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SARATOGA PLANNING COMMISSION
DATE: Wednesday, March 22, 2006
PLACE: Council Chambers/Civic Theater, 13777 Fruitvale Avenue, Saratoga, CA
TYPE: Regular Meeting
Chair Nagpal called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Cappello, Hunter, Kundtz, Nagpal, Rodgers and Schallop
Absent: Commissioner Uhl
Staff: Director John Livingstone, Associate Planner Lata Vasudevan, Associate
Planner Therese Schmidt, Assistant Planner Suzanne Thomas and Assistant
City Attorney Jonathan Wittwer
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – Regular Meeting of February 22, 2006.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Cappello, seconded by Commissioner
Kundtz, the Planning Commission minutes of the regular meeting of
February 22, 2006, were adopted with a correction to pages 4,5,6,8,14,15,
and 16. (601; Commissioner Uhl was absent)
ORAL COMMUNICATION
Mr. Paul Fortenot, Saratoga Resident:
• Thanked the Commission for the opportunity to speak.
• Explained that he spoke to Council about the need for a master plan for wireless facilities.
• Said that while this issue will move forward, it will take time.
• Assured that he is willing to help out with this.
• Said that Saratoga needs to be informed of current and future sites for each service
provider.
• Added that this does not mean confidential or proprietary information.
• Suggested that Nextel, with a pending application for the Church of the Ascension, be
asked to provide this longterm plan for Saratoga.
• Advised that there are third party companies out there compiling such information.
• Said that Council could be encouraged to insist that this sort of information be part of the
application process.
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Commissioner Kundtz said that he has probed applicants on two occasions about their long
range strategic plan but was told both times that this information does not exist. He asked Mr.
Paul Fortenot if he knows factually that they do indeed have such information.
Mr. Paul Fortenot said that while he cannot state factually that they do have such information,
he does believe they can provide such information if asked.
Commissioner Kundtz agreed it would likely be available.
Mr. Paul Fortenot agreed.
Chair Nagpal pointed out that the Church of the Ascension is scheduled for a Study Session.
Mr. Ray Muzzy, Saratoga Resident:
• Reminded that the people who come to the public meetings for the service providers don’t
actually work for those providers but rather represent third party companies.
• Assured that corporations do have such longterm plans but that this information would
have to be extracted from the providers themselves rather than their thirdparty
representatives.
• Stated that if this information is required, they would cough it up but they would not do so
unless required to do so.
ORAL COMMUNICATION – PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTION TO STAFF
Chair Nagpal asked Director John Livingstone if Council has changed its priorities as far as
Ordinance updates.
Director John Livingstone reported that staff is preparing a report to Council for its meeting of
April 5 th that will update them on priorities.
Commissioner Cappello asked whether the list of questions developed for cell site
applications could be a part of the package for the pending application from Nextel.
Director John Livingstone replied that this is not a requirement but the applicant is encouraged
to provide the most information possible.
REPORT OF POSTING AGENDA
Director John Livingstone announced that, pursuant to Government Code 54954.2, the
agenda for this meeting was properly posted on March 15, 2006.
REPORT OF APPEAL RIGHTS
Chair Nagpal announced that appeals are possible for any decision made on this Agenda by
filing an Appeal Application with the City Clerk within fifteen (15) calendar days of the date of
the decision, pursuant to Municipal Code 15.90.050(b).
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CONSENT CALENDAR
There were no Consent Calendar Items.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NO. 1
APPLICATION #06210 (39706092) NARAIN, 18596 Arbolado Way: The applicant
requests Design Review Approval to demolish approximately 38% of the existing exterior
walls of a singlestory singlefamily detached residence and construct a major architectural
renovation with the addition of a second story and construct a small detached accessory pool
structure. The total floor area of the proposed residence will be 5,897 square feet including an
attached garage. The proposal includes removal of one Ordinancesized tree, a 12inch
diameter European White Birch. The maximum height of the proposed residence will not be
higher than 24 feet. The net lot size is 40,205 square feet and the site is zoned R140,000.
(Therese Schmidt)
Associate Planner Therese Schmidt presented the staff report as follows:
• Stated that the applicant is seeking Design Review Approval to demolish approximately 38
percent of the exterior walls of an existing singlestory singlefamily residence and
construct a new second story and small pool structure.
• Described the architecture being modified from ranch to traditional contemporary.
• Reported that this conversion of a singlestory into a twostory is exempt under CEQA and
no geotechnical clearance is required.
• Explained that there are 15 protected trees on the property and the Arborist’s report
recommends the removal of one Birch tree.
• Advised that five neighbors submitted comments. One had concerns over the architectural
design’s compatibility with the neighborhood.
• Said that this project is consistent with the General Pal and that Design Review findings
can be made in the affirmative.
• Recommended approval.
Commissioner Rodgers pointed out that instead of story poles there was simply a single two
by four at the top of the roof to indicate the maximum proposed height. She asked whether
orange netting had been required.
Planner Therese Schmidt replied that the use of orange netting was not required but strongly
suggested. Staff simply asked for the single pole.
Commissioner Hunter asked why orange netting was not required.
Planner Therese Schmidt said that it was simply an oversight on her part as the applicant
would have been willing to install this orange netting if asked.
Commissioner Hunter said that use of orange netting shows up better and is important on a
hillside.
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Commissioner Kundtz said he agreed that one pole was not enough. He added that more
comprehensive poles with netting would be well received by the Planning Commission.
Planner Therese Schmidt said that staff would take care in the future.
Commissioner Rodgers pointed out that other residences beyond the noticing distance of 500
feet could be impacted with hillside construction.
Chair Nagpal opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Mr. Ada m Rock wood, Pro ject Architect:
• Advised that thi s project was sub mitted on Dece mber 21, 2005.
• Said that they are thrilled to bring thi s project before the Commission.
• Advised that thi s is a 40,205 square foot level lot that will undergo a ma jor re model
with the addi ti on of a second story and cabana for a total square footage of 5,897.
• Described the archi tectural style as bei ng i nternati onal .
• Said that two nei ghbors had expressed concern over the proposed archi tectural style.
• Pointed out that there are varied archi tectural styles in thi s area includi ng neoclassic,
modern, Spanish, col oni al revival and others.
• Said that one Ordi nance protected tree, with a 12inch di ameter, would be removed
and repl aced with two Oaks.
• Re minded that they have been working with staff for three months.
• Said that thi s project is pure to its archi tectural style and the requi rements of the
Planni ng Department.
Co mmissioner Hunter poi nted out that there is no way that homes along Sobey Road can
be aware of the potenti al impacts of this second story addi ti on. She asked Mr. Ada m
Rockwood if it had occurred to hi m to install the orange netti ng to demonstrate the
impacts of this addi ti on.
Mr. Ada m Rock wood replied no, they simply followed staff di recti on.
Co mmissioner Rodgers said that she takes a consistent approach on hillside projects a nd
asked Mr. Ada m Rock wood if he i s opposed to installing netti ng for a while.
Mr. Ada m Rock wood:
• Replied yes, they would object at this poi nt in time.
• Re minded that the use of orange netti ng was never required or requested.
• Stated that imposing that requi rement that now would mean this appl ication would
have to come back to a future meeting.
• Re minded that the nei ghbors were noti fi ed as requi red.
• Clarifi ed that thi s i s not a hi llside lot.
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Co mmissioner Hunter sai d that thi s addition would be visibl e but she can understand the
concerns by the applicant about requesting orange netti ng to be installed at thi s poi nt
since thi s was not a requi rement.
Chair Nagpal asked the slope of thi s lot.
Mr. Ada m Rock wood replied seven percent slope. He said that if one looks at the larger
homes located across the way, many are painted very obvious col ors such as peach while
he is proposing natural col ors that match the area better. He assured that thi s home
would be l ess visible than the large white houses located bel ow them.
Chair Nagpal asked to see the color boards.
Co mmissioner Rogers asked how the flat roof style i s designed to handl e rain runoff.
Mr. Ada m Rock wood replied that the Building Department standards are met and include
a minimu m slope and gutter system to handl e rainwater.
Co mmissioner Cappel lo asked about the roofing material proposed.
Mr. Ada m Rockwood said that the roofi ng material is not yet determined but he assured
that it would be nonreflective and not metal. He said that it might be asphalt. He
concluded by stati ng hi s hope that the Commission would approve thi s applicati on toni ght.
Chair Nagpal closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 1.
Co mmissioner Hunter:
• Agreed that since the use of orange netting was not requested of this applicant, it
would be unfai r to penalize them for not having i t i nstalled.
• Suggested that in the future, it would be a good idea to requi re installati on of orange
netting on hillside properti es.
• Said that this home design i s fi ne and unusual.
• Stated her support.
Co mmissioner Rodgers:
• Said that whenever a hillside property is involved, she would like to see story pol es
installed.
• Added that she does not have the imagination to see the potenti al impacts without a
demonstration using the orange netti ng.
• Said that some neighbors have objected to thi s home’s internati onal modern
architecture but she does not.
• Said that it is somewhat hard to see how it will look in three di mensions especially the
older porti on about the pl ai n exterior walls.
Co mmissioner Kundtz sai d that there is a home si milarly designed located near hi m and
that thi s is a great and unique design.
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Co mmissioner Cappel lo:
• Agreed that story pol es are very benefi cial to hel p gi ve perspecti ve but that the City
does not currentl y have that as a requirement but rather just as a request of
applicants.
• Re minded that the appl icant met the request made to install the singl e pol e and cannot
be penalized for not going beyond that.
• Said that until the use of story pol es becomes an Ordinance requi rement, the
Co mmission i s in a tough positi on.
• Stated that he likes thi s home’s design.
• Agreed that there is a mixture of architectural design in thi s and other areas of
Saratoga.
Co mmissioner Hunter cauti oned that if staff suggests to an applicant that story pol es are
a good idea, the applicant should do it. She added that the Commission could ask for
story pol es.
Co mmissioner Rodgers agreed that the Co mmission could ask if it believes it to be
necessary. She asked that the Community Development Director implement the wis hes
of the Commission on thi s i ssue.
Co mmissioner Cappello sai d that he could understand why the singl e pol e was requested
by staff to defi ne the ma ximu m height on this flat design.
Co mmissioner Rodgers sai d that one twobyfour woul d not tell the extent of the hei ght of
the roof to her.
Co mmissioner Cappello said that he has no probl em i magini ng the impact to views with
one pol e.
Chair Nagpal :
• Said that thi s is a mixed neighborhood and thi s home has a beauti ful modern,
internati onal design.
• Pointed out a nearby contemporary home that is l ocated next to a Spani sh style home.
• Said that this home would be an asset.
• Expressed her support.
• Added that the proposed col ors made a difference for her as they are very much in
keeping with the general surroundings.
• Stated that she i s abl e to make the requi red findi ngs in the affirmative.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Hunter, seconded by Commissioner
Cappello, the Planning Commission adopted a Resolution granting Design
Review Approval (Application #06210) to allow a renovation and second
story addition and a new accessory pool structure at an existing residence
located at 18596 Arbolado Way, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Cappello, Hunter, Kundtz, Nagpal, Rodgers and Schallop
NOES: None
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ABSENT: Uhl
ABSTAIN: None
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NO. 2
APPLICATION #06270 (50327650) GUO/MA, 14360 Paul Avenue: The applicant
requests a modification to a Design Review Approval granted by the Planning Commission at
their January 11, 2006, hearing, which consisted of demolition of an existing onestory single
family residence and construction of a twostory singlefamily residence with a total floor area
of 2,400 square feet. A 966 square foot basement was also approved. The maximum height
of the approved residence is 25 feet, 6 inches. The proposed modification would increase the
total floor area to 5,558 square feet and decrease the maximum height of the residence to 24
feet, 8 inches. The gross lot size is 5,162 square feet and the site is zoned R110,000.
(Therese Schmidt)
Planner Therese Schmidt presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking approval of a Modification to a Design Review
Approval that was granted by the Planning Commission at its meeting of January 11, 2006.
• Reminded that the original approval was to demolish a singlestory singlefamily residence
and construct a twostory singlefamily residence with an attached twocar garage, a 966
square foot basement and with a maximum height of 25 feet, 6 inches.
• Explained that the Modification includes a decrease in maximum height to 24 feet, 8
inches, changing of windows and a 158 square foot addition to the second story at the
north elevation of the house.
• Reported that any changes to an approval made by the Planning Commission are brought
back to the Commission for consideration.
• Said that this project is Categorically Exempt under CEQA and no geotechnical or arborist
reports are required.
• Stated that four neighbors submitted comments. One has concern about the change in
window location. Another neighbor called this evening and said he plans to attend tonight.
• Said that the project is consistent with the General Plan and meets Design Review
findings.
• Recommended approval with two changes to the draft Resolution. One is to correct the
date on Condition No. 1 from December 22, 2005, to March 3, 2006. Another is the
addition of Condition No. 14 that requires the redesign of the chimney to extend beyond
the roofline to the approval of the Community Development Director.
Commissioner Hunter asked for clarification that the proposed window changes are for two
windows and include what was once a simple window as now a bow window in the master
bedroom.
Planner Therese Schmidt replied yes. She added that what was once a single window is now
proposed to be changed into two windows.
Commissioner Hunter asked if the bow window is bigger thw regular window.
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Planner Therese Schmidt replied yes.
Chair Nagpal asked how high this window would be placed.
Planner Therese Schmidt answered five feet, five inches above the floor.
Commissioner Cappello asked if the decrease in maximum height is a design change.
Planner Therese Schmidt replied yes.
Commissioner Rodgers asked if raising the chimney above the roofline would have an impact
on the neighbor.
Planner Therese Schmidt said that it would have no view impact and would look better.
Commissioner Rodgers added that it would also work better for a woodburning fireplace.
Planner Therese Schmidt advised that she believed this fireplace is gas.
Chair Nagpal opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Ms. Rachel Frame, Project Designer:
• Said that she is representing Mr. and Mrs. Ma.
• Said that windows appear to be the primary concern especially the proposed bow window.
The neighbor with concerns is here tonight.
• Reported that the Mas have reached an agreement with Mr. Schneider and the original
placement of the bow widow would be kept where it was at the back of the house but
wider. It will be centered more and extended in width and Mr. Schneider has agreed.
• Added that a window has been added to the right elevation, at the right side of the back of
the house serving bedroom #2.
Commissioner Rodgers asked if the bay window to the back of the house is still in the new
proposed location.
Ms. Rachel Frame reported that they had met with Mr. Schneider just before tonight’s meeting
and reached a compromise. The Mas have agreed to reduce the height and bow and move it
back to the original location with slightly larger width.
Commissioner Cappello asked if the bow window on the right side would be removed and
replaced with an equivalent window as is used on the left side.
Ms. Rachel Frame replied correct. She added that Dr. Weinmann had an issue with the
height and location of that window. He does not like the added width proposed. She reported
that they had a lineofsite study prepared.
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Commissioner Cappello clarified that the previous placement at five feet, five inches has been
replaced with a bow window at a fivefoot height that is wider.
Ms. Rachel Frame:
• Replied correct.
• Reported that the bow window is back in its original location.
• Explained that she had an error in FAR (floor area ratio) calculations that allowed them to
add approximately 150 square feet to the second level that allows an additional bath and a
wider master bedroom that was originally 11 feet and is now 14 feet wide. Additionally, the
fourth bedroom didn’t have a closet and one has been added with the addition of two feet
to the north left side of the house.
• Said that the house is still set back five feet further than required due to an easement.
• Stated that the roof was brought down to help mitigate the appearance of bulk.
• Assured that the new elevations are much more attractive and in proportion.
Dr. Bob Weinmann, Saratoga Resident:
• Said that he is concerned about lineofsite impacts with a larger window and its potential
for invasion of privacy in his yard.
• Said that the larger window offers more viewing space.
• Stated that as long as the lineofsite is not changed from previously approved, his concern
is mitigated. If not, he stands to sacrifice privacy for the use of his pool and yard area,
which causes a concern of the quality of use of his yard and pool.
• Added that this is not an unreasonable concern.
• Pointed out that another window in the other direction will already offer light to this room.
• Said in the issue of privacy versus need for light, he would be the largest loser.
Commissioner Rodgers asked how Dr. Weinmann would feel about adding a Condition
requiring the planting of trees.
Dr. Weinmann asked what side of the property.
Commissioner Rodgers asked Dr. Weinmann his preference.
Dr. Weinmann said his preference would be on his side.
Commissioner Hunter asked Dr. Weinmann if he is willing to allow the planting of trees on his
property.
Dr. Weinmann said he would be willing but that he is not sure if this would be an adequate
solution. He added that he has to defer to the expertise of the project designer.
Mr. Scott Schneider, Saratoga Resident:
• Explained that he is the neighbor who called earlier this evening.
• Said that he and the Mas have reached a good compromise and that he was glad to have
been able to work something out with the Mas that is good for both sides.
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Commissioner Hunter asked Mr. Schneider where his home is located.
Mr. Scott Schneider replied next to Dr. Weinmann’s.
Ms. Rachel Frame:
• Said that the only issue left is the window and Dr. Weinmann’s concerns about it.
• Said that it is up to the Planning Commission to determine if widening this window
represents an added invasion of his privacy.
• Stated that there is no change in lineofsight. They are only widening the window not
changing the height.
• Deferred this decision to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Hunter asked if this would be a child’s room.
Ms. Rachel Frame replied that it is for a second child that is not yet on the way.
Commissioner Cappello said that this room shares windows on the front of the home.
Ms. Rachel Frame replied correct. She said that there is a lot of window in that room but that
it is a small room and windows open small spaces up.
Commissioner Cappello asked if there is also a window on the other side of the house serving
this particular bedroom.
Ms. Rachel Frame replied no.
Commissioner Hunter asked Ms. Rachel Frame for her comments on the installation of trees.
Ms. Rachel Frame said this risks compromising the view of the hills by the Mas. She said that
they would prefer a compromise in the size of window if necessary.
Commissioner Hunter pointed out that Dr. Weinmann could plant trees on his property any
way.
Ms. Rachel Frame agreed.
Chair Nagpal closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 2.
Commissioner Kundtz:
• Said that the Mas did a nice job with the redesign.
• Stated that it is nice for them to find an extra 150 square feet.
• Said that there is a lot of emphasis on unreasonable invasions of privacy.
• Said that there is not an unreasonable compromise of privacy on Dr. Weinmann as privacy
impacts are not expanded with a horizontal expansion of this window.
• Advised that he supports the project as proposed.
• Reminded that, if necessary, Dr. Weinmann can plant trees on his property.
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Commissioner Rodgers:
• Suggested that the applicants be asked to provide a tree to Dr. Weinmann that only grows
to a certain height.
• Said that she does not object to the window as proposed.
• Proposed that Dr. Weinmann be allowed to see the window view once installed to
determine if a screening tree is even necessary to preserve his privacy in the yard.
Chair Nagpal asked if Commissioner Rodgers is suggested that as a Condition of Approval.
Commissioner Rodgers replied yes.
Commissioner Cappello:
• Agreed that the impact is not unreasonable.
• Said he has no problem supporting this project as is.
• Expressed appreciation for the applicant’s mitigation of impacts as much as possible by
relocating the bow window.
• Stated his support.
Commissioner Hunter:
• Pointed out that Dr. Weinmann’s home is a singlestory.
• Said that getting a new twostory next to an existing singlestory is a shock but that
accommodations have been made.
• Said that she will support this request and that she hopes the neighbors work together.
• Suggested that Dr. Weinmann has a triangle of land available where he can put in trees if
necessary for privacy.
Chair Nagpal:
• Explained that the line of sight drawings show that there are no unreasonable impacts with
this window.
• Expressed agreement with the comments of the other Commissioners.
• Said that she does not agree with the suggested added Condition of Approval requiring Dr.
Weinmann to see the window in place to decide if a tree is necessary.
Commissioner Rodgers said that she is willing to support this project even without that
condition.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Cappello, seconded by Commissioner
Rodgers, the Planning Commission adopted a Resolution granting a
Modification (Application #06270) to a previously approved Design Review
Approval (Application No. 06075) changing out windows, increasing the
total square footage and decreasing the maximum height, on property
located at 14360 Paul Avenue, as modified, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Cappello, Hunter, Kundtz, Nagpal, Rodgers and Schallop
NOES: None
ABSENT: Uhl
ABSTAIN: None
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NO. 3
APPLICATION #06173 (41039016) LLOYD, 15310 Quito Road: The applicant requests
Design Review Approval to construct a 920 square foot onestory addition to an existing two
story singlefamily residence. The total floor area of the residence, including the proposed
addition, is 6,537 square feet. The maximum height of the addition is 18 feet. The net lot size
is 42,207 square feet and the site is zoned R140,000. (Suzanne Thomas)
Assistant Planner Suzanne Thomas presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking Design Review Approval to add a singlestory
addition to an existing twostory residence of approximately 900 square feet for a total
square footage over 6,000 square feet.
• Explained that Planning Commission approval is required whenever the total square
footage of a residence exceeds 6,000 square feet.
• Added that the maximum height proposed is 18 feet and the lot size is 42,000 square in an
R140,000 zoning district.
• Reported that building materials would match existing including natural stone, plaster and
a tile room.
• Distributed a photograph of the home and the color rendering.
• Stated that three trees are potentially impacted. One, a Walnut, has received support for
removal by the Arborist due to its poor condition.
• Reminded that there is a riparian zone by the creek on this property. Therefore there are
two zones between the creek and the house. The riparian zone and the setback
measured from that zone.
• Said that the modification of the Conditions of Approval that was approved on November
23, 2005, allowed encroachment into the setback if a biologist says that it can be allowed.
This would consist of approximately four square feet in area with ample mitigations
proposed and conditioned.
• Explained that since this project is 150 feet away from the creek, there is no requirement
for a permit from the Santa Clara Valley Water District, which requires permits for work
performed within 50 feet of a creek.
Commissioner Rodgers asked about the fence in place nearby.
Planner Suzanne Thomas:
• Said that the applicant could respond about the fence.
• Reported that the plans were provided to the neighbors and notification occurred to
property owners within 500 feet. No negative comments were received.
• Said that the site is set back and located below Quito Road. There are no views or privacy
impacts.
• Said that one tree will be removed.
• Reported that the Biologist has reviewed impacts and finds this project will enhance the
area.
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• Recommended approval, saying that the required findings can be made in the affirmative.
Commissioner Kundtz extended his compliments to Planner Suzanne Thomas on her report.
He pointed out that the check off boxes on the neighbor notification forms are not included.
He pointed out that he had mentioned this oversight before and asked staff to look at this
more carefully in the future.
Planner Suzanne Thomas said this is an excellent point and staff will watch for it in the future.
Commissioner Rodgers sought clarification on the area to be encroached.
Planner Suzanne Thomas explained that it is not the riparian corridor that is to be encroached
but the buffer zone.
Commissioner Rodgers pointed out a drain grate that appears to be on the footprint of the
home.
Planner Suzanne Thomas deferred this issue to the applicant.
Chair Nagpal opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine, Project Architect:
• Explained that with the original subdivision the W ater District required the fence mentioned
by Commissioner Rodgers.
Commissioner Rodgers said that although there was no footprint indicated on the ground she
had a question about the existing grate that appears to be in the proposed footprint.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine said it was in the footprint area and would be moved eight to ten feet
toward the creek.
Chair Nagpal asked if this is a storm drain.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine replied that it is an area drain for the yard.
Commissioner Rodgers asked if it handles runoff.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine said that if there is heavy rain perhaps but not a significant amount.
Commissioner Rodgers asked about the use of wood burning fireplaces particularly with the
close proximity of only 30 feet to the house on Lot C.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine replied that the two proposed fireplaces are gas.
Commissioner Rodgers pointed out that Code allows one wood burning and the Conditions list
one wood burning and one gas. She asked Mr. Derek Van Alstine if he has any problem
changing the Condition to reflect two gasburning fireplaces.
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Mr. Derek Van Alstine replied no.
Commissioner Rodgers asked about plans for a pool.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine replied that this would be dealt with later as a separate application.
Commissioner Rodgers asked staff if a pool was not already approved.
Planner Suzanne Thomas replied no. The request for a pool has not yet been submitted.
Commissioner Rodgers asked if a pool application comes to the Commission.
Mr. Derek Van Alstine:
• Replied that the concept of a pool was brought to the Commission as part of the mitigation
factor as part of the landscape plan.
• Stated that it is anticipated that a pool will be built but it is an overthecounter application
to be handled later and not as part of this application.
• Thanked the Commission for its time.
• Asked for approval of this application this evening.
Chair Nagpal closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 3.
Commissioner Hunter said she thought this project is fine.
Commissioner Cappello agreed.
Assistant City Attorney Jonathan Wittwer pointed out a typographical correction on the
resolution where the word “if” should be replaced with “is.”
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Hunter, seconded by Commissioner
Kundtz, the Planning Commission adopted a Resolution granting Design
Review Approval (Application No. 06173) to construct a single story
addition to an existing twostory singlefamily residence on property
located at 15310 Quito Road, with the modification to Condition #3A
allowing only gas fireplaces, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Cappello, Hunter, Kundtz, Nagpal, Rodgers and Schallop
NOES: None
ABSENT: Uhl
ABSTAIN: None
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NO. 4
APPLICATION #06156 (39710033) HARINARAYAN, 15126 Via Colina: The applicant
requests Design Review Approval to construct a new twostory singlefamily home with a
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basement on a vacant 44,478 (net) square foot lot. The total floor area of the proposed
residence will be 6,029 square feet including an attached garage, with a 2,410 square foot
basement. The proposal includes removal of one Ordinancesized tree, a 25inch diameter
Deodar Cedar. The maximum height of the proposed residence will be 26 feet. The site is
zoned R140,000. (Lata Vasdevan)
Associate Planner Lata Vasudevan presented the staff report as follows:
• Advised that the applicant is seeking Design Review Approval to allow a new multistory
6,029 square foot residence with a 2,410 square foot basement and a maximum height of
26 feet.
• Described the architectural style as Spanish Mediterranean that is compatible with the
neighborhood. The home uses varying rooflines and articulation reduces and minimizes
the appearance of mass. The home will compliment the neighborhood.
• Stated that materials include brown barrel clay tile roof, beige stucco and iron railings.
• Explained that there are five trees on or near the property with potential for impacts. One,
a Cedar, has been determined by the Arborist to be suitable for removal because of poor
condition.
• Stated that the conditions proposed by the October 2005 Arborist Report have been
added.
• Reported that no negative comments were received by the neighbors who reviewed the
project.
• Explained that the applicant made efforts to contact neighbors and will report on those
efforts.
• Said that Design Review findings can be made in the affirmative.
• Recommended approval.
• Pointed out a correct to Attachment #3 of the staff report where the mailing notice labels
were included from the wrong project in the staff report. A correct distribution list was
provided to the Commissioners.
Commissioner Rodgers said that the proposed stucco color appears yellow rather than earth
tone.
Planner Lata Vasudevan said that there is no specific definition of earth tones but includes
beige, yellow and sandstone.
Commissioner Hunter said that in her experience she has never seen an application for which
no neighbor acknowledgement forms were received. She said that the applicant should
explain the notification attempts.
Chair Nagpal opened the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 4.
Mr. Noel Cross, Project Architect:
• Said that his clients attempted several times to reach neighbors. No one was home when
contact was attempted. His clients dropped off notes. Since that time, his clients have
spoken with four neighbors. No negative comments were received. One made comment
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on the size but was satisfied to learn of the retention of the Cedar tree. The neighbors
across the street had promised to send the form in to the City.
Commissioner Hunter reiterated that she is amazed not to see any returned forms.
Mr. Noel Cross assured that the attempt was made to secure these forms.
Commissioner Hunter said that the Commission likes to see these signed forms especially
since this is such an enormous home.
Mr. Noel Cross reiterated that attempts were made.
Commissioner Rodgers asked about the paint color proposed.
Mr. Noel Cross said that the use of a color copier brightened the appearance of the proposed
color on the sample board. He added that he would consider earthening the paint color down
to a more brown and muted color.
Commissioner Hunter asked what happens to the bags on the tree roots after the concrete is
poured.
Mr. Paul Conrado, Project Builder, advised that the bags are removed and the area back filled
with dirt.
Ms. Sudha Neelakantan, Property Owner & Applicant:
• Reported on her attempts to secure neighbor input on her proposal.
• Said that one couple said they would show the plans to their architect and contact her if
there are any problems with the proposal.
• Added that another neighbor thought the house was large but had no impact on him so he
promised to send in the form.
• Stated that she spoke with the neighbor across the street, offered the plans and expected
comments.
• Concluded by saying she is not sure why none of the forms were returned.
Commissioner Hunter said she has never seen a case with no returned forms.
Ms. Sudha Neelakantan said that she tried. She said that the neighbor across the street was
supportive and promised to submit the form. She added that the O’Connells were not
interested as they only live in the neighborhood for part of the year.
Commissioner Hunter said that the paint color seems bright.
Ms. Sudha Neelakantan said she would defer to her architect on that issue.
Mr. Noel Cross:
• Said that the color appears brighter because it is a color copy.
• Assured that the original samples are more muted.
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• Added that they are willing to change color.
• Stated that he had impressed on his clients the importance of neighbor contact and they
did their best. The neighbors were not interested.
Commissioner Hunter said that the applicant usually takes the form and has the neighbor sign
it and takes it back right away.
Ms. Sudha Neelakantan said that this request for signature was refused.
Mr. Noel Cross reiterated that every attempt was made to get the forms signed.
Chair Nagpal closed the Public Hearing for Agenda Item No. 4.
Commissioner Cappello:
• Stated that if neighbors had issues, the Commission would hear about them. If not, they
don’t seem to care.
• Advised that he likes the design. It is a beautiful home that fits nicely.
• Suggested that the findings to support can be reached easily.
• Said that the color is bright and can be muted down working with staff.
Commissioner Schallop agreed.
Commissioner Rodgers asked staff if they need any more instruction on color.
Director John Livingstone replied no, staff could work with the applicant on color.
Commissioner Hunter:
• Explained that the Commission has to study a project before a hearing. Each reads the
packet thoroughly including reading neighbor comments.
• Said that she hopes in future it does not happen again that no neighbor input is provided.
• Reiterated that in her five years as a Commissioner she has never seen a project where
no neighbor forms were provided.
• Stressed that the Commission is here to represent the community and it needs to do a
good job.
Chair Nagpal asked Commissioner Hunter if she supports this project.
Commissioner Hunter replied yes, with reservations.
Motion: Upon motion of Commissioner Cappello, seconded by Chair Nagpal, the
Planning Commission adopted a Resolution granting Design Review
Approval (Application #06156) to allow the construction of a new two
story singlefamily residence on a vacant lot on property located at 15126
Via Colina, by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Cappello, Hunter, Kundtz, Nagpal, Rodgers and Schallop
NOES: None
ABSENT: Uhl
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ABSTAIN: None
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DIRECTOR’S ITEMS
There were no Director’s Items.
COMMISSION ITEMS
Commissioner Kundtz asked for additional staff input on the issue of story poles, orange
netting and public notification.
Director John Livingstone said that there are noticing limits and currently no requirement for
story poles. The feedback from the Commission is that it wants more story poles to provide a
visual reference to help determine impacts particularly for hillside properties where impacts
might be generated across a valley. He said that staff can request story poles but the
applicant can also refuse. Story poles can be costly to install.
Chair Nagpal pointed out that if members of the public notice story poles, they can contact the
City for information about what is proposed.
Assistant City Attorney Jonathan Wittwer asked if there is a difference between story pole and
orange webbing.
Commissioner Rodgers said that she is speaking of orange webbing.
Director John Livingstone said that typically story poles include orange webbing to show the
ridgeline.
Chair Nagpal cautioned that the Commission is not asking for story poles for all projects.
Commissioner Rodgers said that hillside lots are a major concern.
Commissioner Hunter agreed that small lots and hillside properties are very important for use
of story poles to determine impacts.
Commissioner Cappello agreed and suggested further guidance for staff since the significant
cost is of concern. He added that the cost of story poles does not help the design and
building. While story poles are not to be required in every case, they are appropriate in some.
Chair Nagpal agreed that they are not necessary in all cases but it is important for staff to let
an applicant know if they believe story poles are necessary.
Commissioner Rodgers said that large homes on a hill and small substandard lots where
houses are so close could benefit from story poles to allow a visual depiction of impacts.
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Commissioner Hunter asked staff if there have been appeals of recent Commission actions to
Council.
Director John Livingstone reported that the Subway denial has been appealed and will be
heard by Council at its April 5 th meeting.
Chair Nagpal announced that she would be present at the April 5 th Council meeting to
represent the Planning Commission’s majority vote.
Commissioner Rodgers asked how opposing views from the Planning Commission could be
presented to Council.
Commissioner Hunter replied that the Chair presents the chief Planning Commission votes but
any Commissioner can speak as an individual.
Director John Livingstone reminded that Council could redirect appeals back to the
Commission. If any Commissioner speaks as a citizen at the Council hearing that could taint
their involvement if Council returns the project to the Commission for further consideration.
Assistant City Attorney Jonathan Wittwer said that if a Commissioner speaks at a Council
meeting as a private individual, there might be a bias claim by the applicant stating that this
particular Commissioner should not consider the project again.
Commissioner Rodgers asked if she simply reports the comments of the Commission is there
still the potential for a bias issue.
Assistant City Attorney Jonathan Wittwer replied yes.
Chair Nagpal pointed out that the Council would have the minutes from the Planning
Commission meeting.
Assistant City Attorney Jonathan Wittwer stated that this is why the review of the minutes from
that meeting was so important.
COMMUNICATIONS
There were no Communications Items.
ADJOURNMENT TO NEXT MEETING
Upon motion of Commissioner Hunter, seconded by Commissioner Kundtz, Chair Nagpal
adjourned the meeting at 9:08 p.m. to the next Regular Planning Commission meeting of April
12, 2006, at 7:00 p.m.
MINUTES PREPARED AND SUBMITTED BY:
Corinne A. Shinn, Minutes Clerk