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City of Saratoga
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:30- a.m.
Warner Hutton House, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue
Regular Meeting — Regular Meeting — Please meet at Warner Hutton
House at 8:30 a.m.
Routine Organization
A. Roll Call
B. Approval of minutes from April 08, 2008 meeting
C. Posting of Agenda — Pursuant to Government Code Section 54954.2, the
agenda was posted on May 8, 2008.
D. Oral & Written Communication - Any member of the public may address the
Commission about any matter not on the agenda for this meeting for up to
three minutes. Commissioners may not comment on the matter but may
choose to place the topic on a future agenda.
E. Oral Communications — Historic Preservation Commission direction to Staff —
Instruction to staff regarding actions on current Oral Communications.
Old Business
A. Discuss National'Registry & Saratoga Landmark Plaques
B. Discuss Heritage Orchard Signage
C. Discuss Historic Incentives
D. Discuss Sign for McWilliams House
E. Discuss Orchard Pathway
F. Discuss Orchard Maintenance
New Business
A. Proposed relocation of an Oak tree from the Heritage Orchard to a site at
West Valley College.
4. Pending Items
A. Historic Resources Inventory
B. National Register Applications
C. Adopt a Tree Program for the Heritage Orchard
D. Update Heritage Ordinance
E. Review Oak Street as a Heritage Lane
F. Review additional content for Heritage Resources webpage
G. Historic Preservation Data Base
H. Review list of properties with structures 50 years and over in age
5. Adjournment
Adjourn to 8:30 a.m. Tuesday, June 10, 2008, Warner Hutton House, 13777
Fruitvale Avenue.
Please advise the Chair if you will be absent from the next scheduled meeting
In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, if you are a disabled person and you
need a disability - related modification or accommodation to participate in this meeting, please
contact the City Clerk's Office at (408) 868 — 1269 or ctclerk @saratoga.ca.us. Requests must
be made as early as possible and at least one full business day before the start of the meeting.
Any recommendation made by the Heritage Preservation Commission may be appealed to the
Planning Commission within ten (10) days of the date of the decision. The appeal shall be
taken by filing with the Secretary of the Planning Commission a written notice and filing fee
within ten (10) days of the date of the decision.
Certificate of Posting of Agenda:
I, Christopher Riordan, Senior Planner for the City of Saratoga, declare that the foregoing
agenda for the meeting of the Heritage Preservation Commission of the City of Saratoga was
posted at the office of the City of Saratoga, 13777 Fruitvale Ave., Saratoga, CA 95070 and was
available for public review at that location. The agenda is also available on the City's website at
www.saratoga.ca.us.
Signed this 8th day of May 20 , at Saratoga, California.
Y�A a -
Christopher R ordan
Senior Planner
City of Saratoga
(408) 868 —1235
City of Saratoga
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES
Date: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 8:30 a.m.
Place: Warner Hutton House, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue
Type: Regular Meeting — Please meet in the parking lot in front of the
Warner Hutton House at 8:30 a.m. and Staff will provide
transportation to the site visit under New Business and return to
Warner Hutton House by approximately 9:15 a.m.
1. Routine Organization
A. Roll Call
PRESENT. • Commissioners Gomersall, Koepernik, McCarty, Sorden, Chair
Kellond, and Vice Chair Marra
ABSENT. Commissioner Tai
STAFF: Senior Planner Christopher Riordan
GUESTS: Mr. Mike Chen, Mr. Chun (Jessie) Ma
B. Approval of minutes from March 11, 2008 meeting- Approved
C. Posting of Agenda — Pursuant to Government Code Section 54954.2, the
agenda was posted on April 3, 2008.
D. Oral & Written Communication - Any member of the public may address the
Commission about any matter not on the agenda for this meeting for up to
three minutes. Commissioners may not comment on the matter but may
choose to place the topic on a future agenda. — None
E. Oral Communications — Historic Preservation Commission direction to Staff —
Instruction to staff regarding actions on current Oral Communications. — Vice
Chair Marra stated that he was disappointed in the paint color that was used
for the exterior of the Warner Hutton House as it is too lavender looking.
Commissioner Sorden said that it was important that the minutes of this
meeting state that the actual paint color used for the exterior of the Warner
Hutton House do not match the colors that were approved by the HPC and
the paint does not look like the paint chips approved by HPC.
Vice Chair Marra asked about the status of the historical report for the project
on Saint Charles.
2. Old Business
A. Discuss National Registry & Saratoga Landmark Plaques — Not Discussed
B. Discuss Heritage Orchard Signage — Item Discussed. Commissioner
Koepernik said that the HPC needs to push for the orchard signage and that
the initial estimates to construct the wall would be approximately between 30-
35 thousand dollars and there is a chance that the library could give some of
the money. The goal is to identify the historic orchard. Chair Kellond said
that there is a need to codify the budget for the sign and that he needs to
make some minor changes to the drawing of the orchard sign and then he will
take the design back to the library commission and the budget show reflect
the library financial input.
C. Discuss Historic Incentives — Not Discussed
D. Discuss Mustard Faire — Item Discussed. Chair Kellond said that he sent
Michael Taylor notes from the HPC meeting and that these notes were to be
attached to the report. Chair Kellond also said that he had reviewed the
report prepared by Michael Taylor and that the report was good and the
budget needed a dollar value since the goal of the HPC was not to ask for a
huge sum of money. Commissioner Koepernik stated that the staff report
should include dollar amounts and how much Parks and Recreation would
expend and that City Council would reduce the budget, there is a need to
know what the assets would cost. Chair Kellond said that West Valley
provided parking at no cost but could not guarantee that West Valley College
would not charge a fee next year. Chair Kellond said that he would forward
last year's Mustard Faire budget to Michael Taylor. Commissioner Gomersall
said that she was under the impression that the Mustard Faire could not grow
any bigger. Chair Kellond responded by saying that the Mustard Faire would
not grow bigger but just would get better and that he would like the event to
seem more established. Commissioner Koepernik said that there should not
be an assumption that people who provided free or no cost services to the
Faire would not always be available to do so and given this the budget figures
are too low. Chair Kellond said that he would follow up with Michael Taylor
with the comments received at this meeting, HPC presence should be present
at the meeting and that members who can go should go since the HPC
should be there to answer questions from the Council. Vice Chair Marra
expressed his concern that he did not know how the City Council would
respond and that there would be a need for the HPC to follow up with the
Council at a later time. Chair Kellond said that volunteers were needed to
attend the meeting to present HPC`s case. Commissioner Koepernik said
that there would be a need for a City Council /HPC study session after the
meeting and that he would attend the City Council meeting. Commissioner
Gomersall said that the HPC needs to have a meeting with Michael Taylor
first to discuss increasing the dollar amount. Commissioner Sorden said that
the Historical Foundation would not monitor the money next year, the
Foundation lost money, and this management should be added as a cost item
to the budget. Commissioner McCarty said that the Historical Foundation
should be reimbursed. Chair Kellond said that there was a consensus to
have the meeting in April 16, 2008 and that the HPC would request a study
session at the meeting. Commissioner Koepernik said that the figure should
get out than have a study session to discuss since there needs to be a more
detailed discussion of the budget. Chair Kellond said that the HPC needs to
follow up with the Council as soon as we can. Senior Planner Chris Riordan
said that he would provide the dates for budget input to the HPC and discuss
a possible study session with the City Manager. Commissioner Sorden said
that the cost of financial bookkeeping should be added to the budget amount.
E. Discuss Sign for McWilliams House — Not Discussed
F. Discuss Orchard Pathway — Item Discussed. Chair Kellond noted that
nothing had yet come back to the HPC for review. He also reiterated a
previous point that the HPC felt the proposed orchard sign was a priority over
the pathway. The HPC requested that the pathway plan come back to a later
meeting and that there was a need to review the construction details and if
there was a chance that the money for the pathway be used for the sign since
the sign is the primary priority. Commissioner Sorden mentioned his concern
on how the existence of the pathway would affect the maintenance costs of
the orchard. Commissioner Koepernik said that he would like to review the
cost of the orchard pathway.
G. Discuss Orchard Maintenance — Item Discussed. Senior Planner Christopher
Riordan brought up the issue of an Oak tree in the Heritage Orchard that was
affecting the orchard trees and that the City wanted to remove it and place it
on a site at West Valley College. It was a consensus of the HPC that the
relocation of the oak tree from the Heritage Orchard should come back to the
HPC for further discussion
3. New Business
A. 8:30 a.m. Site Visit — 13216 Pierce Road — Review proposed demolition of
the existing two story single - family home. — Item Discussed. Vice Chair
began the discussion by stating that the project site was an attractive piece of
property and that he was pleased that the applicants would be preserving the
Oak trees. Commissioner McCarty stated that the existing house on the site
was in bad shape and she agreed with Commissioner Marra that it was a nice
piece of property. Commissioner Gomersall said that she would support
tearing down the existing house and building a new residence in its place.
Commissioner Koepernik said that he would support the demolition of the
house but not for the reason of its existing poor condition, there is nothing
significant about the architectural style of the house or past owners and not
because it is deteriorating, and he suggested that the proposed house design
be modified. Chair Kellond said that he agreed with Commissioner Koepernik
that the existing condition of the house was not a valid reason to support the
demolition, the house does have some historical element but the house has
been significantly modified, the proposed design should be more sensitive to
the site and relate to the existing trees. Motion by Commissioner Koepernik
and seconded by Commissioner Gomersall to support the demolition with the
condition that the new design is cognizant of the existing trees on the site.
Carried on a 6 -0 vote.
B. Discuss Hakone Gardens - Item Discussed. Commissioner Koepernik said
Hakone Gardens needs to have landmark status and that the HPC should
support it and that it needs to be made official. Senior Planner Christopher
Riordan said that he would provide information to Commissioner Koepernik
on the landmark status process.
4. Pending Items
A. Historic Resources Inventory
B. National Register Applications
C. Adopt a Tree Program for the Heritage Orchard
D. Update Heritage Ordinance
E. Review Oak Street as a Heritage Lane
F. Review additional content for Heritage Resources webpage
G. Historic Preservation Data Base
H. Review list of properties with structures 50 years and over in age
5. Adjournment
Adjourn to 8:30 a.m. Tuesday, May 13, 2008, Warner Hutton House, 13777
Fruitvale Avenue.