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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES
DATE: November 16, 1983, 3:30 p.m.
PLACE: Arts and Crafts Room, 19655 Allendale Ave., Saratoga
TYPE: Regular Meeting
ROUTINE ORGANIZATION
ROLL'CALL
Present: Commissioners Cameron, Heid, Kvamme, Landshess, Voester,
and Chairman McArthur
Absent: Commissioner Henderson
MINUTES
The Commission determined that an addendum to the minutes of October
19, 1983 was necessary. The addendum would be as follows:
"Commissioner Cameron reported the results of his review
of the General Plan of the City as it relates to heritage
perservation. A list of pertinent goals and policies,
area plan guidelines, and various citings of the text of
the General Plan were passed out to the Commission. Com-
missioner Cameron indicated that there might not be a need
for a Historic Element for the General Plan since the
existing General Plan provided a sufficient basis for
the actions taken by the Commission including new or-
dinances or the modification off, existing ordinances.
Commissioner Kvamme delivered a brief progress report
on her efforts to computerize the City's inventory of
Heritage Resources. It was also noted that staff had
been responsible for placing the legend on the Historic
Inventory Map. Minor corrections to the list of poten-
tial candidates for the Heritage Inventory were made by
Commissioner Voester."
With the addition of the addendum, the reading of the minutes for
the meeting of October 19, 1983 was waived and the minutes approved
unanimously.
I. OLD BUSINESS
A. Commissioner Kvamme briefly updated her progress on creating
a computer generated inventory booklet. Sample sheets, including
reproduction of photographs, was passed around for Commission Review.
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Discussion then ensued on buying binders for the inventory sheets.
Staff indicated that the budget for the Community Development De-
partment did not include funds for that purpose, but staff would
look into the matter. Commissioner Kvamme offered to donate some
extra binders she had to the Commission for each of their inventories.
Discussion then followed on the items in the inventory that were to
be deleted. It was determined that any item not in the City's sphere
of influence should be deleted. Commissioner Kvamme asked for some-
one on the Commission to review her draft inventory for errors.
B. Commissioner Landshess briefly discussed her conversation
with Mrs. Brozda regarding the use of her property and its possible
designation as a Heritage resource. It was decided that this item
should be discussed at the next Commission meeting.
II. NEW BUSINESS
A. Chairman McArthur introduced Robin McKinnis, a former
Gilroy planner, who was primarily responsible for the historic
studies done for Gilroy, Ms. McKinnis described the start of the
study which began at about the same time as the update of Gilroy's
General Plan. One of the major issues in Gilroy was allowing high
density residential use in the downtown area where many older homes
were located. The ugly apartments associated with high density
developments provided the impetus for creating a historic preserva-
tion element.
She indicated that a lot of publicity for the project was provided
by the local paper especially when older buildings were being demol-
ished. Her efforts were strongly suRported by the Planning Director
of Gilroy. Ms. McKinnis briefly described the survey work which was
done by 2 people and which she worked at full time for several months.
At the time her project began the local Historical Society has had
ceased to exist although that group had managed to preserve the old
City Hall. She became a member of the Historical Society and got
the membership involved in the process. She stressed it was impor-
tant to let people know what you are doing. This was accomplished
by walking/talking tours and through classes. The community's "old-
timers" put in a lot of time and effort.
Some of the information from the books generated by her study were
put into the 1980 General Plan for Gilroy. A committee was formed
including members from the City Council, Planning Commission, His-
torical Society and one at-large member. They met about once a
week when the Committee began. They reviewed and discussed their
General Plan and others to determine what changes were needed. When
the General Plan had been made supportive of historic preservation,
they began working on changes to the Zoning Ordinance.
Copies of Gilroy's historic ordinance were passed out to the Com-
mission. Ms. NcKinnis described the contents of the ordinance which
included a combining zone and several overlays with various restric-
tions. Commissioner Cameron briefly described Saratoga's ordinance
and how it worked.
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Ms. McKinnis then described the groundwork layed to get the General
Plan and zoning ordinance amendments that were needed. A town meeting
was conducted and brochures were passed out (samples of these were
passed around the Commission). At the meeting experts described
the advantages of historical preservation including tax advantages,
rehabilitation loans, etc. No one at these meetings expressed a
completely negative reaction. Part of the reason for the positive
response to historic preservation proposals was that the Historical
Society really got involved and used their network of contacts so
that friends described the ordinance to other friends to build
support.
Ms. ~cKinnis then described provisions of the ordinance that held
if someone was in a historic district and wanted to get out they
would have to go through a zone change and the environmental assess-
ment associated with that proposed change. The Historic District
was put on the zoning map at the same time it was updated to be in
conformance with the General Plan. The objections to the ordinance
were dealt with early to accomplish this.
Commissioner Heid stated that since Saratoga was a historic landmark,
a historic district could be created covering the whole town. He
indicated that he also had a map showing the location of the buildings
that were considered historic at the time the landmark designation was
applied for. These original buildings could form the basis for a his-
toric district boundary.
Ms. McKinnis stated that the last thing done was the designation of
specific sites and neighborhoods as historic resources. They focused
first on the procedures and contents of the ordinance which was easier
to do. They then looked at the areas it would apply to. When the
ordinance was first adopted they did not get bogged down in specifics
which would make it harder. They looked more at general things and
built agreement on those.
Commissioner Heid expressed the idea that a Historic District Overlay
might be necessary to support the City's Heritage Preservation Ordi-
nance. The Commission could have public hearings and establish the
district area for the Council, then proceed to specific buildings
where restrictions would be applied. Commissioner Cameron stated
that an overlay zone would have ordinance requirements which esta-
blish criteria as in Gilroy. These requirements would apply to all
buildings in the district. The designation of specific sites should
be done all at once.
Ms. ~cKinnis indicated that Gilroy did a lot of public relations work
and gave a lot of information to the City Council to build support.
They did not do a lot of background information on individual struc-
tures. Their process was the reverse of Saratoga's in that property
owners had to prove their structures were not historic before they
could make major alterations. She also indicated that they had
planned to do too much at their town meeting and that they needed
to reduce the number of speakers. People asked what the ordinance
was going to do for them so she suggests that the issue of tax in-
centives and costs be dealt with at a separate meeting.
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Commissioner Heid then asked how Saratoga can get to the same place
as Gilroy. Discussion then followed on the differences between our
ordinance and others. Strategy was also discussed. Commissioner
Held indicated he would bring in a list of buildings that existed
when Saratoga became a historic landmark. This would then be used
as the basis for a historic district boundary.
Input to the Village Master Plan, being considered by the Planning
Commission, was then discussed. The Commission decided to review
the General Plan at its next meeting to determine if there is suf-
ficient support for the ordinance.
The Commission thanked Ms. McKinnis for her time and input. The
Commission went over the things they had learned from the discussion
with Ns. McKinnis. It was suggested that the Commission go over some
draft ideas on strengthening the ordinance at the next meeting.
III. OTHER ITEMS
A. Discussion of the ordinance and the upcoming meeting with
the Historical Foundation overlapped. Commissioner NcArthur wanted
to explore how the Commission could help on the educational aspects
of getting support for the ordinance and Commission activities.
Commissioner Landsness suggested a walking tour brochure. Discussion
then followed on creating a network of support and how the Historical
Foundation might fit into this process (this was to be brought up at
the joint meeting).
Chairman McArthur indicated she would ask for volunteers at the meet-
ing to go door to door to help complete the City's inventory. Com-
missioner Held stated the Commission should play it be ear. Chairman
McArthur expressed a desire to create a Commission subcommittee to
work on the issue of education. Commissioner Cameron suggested that
when the inventory comes out, the Commission should try to generate
newspaper interest and perhaps use the inventory with walking tours.
Commissioner Voester suggested a town meeting for the people that
owned property on the inventory list to explain what it is about.
Chairman McArthur indicated that the education subcommittee of the
Commission should meet January 11, 1984. The commission set December
14, 1983 as their next meeting date.
Respect ful 1 y submit ted,
Secretary
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