Road have been repaved so
beautifully (kudos!). Despite watching out for that
route's cement trucks and stray kittens and
bicyclists, I now have a comfortable workaround to
having to go over the lumps on Pierce or clear down
through the "village" to get to Cupertino to work.
-)onna Hobbs
440 Alto Drive
Boulder Creek, CA 95006
408 - 447 -4109 (M -W)
831 - 338 -9165
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Kristin Borel
From: David K. Trager M.D. [dtrager @ramblc.com]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:54 AM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: RE: Pierce Rd Speed bumps
Hi Kristin,
Thanks for your emails and calls informing us about the meetings.
I wanted to say thanks to the Traffic Commission for a thoughtful, balanced meeting last week. I think that
Commissioner Balligall summed it up nicely, that this process has been an education on many levels. The next
step, and the studies that emerge from it, will also be informative and educational for all of us.
I hope that we do not introduce too many variables at once when we remove the center hump. Knowing
exactly when the traffic enforcement officer is present, the radar trailer, or both is imperative to understanding
the data.
Concert traffic will also influence the tube data, as it tends to be extremely heavy but slow because of back -up
from the traffic light at Saratoga Sunnyvale. We will have to work with the officers to determine when they are
actually in the field; as I am sure that scheduled times will vary depending on their needs. It may be useful to
coordinate with observations from the neighbors, such as Julie Daniels, to determine when the police and
trailers are present.
Again, thanks to you and the Commission for helping us through a challenging but important process. We look
forward to continuing to work with you in the next step!
Sincerely,
David Trager
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From: Kristin Borel [mailto:kborel @saratoga.ca.us]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 5:13 PM
To: dtrager@ramblc.com
Subject: RE: Pierce Rd Speed bumps
David,
Thank you for your input. The Traffic Safety Commission will be meeting on August 24th, at 6:30 pm in the
Senior Center at 19655 Allendale, to make a decision about an alternative traffic calming option for Pierce
Road. I will forward your email to the TSC and the Traffic Engineer.
(They will be making the decision at this meeting, nothing has been decided, and won't be until August 24th)
At the regularly scheduled TSC meeting on August 10th, the Commission will review whether or not to remove
the speed bumps on Pierce until an alternative solution can be decided upon at the August 24th Special
Meeting. (same time and location as above).
Sincerely,
Kristin Borel
Public Works Analyst
408 - 868 -1258
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From: dtrager @ramblc.com [mailto:dtrager@ramblc.com]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:05 PM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: RE: Pierce Rd Speed bumps
Hi Kristin,
Thanks for your reply. I understand that the bumps are also on the agenda for the August 10th meeting - -is that
correct?
By the wording on your email, is there already a decision to use an alternative calming option?
Thanks again for your help. David
Original Message:
From: Kristin Borel kborel @saratoga.ca.us
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 200618:01:01 -0700
To: dtrager @ramblc.com
Subject: RE: Pierce Rd Speed bumps
David,
Thank you for your input. The Traffic Safety Commission will be meeting on August 24th, at 6:30 pm in the
Senior Center at 19655 Allendale, to make a decision about an alternative traffic calming option for Pierce
Road. I will forward your email to the TSC and the Traffic Engineer.
Sincerely,
Kristin Borel
Public Works Analyst
408 - 868 -1258
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From: dtrager @ramblc.com [mailto:dtrager @ ramblc.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 200611:21 AM
To: Kristin Borel
Subject: Pierce Rd Speed bumps
Hi Kristen,
This is a letter that I wrote to City Council. If you could pass it along to the Traffic Commission, I would
appreciate it. Thanks, David
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Traffic Safety Commission (TSC) Meeting
Concerning Speed Lumps on Pierce Road
Meeting Information
On Thursday, August 24, at 6:30 p.m., Saratoga's Traffic Safety Commission (TSC) will meet to
review speed lumps installed on Pierce Road between Saratoga/Sunnyvale Road and Foothill
Lane.
Background
Speeding and neighborhood safety prompted the speed lump installation. The type of speed
control devices installed on Pierce Road was chosen because they:
1. Do not impede emergency vehicles.
2. Can be removed or relocated due to their bolt -down installation.
3. Were successfully implemented on other Saratoga local roads.
The following information has been determined since installation of the Pierce Road speed
lumps:
1. They are successful in reducing the speed of a majority of vehicles to the posted
speed limit between the devices.
2. The vertical profile of the speed lumps is viewed by some drivers as too abrupt.
3. This type of lump is not desirable for high volume roads.
In light of the above information and input received from public since the speed lumps were
installed, the TSC determined that other speed reduction options need to be explored that provide
both a commensurate level of traffic calming and a more "friendly" ride for vehicles traversing
them. These options will be presented at the TSC's August 24th meeting at which interested
residents are encouraged to attend.
Potential Modification Options
The TSC will consider several options to modify the installation on Pierce Road. Potential
modifications include: re- designing the speed lumps to allow faster travel; installing chokers or
raised curbs to replace one or more lumps; and/or installing permanent radar feedback signs. The
goal is to maintain an 85th percentile speed of approximately 35 mph based on the current posted
speed limit of 30 mph. Each option is discussed below:
A. Re- design Speed Lumps
The current lumps on Pierce Road are approximately 7 feet in length (in the direction of
travel) and have a relatively sharp incline and decline. They can be traversed at up to 20
mph provided a vehicle is basically centered on the lump. The speed humps located in the
El Quito south neighborhood (e.g., on Paseo Lado) are approximately 12 feet long and
provide a smoother ride than the Pierce Road lumps. Other speed humps in Palo Alto and
other cities are up to 22 feet long and allow even higher speeds up to 30 mph.
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The existing Pierce Road lumps could be re- designed to be extended up to 22 feet long.
This would allow higher travel speeds than the current bolt -down lumps, but the design
would have to be reviewed and tested by emergency response Providers. Speeds would
definitely be higher with longer lumps and may exceed the 85' percentile speed goal of
35 mph depending on the length of the lumps.
B. Install Median Chokers
Two methods of speed control are available: vertical and horizontal devices. Speed
lumps vertically displace a vehicle, while median chokers narrow the horizontal width of
travel lanes. The travel lanes on Pierce Road are approximately 12 feet wide with
shoulders that vary from one to two feet. Median chokers could be installed and would
provide a 10 -foot wide lane in each direction. To accommodate bicyclists, shoulders
around the outside chokers would be widened to approximately four feet and paved with
asphalt.
Median chokers do reduce speeds because they represent a physical impediment in the
roadway that must be avoided, but are less effective in reducing travel speeds because
they do not vertically displace vehicles like lumps or humps. Published data shows that
chokers or narrowings are less than half as effective compared to speed humps and
lumps. The medians will not likely be landscaped due to their narrow width.
C. Signage
As of Wednesday August 16th, the middle set of lumps was removed and replaced with
two radar trailers. These devices show drivers their travel speed next to the posted speed
limit, but do not provide any physical impediment requiring vehicles to slow down.
Permanent signs could be installed at any location in the study corridor to provide
constant feedback to drivers on their speed. Directed enforcement by the Santa Clara
County Sheriff would be required to ensure that appropriate speeds are maintained. Use
of radar feedback signs without any other devices on Pierce Road is not expected to
provide the same level of speed reduction that is currently being achieved with the lumps
in place.
Additional Evaluation
Once the TSC determines the preferred traffic calming option or combination of options,
additional speed data will be collected to determine their effectiveness. This data will be
presented at a subsequent TSC meeting for public review and discussion.
Other Sections of Pierce Road
In addition to the safety issues along the section of Pierce Road where the speed bumps were
installed, many residents voiced their concerns about safety along other sections of the road.
Some of these issues were discussed at the TSC's August 10th meeting. At that meeting, the TSC
directed staff to prepare a master safety plan for the rest of Pierce Road to be reviewed at the
November 9th TSC meeting.
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